Unclocked NEO-875P FIS2R reliability

First of all let me say hellow to the boards, Ive alwayse been a fan of MSI but from what I've read so far about the CORE-CENTER and BIOS problems i plan on leaving my system untouched till i hear better...
CLIFFNOTES-How is the reliability and performance of an unclocked NEO-875P FIS2R????

I'm running un-oc'd too, and I haven't had any problems. Smooth sailing with Bios 1.2. Was smooth before I flashed to 1.2, too. I've resisted flashing to 1.3 or 1.4, even though I'm tempted, because everything runs fine as is. Things aren't perfect (the very very very occasional crash occurs, and things you wouldn't expect to be wonky sometimes are, such as occasional DVD-ROM drive problems, speaker problems, network problems, or vidcard problems, butI don't think that these are on account of the mobo). Really, though, everything pretty much works as expected, looks reasonable in SiSoft Sandra (in terms of performance), and is more stable than my previous Win 98 SE/ASUS A7V installation. Only unfixable problem I've had is the software that MSI provided w/ the board is all deadly. It doesn't work at all. The utilities disc won't run, and programs installed from it (through Windows Explorer) have bad hang and crash problems. Otherwise, all is well.
Nevertheless, I CAN'T WAIT for the day that MSI supplies a stable BIOS that everybody loves, that is 100% proven to make the board do what it's advertised as being able to do. The same goes for their CoreCenter software. It doesn't work for me now, but I'd love for it to be able to.
Anyway, I expect to live w/ the board as is for a while. I'll drop in a Prescott CPU next year, stick w/ my Audigy 2 and All in Wonder cards and my 1 Gig of Corsair PC3200 LL DDR DRAM for a while, and I don't expect to have to upgrade otherwise for at least 3 years from now. Hopefully, this setup will keep me running the latest and greatest software with above-acceptable performance through then.

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Attention all Neo 875P FIS2R users!...Your opinion is needed!...

Hi...I recently purchased the Neo 875P FIS2R after reading some fantastic reviews on it. However, I was browsing the AnandTech forum last night and most of the replies in the topic were extremely negative towards the board and MSI...People sending them back etc. I have not built my new system yet with the Neo FIS2R so I was wondering what other people's opinions of this board are, how they are finding it's performance, stability etc before I build.
All input will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks from Colin.
P.S.- Overclocking for me is NOT a priority...stability I feel is most important to me.

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Originally posted by Danny
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MSI cut PAT off because of the problems that can occur while it is on with heavy overclocking.
If you are going to say something like this you should post a link to where it is. I have never seen MSI make any statements about cutting PAT off. If this is your guess say so, but don't quote it as fact unless you can prove it is true.
See this for someone else's guess:
"As far as I know, all i875 motherboards disable PAT after 210MHz.
It may be part of the Intel licensing agreement."
I didn't know. That is what I was I read on here.
I didn't know that all the mobos did. It is odd then because at 225FSB on my abit board, Sisoft Sandra and CPU-Z both report that PAT is still on. The same was not said with my MSI board. After 218 PAT was disabled and a took a loss in mem scores.
But don't get me wrong I recommend the MSI board to anyone except the extreme overclocker.
Sorry if I mislead you guys.

No sound in My NEO 875P FIS2R with OC

Hello i'm french :]
Excuse me for my english :D
I bought the MSI 875P neo 2 week ago and i tried to overclock my pentium 4 2,4 Ghz FSB 800 @ 3 Ghz. It's work fine but no sound ;( . I tried to reinstall the driver but a window appears with a red cross :D oooo error 8o
Please help me :(
Thank you
Bye

Lock your agp/pci bus at 66/33
read the faq here http://www.msi.com.tw/program/service/forum/index.php?threadid=21469&boardid=10&styleid=1
oglsmm

(neo 875p fis2r)ide3 prim & second showing not installed in bios (revised)

:wall:i have two 40 gig HDD installed to ide 3 on a 875p mobo they can be seen in post but are displayed as not installed in bios. I can set up an array that can be seen as a boot drive if raid is set or as individual boot drives if s-ata is set.
unable to get int "ctrl+I" after rebooting from forming an array
i have followed setup instructions from installation books but still problem persists
i wold like to stripe these two hard drives do i need to do anything for bios to see these drives
p4 2.8 with @pipe;ined technology)
i have 2x512(333) ddr dimm 1&3
nvidia fx 5700 ultra 128
2x40gig seagate hdd in ide 3
1x120gig hdd in ide1 secondry
2x cdrom in ide2

Hmm... what is your question actually?

Msi Neo 875p Fis2r Pcb 1.0 Bios 1.7

trying to overclock with this bios, got to 240 mhz FSB with 400 mhz RAM, system would boot but crash after playing UT2k4. Tried upping Core voltage to 1.700volts, system would not boot at all. I had to clear the CMOS. I'm now running at 205 mhz. Is there a problem with this bios that you can't make your core voltage 1.7? I hear 1.8,1.9 and 2.0 are not good for overclocking or running your comp in general.

Could be that the power supply to the RAM is also a bit scarce, try upping that to 2.7V -2.8V (depending on what your RAM can handle), and as Kingfisher said - post your system specs (or alternatively have it as a signature).

Anyone with a Neo 875P FISR (not FIS2R)

Does anyone here own a MSI Neo 875P FISR mobo? I have one, but get the feeling that it aint as good for OCing as the FIS2R. The BIOS does not have CPU:DRAM ratio setting. Any comments??
P IV 2.8c with HTT Enabled
MSI 875P Neo-FISR (BIOS ver 3.2)
512Mb x 2 Kingmax (MPXC22D-383) PC-3200 CL2.5184 pin DDR DIMMs Running in DUAL CHANNEL
ATI 9500 Pro 128 Mb DDR (AGP 8x / Fast Writes Enabled)
Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum
Pioneer 16x DVD ROM / Sony 52x CD-RW
80 Gb Seagate HDD 7200 RPM
Codegen 350Watt PSU

Neither did the FIS2R. Read P4 Neo Unofficial Guide for an explanation on how to set the ratios.

Neo 875P Onboard Sound Problem

I'm having problems getting surround sound to work on my MSI Neo 875P with my Logitech Z-640 speakers. It only works in Morrowind and the during the SoundMAX control panel tests. Not with media in Windows, and not in other games.
In other games it just seems like the output to the rear channels is really weak. If you put your ear to it you can hear it, but it's not working as it should.
If I plug my front speakers into the rear channel port on my mobo, and then put the rear speakers in the front channel port (that is, switch their places), the front ones are all quiet and the back speakers play loud.
Thus, it is not the speakers which are messed up, it's the output coming from my mobo. But it's configured to run in surround sound! And surround sound does work in Morrowind!
Any ideas?

I have a 865PE Neo2-FIS2R (MS-6728) with version 1.3 BIOS and I'm having the same problem. I get sound from the rear speakers only from the Speaker Test in the C-Media 3D Audio Configuration program.
All other audio output only comes through the front speakers. Winamp set to output to Direct Sound does not produce rear speaker sound either.
When doing the speaker test, there is also a crackle noise as it switches between speakers.
Speaker setting is 4CH; speakers are plugged into the on-board audio jacks; I've verified that everything is connected properly. The speakers work fine as they work in the Speaker Test (and they worked fine with my previous machine and audio card).
I've uninstalled and reinstalled the audio drivers, both from the CD and from the website, with no change.
Any suggestions? :-)
Thanks,

Dual Channel memory problems on Neo 875P

I am having considerable trouble getting the NEO 875P to work with dual channel DDR400 DIMMs. I have two Kingston KVR400X64C25 DDR400 256MB memory modules, each of which works correctly by itself. However, once I move one
of the modules to channel B, I cannot boot my operating system (currently Windows XP.) The problem also occurs in Windows 2000, which I also have on the system. I receive blue screen errors that indicate paging/memory problems. I have upgraded my BIOS to the latest version (1.3)* in the hope that it would solve my problems, but it has not. The POST screen detects that there is 512MB of memory working in Dual Channel mode, but even when it does get through the O/S booting process (rarely), it crashes within minutes. Putting just one of the chips in makes the system perfectly stable. If anyone has any information, please let me know!
Thanks,
Jim Keller
http://www.centerfuse.net
* My board was dead after trying to flash the 1.3 BIOS, but after about 10 attempts of using CTRL+HOME method to recover the BIOS, it finally worked with version 1.0. I then re-flashed with 1.3, and it rebooted fine. Are there any updates about all of the problems with v1.3 ?

>I can only answer based on what I've read on this forum
I figured as much, I was just wondering if you knew whether MSI themselves frequents the forums or answers emails sufficiently.
I've had an interesting development though. I stumbled upon Tom's Hardware Guide's article about 875P motherboards at http://www17.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030519/i875p-01.html
They mentioned that they needed to increase the memory voltage from 2.5 to 2.6 in the BIOS to get some memory modules to work. I did this, and for the first time, I am running in Dual channel DDR mode. However, the article also mentions that "the system does not run completely stably", so I guess I'll have to wait and see if it crashes again. However, I'm far enough beyond the XP splash screen to post this message, so I guess we're getting somewhere!
-Jim Keller
http://www.centerfuse.net

S-ATA Hard Drive on 865PE NEo-2 FIS2r M/B

I've recently bought several components (which I'll list below) and am having a bit of trouble connecting the HDD and configuring the BIOS to recognise it. I'm new to building computers, so please forgive my 'newbieness'.
The main components are:
M/B 865 Neo-2 FIS2R 800FSB
Processor P4 2.6 800 FSB
HDD Seagate 120Gb SATA 8Mb cache
Memory Corsair 256Mb XMS3200 x 2
Video MSI Ti4200 8x AGP
I have several questions, and I hope you're patient enough to read this and consider a reply.
1. There are 4 SATA connectors on the M/B. I am presuming that I should connect this HDD to SATA 1, but when I do, I cannot get the BIOS to detect it nor can I see the 2 cdrom drives I have on the secondary IDE channel. Furthermore, I get a "Fast Trak" error message telling me the BIOS was not saved. When I connect the HDD to SATA 3, then it is recognised, I get no error messages and I can access both cdroms, but I'm not convinced this is the optimal setup for my system.
2. How should I be setting up the BIOS with respect to SATA / PATA and RAID, if this SATA HDD is the only HDD in the system and the other 2 drives are IDE CDROM's? I want the HDD to be the boot drive (of course).
My preference is to set the HDD up to SATA 1 and be able to boot Win XP from it, without FastTrak errors and without "losing" access to the CDROM drives.
I hope this question made sense to someone and that someone's answer will make sense to me!!
Cheers
Darryl

Did you switched you operating mode in NATIVE mode?
I had the same problem and native mode solved it.
Karel

Neo 875P - Wheres me JUSB3 gone?:/

My query is pretty simple:) Where the hell is the JUSB3 socket? I have a JUSB2 socket and next to this is written JUSB3 but accompanying the writing is nothing but an empty space:/ Soooo whos stolen my extra usb port or am I just being stupid and its elsewhere on the board?

Hi
To: iyongski
Like WitchFinder, I also have the D-Bracket and two USB ports on the front of my case. I have a separate thick wire for each front USB port and each thick wire has four smaller wires with connectors marked:
USB Port 1: VCC1, Data -1, Data +1 and Gnd
USB Port 2: VCC2, Data -2, Data +2 and Gnd
If I use the D-Bracket and hook it up to the JUSB2 header, or I can connect my front ports up easily enough but that 8 wires and there is no wire for PIN 10 (USBOC). But if I connect my D-Bracket to JUSB2, I cannot also connect my two front USB connector wires to JUSB2.
To Assaf
I have the Neo 875P and it has 6 USB ports on the back panel, four under the mouse and keyboard ports and two right next to the LAN port. I.e. I have both LAN and USB ports together.
Regards

MSI Neo i875P FIS2R Vdd & Vtt Problems?!

I have been reading that other Intel 875 chipset Boards like ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe & Abit IC7-Max3 are suffering from Vdd & Vtt problems!!!
Does anyone know if this is the case with the MSI Neo i875P FIS2R boards aswell?
Did anyone follow this up?
Would be interested if this is the case & if anyone has done any mods to their RAM slots.
Thx

No they Dont, and it was only the First revisions of those other Manufacturers Boards That are Really Second Revision i875's, and it has Nothing to due with the INTEL (i875) Chipset, It had to do with a Batch of Bad Winbond Memory Voltage Regulating Chips, that Both ABIT and ASUS Used...MSI does NOT use either that Particular Winbond Chip, or the Same DDR-Power Architecture that MSI employs on their i875P...........Sean REILLY875

Early Chipset Initialization problem with K8T Neo 2 - FIS2R

This one has me stumped.
I went to install a new CPU fan earlier today and while I was installing the fan I had to remove my sound card and AGP card so I could screw the fan to the side of the heat sink.
I got all that done and went to start the computer back up and now I get a contineous high pitched sound while at the same time 3 beeps. The D bracket shows a green LED on 1 so this is the "early chipset initialization" problem.
What is causing this and why would this happen after a fan installation?
Specs
A64 3200+ Winchester
1.5 GB RAM (2x 512, 2x 256) DDR 400
MSI K8T Neo 2 - FIS2R
PNY GF 6800
Audigy 2 ZS Gamer
200GB IDE HDD
80 GB IDE HDD
DVD - R/RW
Win XP Pro w/ SP2

Okay after a bit of messing around with the problem I discovered what the problem was....
I didn't plug in the power to the video card
Yeah the 6800 uses needs more power from the PSU and I left that little rail unplugged. Maybe some other soul will find this useful in a time of need.

K8T Neo-FSR/ FIS2R BIos HT link questions

RIG#2 MSI K8T NEO-FSR/ FIS2R(MOBO)Bios v7.1WIN XP SP2,ATHLON 64 2800+LAPPED(OC'D@2100MHZ CURRENTLY MORE TO COME),LAPPED STOCK HEATSINK,VISIONTEK XTASY 9550 128MB DDR,SAMSUNG 512MB PC3200,CD-RW,CD PLAYER,IBM 80GB IDE HDD,OKIA 600W PSU,BROADWAY COMPUTER CASE WITH DUCTING THROUGH SIDE OF CASE HOOKED DIRECTLY TO STOCK THE HSF AND GHETTO A/C COOLING
I am trying to find out how to change the ht link in my bios. I know it is a dinosaur as far as boards go but I'm in a contest and just trying to play around with it. I don't have a setting named HT link like on my 939 board and I'm trying to find out if it is named something else in this particular bios. Can anyone help me out here? Thanx in advance for any reply's.
THOMAS

Hey thanx for the heads up on that bas but wanna see something funny
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=777990
Check out the HT on Cpu-z in the screenshot. I was thinking that cant be right but I double checked and it was I guess I got lucky with the HT being that high.
THOMAS

Problem with NEO 875P FISR2 BIOS v1.8

Hello,
I own a MSI NEO 8750 FISR2 mainboard and really like it
a lot. I just recently updated the BIOS to version 1.8
(which I obtained from MSI website). The updation went
on successfully. Windows seemed to be working fine. But
all of my 3D games became very slow. I tested the
performance under 3D Mark 2001 SE and the results had
been cut down by half! Here's the configuration of my PC:
Intel Pentium 4 - 2.4 GHz
MSI Mainboard NEO 875P FISR2
512 MB DDR - 266 MHz (single dimm)
MSI Ti4800SE-VTD8X Graphics Card
Western Digital 80.0 GB UATA Hard Drive
Creative SoundBlaster Live 5.1 Sound Card
Windows XP Service Pack 1
I re-flashed the BIOS back to version 1.7 and everything
became fast again!
I don't know the reason for this but surely the update
doesn't suit me. Can you tell me what is it that I'm
doing wrong and whether I should stick to the old
version.
Regards,
Kamran

I installed the Intel INF update both from the supplied CD and from the website. It doesn't indentify the Intel SATA controller. When I install the Intel Aplication Accelerator RAID Edition, it halts at the start of the setup and exits by displaying a message. I can't recall the message exactly, but it was something like "Chipset not supported ..." I have tried to set the mode to both Legacy and Native but still no results.
Do I need to connect a hard drive to the Intel SATA controller in order to get it detected in Windows? And while I was going through the manuals, I saw a setup menu for Intel SATA controller (similar to Promise controller) before the PC boots to the OS. It doesn't appear in my PC. The Promise menu appears and I can use the Promise controller without problems. At first I thought that either the Intel or the Promise controller can work at one time. So, I disabled the Promise controller. It was no use. It just seems to appear that the Intel controller is simply absent !
Wondering if the samething has happened to anyone else?

875p FIS2R Memory Question

I just bought the 875P FIS2R board, but haven't powered it up yet since I still haven't received the memory. I also got the P4 2.4 GHz 800 FSB CPU. The MSI web site directed me the the Kingston memory site that recommeneded the KVR400 series DDR memory with a CAS latency of 3, so that's what I bought. I noticed in the manual that the only settings for CL are 2, 2.5, and auto detect from the stick's NVM. My question is, will I be able to use this memory running with a FSB of 800 and a CL of 3? Will auto-detect actually adjust the CL to 3, or are the only options 2 or 2.5? I know I will take a performance hit, but I'm not concerned about that right now.

Djfuzz,
CAS Latency of 3 is settable in Manual Timings when Perfomance Mode is set to Slow (or via your obscure method!!!), but if you then boot Windows and check timings (with something like CPU-Z) you will see it is actually 2.5!!!!!
dRfELL,
Let's bloody well hope they fix it in a future BIOS release, 'cos my memory is rated at 500 MHz and cost over £500 ($800) and I can't even use it past 460 MHz because of this!!!
But in reality, we're already on BIOS rev. 1.9 and from what I can gather, it's been a known problem for quite some time - so don't hold your breath!!!

Unclocked NEO-875P FIS2R reliability

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