Uncompressed Capture Cards

I have a plan to purchase a G5 for video editing and other post production works. I want to edit my footage in Uncompressed Pal format and my final output is NTSC DVD. I need a Uncompressed capture card(PCI or PCI X). I know about 2 leading Uncompressed Capture cards i. e. Kona 2 from AJA and DeckLink Extreme from Blackmagic design. There is any other cards in the market? Please give me advice.

Yes, and you also need a PCIe SCSI or fibre channel card for your external drive array. ATTO announced the UL5D on 10/20, but I haven't heard when it will ship.
Even after that, we might face the same type of driver update problems we had right after the UL4D was first matched to the 1st generation G5s. It was extremely painful for a while until everyone got on the same page of the playbook.
Are there any other PCIe SCSI & FC HBAs that have been released already?

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BlackMagic Intensity Pro Capture Card & (3) 1TB Internal Hard Drives

Hello,
This is my first time using BM Intensity Pro. Prior to tonight all I used was FW400 & iMovie/iDVD.
I have now upgraded to Final Cut Studio with a BM Intensity Pro Capture Card and Three 1TB Hard Drives (7200 RPM with 32MB cache) - Striped as a RAID set to create ONE 2.7 TB HD for Video Storage.
I have a few questions that I would like some help with.
I would like to capture at the highest video quality possible.
I'm worried that Hard Drives wont be able to handle the capture speed or file size?
I ran the BM Disk Speed Test. I'm just not sure what all these numbers mean?
Can someone please explain to me what the following information is telling me?
Do the results mean that I'm good to go with uncompressed HDV via HDMI?
The first is my OEM Mac Hard Drive. The second is my 3TB RAID set.
Blackmagic Disk Speed Test Results
Date: 2009-06-07 22:10:23 -0400
Mac OS X Version: 10.5.7
Physical Memory: 2047 MB
QuickTime Version: 7.6.2
Read Speed: 62.5 MB/s
Write Speed: 60.9 MB/s
Blackmagic Disk Speed Test Results
Date: 2009-06-07 22:13:26 -0400
Mac OS X Version: 10.5.7
Physical Memory: 2047 MB
QuickTime Version: 7.6.2
Read Speed: 314.9 MB/s
Write Speed: 310.0 MB/s

About using the speed test:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/124/864289
I would invest in an external RAID controller.
You can find a variety of such from AMUG in RAID5/6 that will support higher sustained thruput.
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/reviews.html
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/articles/highpoint/4322/
http://www.barefeats.com/hard115.html
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/articles/highpoint/3522/
http://www.barefeats.com/hard101.html
Those should also give you a better feel for what to do with those numbers and what to look for.

Do I have to have a capture card to use FCP?

I'm considering laying out the dough to upgrade from FCE to FCP but I noticed that the apple site says I have to have a "support 3rd partycapture card". I'll admit I'm green on what that means.
I currently import all my video media directly from my sony z1u via firewire.
Does the firewire import negate the capture card requirement?
If not, can someone recommend the necessary capture card for a Mac Pro 2.66?
thanks in advance...
-James

No, you'll be fine with just standard FireWire, capturing HDV (of DV if your downconvert in the camera) from your Z1U.
If you were to use any other (more expensive) capture card, to maybe capture uncompressed HD from the component outputs of your Z1, the image quality won't be any better, as the image is compressed to HDV to be recorded on tape.

Recommendations for Video capture card

Been capturing video via firewire through a VX2000. Using it as a A/D converter.
I would like to install an internal capture card in a dual G4 running OS 10.4.8.
Suggestions?
Steve

OK Steve, first off no one is making PCI capture cards anymore...an there is no HD card made for PCI at all. PCI-X and PCIe only. Second, that computer cannot handle HD captured via a capture card. HDV, DVCPRO HD...yes (pushing it). XDCAM...maybe (pushing it). Uncompressed HD? Heck no.
Not only do you need the HD capture card, but you need a high speed RAID array..and there isn't one made that interfaces with PCI. You gotta get a new machine. The one you are on will handle SD only.
With the new machine, the cheapest option is the Decklink INTENSITY PRO. This has analog ins and outs, installs in the computer (PCIe only), and runs about $400. COmponent, s-video and composite and HDMI connections only. NO SDI or HD SDI...which are the better connections for high end work.
Then you need an HD monitor...which isn't cheap. And again, the RAID array...
But...all this is getting complicated. What format of HD are you intending to work with in the near future? HDV, or HDCAM? DVCPRO HD? XDCAM? Uncompressed HD? This determines everything.
Yes, video is expensive. HD even more so. DV is cheap...HDV CAN be cheap, but get expensive if you want to do it properly.
Shane

Capture from Betacam Deck to Mac Book Pro -- Capture Card?

Okay, mobile editors, now's your chance. I have a client that wants to be able to capture from a Betacam SP or SX deck directly into his Mac Book on location. Are there any 3rd party cards that have component/composite (a la a Kona card for a tower) that slots into a Mac Book Pro? or even a PCMCIA card for a Powerbook G4.
We realize the ioHD is coming out, as well as the AJA io which would work, but we are looking for something smaller that travels better.
My thanks for any insight.
dj

There aren't any capture cards that will serve that purpose.
The AJA IoLA will probably be your smallest bet, if you want to capture Uncompressed (which also raises the question, what drive will you be capturing your media to?). It's a pretty small unit. The Io is full rack width, but the IoLA and IoLD are half rack wide.
If you're capturing down to DV resolution, there are numerous capture devices that will convert any analog composite signal to DV resolution and send it to your computer via FW.
I'd personally use the AJA IoLA. Oh, and I do personally use the IoLA. Rock solid.

Need OPTIONS for capture cards for Beta SP

Hi all...I'm a FC newbie and looking to upgrade from an OLD M100 system to a FC system. I would like to hear what you all have to say about
1. The capture card for digitizing Beta SP
2. Which card would be best (price and proformance) for DVDs...now I mean which card will capture Beta SP with the best quality to be used for DVDs.
3. and which harddrives do you prefer.
thnx in advanced
mark

For working with BetaSP, price & performance-wise, the Aja IO La box is great. It connects via firewire, but allows capture in DV, DV50, 8- and 10-bit Uncompressed.
It has RS-422 control for your deck, and 4 channels of analog audio in & out.

HDMI capture card for my Power mac G5

I was wondering if anyone knew if there is a HDMI capture card that could be used in a non-intel G5? or capture via the ethernet port using a HDMI Ethernet extender? I would like to capture uncompress HD footage from my camera.
My system: 1.8 GHZ DP / PCI - x / 2GB 400 / 160GB / SD / G5200 / 56k
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

No, there is not. HDMI options on capture cards didn't arrive until after MacPros were released and G5s were discontinued. The only capture cards that work on G5's do not offer HDMI inputs. The Intensity series are PCIe only...AJA Kona line with HDMI are PCIe only....Matrox MXO2 line are PCIe and Express34 only. And your G5 has PCI-X slots.
The AJA Kona 2, Kona LH, Decklink HD cards...things you can only find second hand...do not offer HDMI inputs. You are on a machine that was discontinued 4 years ago, HDMI support was not invented yet.
Shane

Video capture cards, RT effects, render support

I'm looking into buying either a AJA Kona SD or Blackmagic Decklink Pro SD capture card. I'm primarily buying for RT and render support and want to know if anyone can verify the benefits.
I currently don't get much in the way of software-based RT effects support from FCP. It's probably because I'm still using nothing better than a 7,200rpm IDE drive for my media.
Blackmagic provides a list of FCP RT effects they support and mention some of their own. AJA doesn't mention which RT effects they support, just that they support some. What should I believe? I've read in the reviews that all this RT support is pretty limited once I get to a 2-track or 2-stream effect. Is this really true?
Both companies claim "render support" for FCP. (I use FCP 4.5). To what degree is this the case? Can I expect sizeable reductions in my rendering time? Will I only get this benefit if I'm editing in an uncompressed timeline? How about a DV timeline?
Dual 800 G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9) 1.5G RAM, GeForce2 AGP

Lets not leave Aurora out of the picture here. Their capture cards are arguably higher quality than Decklink, and on par or better than AJA. A little less known, but very easy and simple to use...http://www.auroravideosys.com/products/index.php
I use the PipePro Studio and it is a breeze.
Now...for the realtime effects. Nothing helps with this other than a faster processor. The capture cards do not give you more realtime effects. What they mean by realtime is that you get realtime effects with their codecs. So the normal effects you get in realtime, like cross dissolves and 3-way color correcting, the cards support those realtime effects for their capture codecs.
They do not increase the amount of effects that are realtime. That hasn't been supported since the Cinewave card way back at FCP version 3.
Shane

Capture Card/Deck Link

Hi All,
Currently I am setting up my Post Production outfit. As of now, I am using and Old G5 with Dual 2.7 GHZ PowerPC processor, with 3GB memory(although when i have a budget I plan to buy the new Mac Pro). Anyway as I was saying before till now, I use firewire to capture my footages, thus i lose quality(true or false?), anyway I want to buy a deck link or any capture card, or whatever capture device to maintain the quality of my footages. Thus what would you guys recommend? and what tape deck would you guys recommend?
Tnx again!!

I use firewire to capture my footages, thus i lose quality(true or false?)
FALSE. Firewire transfers are data transfers. Zero quality loss.
anyway I want to buy a deck link or any capture card, or whatever capture device to maintain the quality of my footages
Unneeded if you are capturing via firewire. But very necessary if you are outputting to any non-firewire formats, or if you want to color correct on an HD monitor (or uncompressed SD).
Thus what would you guys recommend?
Two options for capturing:
www.aja.com Kona series. Kona 3 and Kona LH...different capabilities. You have to look at what they both offer and determine for yourself it if is something you need.
www.decklink.com - Decklink series. Again, good cards. Cheaper than AJA, because they lack many hardware components. But still are very capable for many many tasks.
I have used and like both. What you get depends on what you need.
For output only, if you capture via firewire, then you can add the Matrox MXO. I have a review of it on the Creative Cow:
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/ross_shane/MXO.php
and what tape deck would you guys recommend?
What format of video will you be working with? That determines a lot. As does what format you'll be outputting to.
Shane

Does a capture card improve real time functions?

I am reading posts regarding capture cards and i figured for DV material, capture card may not be necessary as firewire is there. but does capture cards improve the effeciency of the machine /CPU , does it render faster and play more real time effects?
thanks
sameer

The Aurora is a Standard Definition card and the Decklink is an HD card. I don't have them both installed at the same time...I put in what I need. Right now I am working with HD so I have the decklink card in.
AJA I/O is a standard definition "solution." I say solution because it isn't a capture card per se, but rather an external box that captures SD signals (SDI, Component, Composite) and inputs them into FCP via a firewire connection to the computer. This allows it to be used on multiple machines easily. The Kona series are High Def cards that need to be installed in the PCI slots of your computer.
What is my workflow with the DSR-11? Probably the same as you. DV/NTSC Easy Setup, then connect it to the computer via firewire and capture. When I am done, I output back to tape. What else is there to do with this?
Codecs? DV, 8-bit uncompressed SD, DCPRO 50, DVCPRO HD. Depends on the project I am working on and how it was shot.
10-bit uncompressed DV? DV by nature is compressed 5:1 when it is recorded to tape. When you capture that via firewire from your DSR-11 deck, you are capturing it at the highest possible quality. It is simply a file transfer. Now, if you were delivering on DV then you don't need a capture card. But if you were, say, needing to deliver a digibeta master, or betasp, then you'd need a capture card to output to that format...uprezzing the DV footage to 8-bit uncompressed (better color space, beter codec for graphics and stils) and output. 10-bit is overkill for DV.
My workflow depends on the footage I am given and the format I need to master to. My HD workflow differs greatly from my DV workflow, which differs from my SD Uncompressed workflow. To go into detail of each would mean writing an article, and I am too busy editing to do that.
Shane

KONA LSe PCIe SD capture card.

Hello there...
Just wanted to pick your brains... I've just finished a long run of work and the boss wants to sort out the edit suite and see if we can improve overall performance etc...
One of the things that was recommended to him by another editor was to invest in a KONA LSe PCIe SD capture card... which sounds all very good but we only shoot on DVcam...
However, even though we won't capture any 10/8 bit uncompressed, am i right in thinking the card would be useful in handling effects etc, therefore reducing the strain/workload on the processors?
In a nutshell... is there any advantage to installing this card, even though we NEVER capture uncompressed media?
Thanks for your opinions.
J,

Increased performance? Render handling? RT effects? Not if you capture DV via firewire. You might get slight performance improvements with footage you captured with the card, but it will not enhance anything, really. Definately not firewire captures. The HD cards do some load bearing processing for HDV and DVCPRO HD, but nothing considerable.
If you capture, edit, and output DV, there is no reason to get this card.
Shane

Urgent: Unable to capture from TV Capture Card

Hello,
I'm Ashish Shukla. I'm writing an application in JMF 2.1.1b using J2SE 1.4.0 on Win32 platform on Intel Celeron 1 GHz processor which captures from the capture device. It works fine on Intel Create & Share CS110 Web Camera. But now, I'm try to capture from the TV Capture Card Pinnacle Studio PCTV TV Capture Card (Composite Video).
But JMF Registry is not able to detect the TV Capture Card (connected alone) & my PC hangs. But, when WebCamera is plugged in, JMF Registry detects it.
When Both WebCamera (USB port) & TV Capture Card are plugged in, then JMF Registry detects only Web Camera.
If anyone can help me resolve the problem. I'm very thankful.
Yours sincerley,
Ashish Shukla
Wah Java!!

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I'm using ezcap.tv 116 ezgamer capture card to record my PS3, this is on a windows laptop, Im then moving the recorded videos in mpg format over to my MacBook Pro to use IMovie to edit them to upload to youtube but it won't let me import them.

I'm using ezcap.tv 116 ezgamer capture card to record my PS3, this is on a windows laptop, Im then moving the recorded videos in mpg format over to my MacBook Pro to use IMovie to edit them so i can upload them to youtube but it won't let me import them, even after changeing them to MP4 format, it just comes up with the message: "No Importable Files None of the selected files or folders can be imported. Change the selection and try again."
Ive even tried opening in itunes and copying from thier but they wont open in Itunes, no message or anything they simple just dont open. its strange because it does open in quicktime player.
please if anyone has any ideas that can help me please let me know XD thanks.

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Plug-in for StarTech Video Capture Card

StarTech'website shows their ECHDCAP ExpressCard video capture card supports Adobe Premiere CS5 plug-in for editing. I talked to a Tech at StarTech and he said the card should work with Premiere Pro CS5 & CS6 but StarTech doesn't support it, and he didn't know where I can get the Premiere SC5 plug-in. Does anyone know what plug-in StarTech is referring to, and where I can get it?
If anyone is currently using the ECHDCAP capture card or the StarTech USB3HDCAP Capture Device, please let me know how you got it working with Premiere Pro.

Ann & Bill,
I probably should have given you more information. This application is different than what I usually use Premiere for.
One of my hobbies is shooting long range rifles at 1,000 yards. I'm trying to capture the point of impact on steel targets 500 to 1,000 yards away. I've attached my XA10 to my Swarovski spotting scope so I can see the impact. I've been transferring the video from the XA10 to my computer through the USB port, then importing the video into Premiere and adding it to the sequence. By the time I get all this done, then scrub the video to find the frame with the initial BANG, then count 41 frames forward for 870 yards, then scrub the video again to find the impact point, the wind and several other conditions have changed which affect my next shot. this makes for a long and tedious day.
The bottom line is... I'm trying to streamline my workflow so I can capture the video from my XA10 straight to a Premiere sequence, then start scrubbing the video to find the point of impact.
The reason I'm using Premiere is because none of my other programs allow me to scrub with audio.
I would prefer not to spend $600 for a Maxtor MX02 Mini and ExpressCard adapter; especially since it requires 110 volts and that's not available at the shooting range.
If you know of another way to do this, or can recommend an inexpensive program that will allow me to capture audio and video from my XA10 and scrub it with audio, I'd sure appreciate hearing about it.
Thank you,
Brian Scura...

What is the BEST cable connection from Canopus ADVC 300 to Black Magic Intensity Pro HDMI PCI Express Capture Card?

I must connect an ADVC 300 to a Black Magic Intensity Pro HDMI PCI Express Capture Card. For best quality, which cable should I use?
On the ADVC 300 there are outputs of firewire, S-VHS and RCA.
On BMPro it's a little confusing. On the breakout cable there are connectors that say:
-5 B-Y OUT
-4 Y OUT
-3-R-Y OUT
-7-R-Y IN
-8-Y IN
-9 B-Y IN
-15 AUDIO IN RIGHT
-10 AES/EBU OUT
-12 AUDIO LEFT OUT
-14 AUDIO LEFT OUT
-13 AUDIO RIGHT OUT
With the BMPro, there is also a separate, shorter cable. On one end it looks like S-VHS and on the other there are two connectors, one black and one blue.
On the actual BMPro Express card strip instead of using the breakout cable, there is HDMI IN (and HDMI OUT).
How should I connect this? Is there an adapter cable of FIREWIRE TO HDMI?
Any help is much appreciated.

Well, when I researched how best to digitize VHS (into Final Cut Pro 7), I learned two of the best devices to use are BMPro and Canopus ADVC 300. I’m using the ADVC 300 for the built-in time base corrector. I definitely want to use that to stabilize the video. I also read how well BMPro improves image quality. So, I thought to use the two together must produce outstanding quality (well, as good as VHS can be).
Perhaps I got confused into thinking I can use both. But the BMPro appears to have an S-VHS adapter.
I guess I’m wondering what is better quality:
Run the firewire from the Canopus ADVC 300 converter directly into the firewire port on the Mac Pro
Or, run an S-VHS cable from the Canopus ADVC 300 into the BMPro Capture card
(I should mention that I have purchased all these items and already have the BMPro Card installed so at this point it’s not a cost issue, but rather an issue of simply which works best?)

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