Uncompressed PCM 5.1 audio in Encore CS3?

Uncompressed PCM 5.1 audio is a fantastic part of the Blu-Ray spec... perfect quality audio, no transcoding and no need to buy a dolby licence.
For the life of me, I can't get my Encore CS3 project to work with uncompressed surround - only AC3 or stereo uncompressed PCM.
Anyone else tried this?
Cheers, Doug.

5.1 AC3 is supported by Encore.
Blu-ray compliant means that the discs will play on a Blu-ray player correctly...not that every available Blu-ray feature is offered by the authoring tool.

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Audio balance greatly different in Encore CS3 after encoding 5.1 master track in Premiere Pro CS3

Hello! I'm wondering if anyone can offer some advice for my DVD audio problem.
I have a Premiere Pro CS3 project with a 5.1 master track that appears to behave correctly judging by the meters when I play it in PP. It also sounds reasonable (in a mixed-down fashion, I guess) on my PC system's speakers (L,R,LFE), and all rebalancing and panning seems to work well. However, once I export the master track to Encore using PP's SurCode Dolby Digital codec, the resulting audio mix is totally off. Here's what I get: both front channels play mainly out of the right front and center speakers, and the rear channels play mainly out of the left front speaker. I've tried all different settings, but I can't seem to change this. Well I've read that Encore just sends the audio mix straight through (the DVD trancode status is "Don't transcode"), but when I build the DVD and play it on both of my 5.1 surround systems, the results are just as bad as what my desktop PC speakers were hinting at. [Actually all DVDs that Encore builds are UNSUPPORTED on one of my set-top DVD players and they're both Panasonic! So first, I first have to copy the DVD using Nero and then the copy is accepted by all. That seems to have no bearing on my audio dilemma but I thought I'd mention it. I would love to know what Nero is doing right that Encore is doing wrong!)
Anyway, here's some background: I began to notice this problem with the audio balancing whenever a .wav music source is imported into PP as a stereo source. [A side issue here - I don't seem to be able to explain - or control - how one .wav file gets imported as stereo while another is imported as 5.1!] Anyway, as one would expect, since my master track is 5.1, the stereo track is automatically set up with a rebalancing tray with the puck set in the middle. The meters show that the source is stereo and the sound has been rebalanced across the master track. If I drag the puck around, the master meters behave accordingly. Then I import my video (.avi video clip) and that sound is imported as a stereo track. For that track, I drag the puck to the rear. Again, the master meters respond correctly. So far so good. But when I export to Encore, the resulting audio mix so completely wrong it can't even be explained as a 5.1-to-stereo downmix situation. The sounds that were supposed to come out of the rear channels are in front left and center (and deafening), overpowering the music that is only coming out of front right. And the rear speakers are silent unless I turn on Pro-Logic on my amplifier, which just confuses the issue. I didn't bother to check LFE as things were bad enough.
Where I DO NOT have the problem is when the audio file is imported as a 5.1 source (although it is just a stereo CD track ripped using Sony CD Architect). In that case, there is no rebalancing tray and the track meter shows only the L and R channels active, as expected. Ditto for the master track. Now if I go ahead and send the music to a stereo submix track and let that rebalance to the master, I see all channels active. But that results in the problem above after exporting to Adobe Media Encoder using SurCode and then importing the audio into Encore. If I don't remix to 5.1, the audio on the DVD is OK. But I would like to have the music come out of all speakers when there isn't a video soundtrack as there are many still pictures in the presentation.
So the question is, if I can rebalance and pan channels in PP CS3, why are the results coming out all wrong in Encore using SurCode? And how can I hear my project on DVD the same way I mixed in PP?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Doug Herbst
Holmdel NJ

Problem solved everyone!!!
Rebecca of Adobe support helped me identify the root cause: project was originally set up as standard (2-channel) and although it had evolved to a 5.1 project over time, it could never grow up to be anything other than a standard audio project. After you set up the new project, the setting that controls your audio is buried in the project somewhere. Changing your project settings to set up new 5.1 audio tracks for new timelines does NOT make the project 5.1! The real audio identity attribute set at birth is not alterable OR EVEN VISIBLE (even as a grayed-out project setting) although PP will allow you to set up and mix 5.1 audio tracks at will. So you may think you're working on a 5.1 project now, but you're only fooling yourself and PP goes right along with it. Even the .ac3 files you create via export are 5.1! But dare to build your DVD in Encore and all of your timelines are transcoded back to 2.0 instantly. Resistance is futile.
A new feature in PP CS4 will allow you to view, and even CHANGE, your project's audio identify from standard to 5.1. How sweet!
Well, I've devised a way to dig out myself out of this deep hole in CS3 and it worked, but I can't promise that it will work for everyone. (This assumes you own the Dolby Digital 5.1 codec from Minnetonka.)
1. Create a new Premiere Pro project as 5.1 audio from the get-go.
2. Import your suspected 2.0 project into this new 5.1 project and click each sequence to flesh out the timeline.
3. Re-export all audio as elemental streams using Adobe Media Encoder. Make sure you export the audio component of each timeline as Dolby Digital 5.1 and exactly - and I mean EXACTLY - the same way. To deviate the audio settings for each timeline is to ask for trouble, so I recommend setting up an audio pre-set that you can just click when you need it.
4. Create a new Encore project and import all original video assets and your new replaced and, hopefully, 5.1 audio assets into it.
5. In Encore, create a separate timeline for each pair of assets (.m2v and .ac3 for example). DO NOT ATTEMPT TO PLACE MULTIPLE PAIRS OF ASSETS ON THE SAME TIMELINE! For some unexplained reason, the build process will transcode the audio back to 2.0, and if you continue pack new 5.1 audio assets on the same timeline, you will get an error message "an input contract violation has occurred" because you now have 2.0 and 5.1 assets on the same timeline, even though you really don't know that and didn't ask for that to happen anyway. (Thanks to Bill Hunt who mentioned his habit of keeping the asset pairs on separate timelines in another thread - that suggestion was absolutely essential to the solution here.)
6. In Encore, check to make sure that all of your original video sychs up correctly with the new, true 5.1 audio. Link the end actions of each timeline with the next timeline to play in the correct sequence. Check your project for orphan timelines and other errors. Then, before you start building menus and start getting fancy, build a DVD and make sure it plays as 5.1 on your system.
Tip #1: while you're re-exporting and replacing the audio files, don't have Encore running. I've seen it gracefully and automatically re-import the replaced file once the export is done, but I have also seen it choke with the terribly descriptive "Encore has encountered a problem" message upon discovered the asset is not available while it is being replaced. Encore then continues to mark the asset as offline.
Tip #2: when re-exporting and replacing files, always select audio and video separately. For some reason, Encore will allow you to replace an .ac3 file when you perform an elemental audio export, but when you try to combine video and audio and both files exist, Encore will prompt you to replace the video, but immediately abort with an error that it cannot replace the .ac3 file, thus forcing you to delete the .ac3 component manually before trying again.
Doug

Import avi video with uncompressed PCM audio

I am unable to import into iMovie 10 or FCP X the audio portion of avi videos with uncompressed PCM audio. I just get the video and silence. They imported fine into previous versions of iMovie. Of course, I can use conversion programs to produce versions that import, but I have hundreds of hours of video in this format, so I would prefer not to have to do that. Is there a plug-in that would solve the problem?

Thank you for that info.
For video, the codec is MPEG-4 Video (XVID) and for audio it says MPEG Audio Layer 1/2/3 (mpga).
There are two issues with that file:
The first is the Xvid CODEC (not meant for editing), and then the MPEG Audio/MPGA. I would convert that file, to something that is more editable.
Good luck,
Hunt

Encore CS3 - Hangs and import problems with menus and avi footage with audio tracks present.

I'm trying to import some footage files in .avi format into Encore CS3 and am having several problems.
In what follows when I say "crash" I mean Encore quits with a standard Windows error. When I say "hang" I mean Encore does not quit but rather becomes an unresponsive process that must be killed manually using Windows Task Manager.
My System:
WinXP Pro SP2
2.93 GHz Intel Celeron CPU - single core
Intel PERL mobo
3GB 400MHz RAM
NVidia 7800GS video
I mention these specs however I am not experiencing any hardware
related bugs or issues (like out of memory or video driver crashes
etc) when using any CS3 app.
The footage files (as reported by GSpot) and problems I am seeing. In all cases GSpot reports that I have the appropriate codec installed:
footage1.avi - Dx50 XVid 1.0.3, Dolby AC3 48kHz 192kb/s, 716834 KB
Attempting to import as timeline causes Encore CS3 to hang.
Importing as an Asset allows it to import but when I try to click
on it in the project windown to add it to a new empty timeline,
Encore hangs. It plays fine in Windows Media Player.
footage2.avi - Dx50 XVid 1.0.3, MPEG-1 Layer 3 48kHz 128kb/s, 718302 KB
Imports fine as either a timeline or asset but no audio track comes
with it, even though there is an audio track in the footage. It plays
fine in Windows Media Player. Video imports perfectly, just no audio.
footage3.avi - Dx50 XVid 1.0.3, MPEG1-Layer3 48kHz 112kb/s, 717606 KB
Imports fine as either a timeline or asset but no audio track comes
with it, even though there is an audio track in the footage. It plays
fine in Windows Media Player. Video imports perfectly, just no
audio. I tried converting this one using AVS to both MPEG3 and DivX,
each using MPEG1-Layer3 44kHz 192kb/s audio, and got the same issue
upon importing into Encore CS3. I also loaded it into Camtasia
Studio and it looked fine over there. The audio was present and I
was able to export it as a .WAV file. When I tried looking at the
file in Soundbooth CS3, there was no audio track or, more
accurately, the audio track was a flat line.
By way of comparison these are importing perfectly:
footage4.avi - XVID XviD 1.1.0 Beta2, MPEG1-Layer3 48kHz 189kb/s Two mono
channels LAME3.96r, 717436 KB.
footage5.avi - XVID XviD 1.1.0 Final, Dolby AC3 48kHz 448kb/s Six
channels (3/2 .1), 716418 KB.
footage6.avi - XVID XviD 1.1.0 Final, Dolby AC3 48kHz 448kb/s Six
channels (3/2 .1), 716418 KB.
footage7.avi - XVID XviD 1.0.3, Dolby AC3 48kHz 448kb/s 6 channels
(3/2 .1), 717502 KB
footage8.avi - XVID XviD 1.0.3, Dolby AC3 48kHz 448kb/s 6 channels
(3/2 .1), 717180 KB
footage9.avi - XVID XviD 1.1.2 Final, Dolby AC3 48kHz 448kb/s 6 channels
(3/2 .1), 2291904 KB
Although this one imported & transcoded correctly, when I went to
build it to a DVD image file I got some strange errors during the
"planning video" stage that prevented the process from completing.
Unfortunately I neglected to write down the error message I recieved
which read like quite nonsensical babble to me, and I have since
deleted the project folder. I remember it was not a memory or
display related error and it included a timestamp where the error
was happening. I played the footage in the preview panel thru the
identified timestamp but it previewed perfectly without even a
jitter in either the video or audio. Took forever to transcode so I
doubt I'll be doing this one again anytime soon.
Another issue I am having is with the motion menus. I burned a DVD and it does not load correctly in one of my DVD players (a Sony rdr-gx330 recorder/player). It appears to take extra time to recognize the disk, the startup (first-play) menu does not show automatically, and I must press the Main Menu button on the

Another issue I am having is with the motion menus. I burned a DVD and it does not load correctly in one of my DVD players (a Sony rdr-gx330 recorder/player). It appears to take extra time to recognize the disk, the startup (first-play) menu does not show automatically, and I must press the Main Menu button on the remote control to make it appear. Other than that it seems to play ok in that player. Also tested it in 2 other DVD players (a Panasonic and Zenith) and it worked just fine like it's supposed to in them. Also plays perfectly in my computer's DVD player/burner using Windows Media Player v10. I tried burning to Memorex +RW single-layer single-sided disks at 6, 7, & 8Mbps project settings but got the exact same result every time.
Encore CS3 crashes fairly often during authoring, particularly during imports, and when I go to edit things like calling up a timeline in the timeline panel, dragging footage into an existing timeline, or changing button links in a menu etc.. I have also experienced seemingly random hangs even more often, probably 5 or 6 times as often as a crash. Saving the project after every little change I make, then closing and restarting Encore allows me to make progress albeit at a significantly reduced workflow rate. Accessing Photoshop from Encore appears to be working flawlessly so far aside from the slow load times. Encore hangs sometimes during video transcoding, repeat the process and it works ok. If I try to import a menu from the library after importing my footage files, Encore hangs trying to import it either at the 50% mark or the 99% mark (it varies even with the same exact menu selected from the library). If I import the menu first and the footage after, then no problems. Also trying to render motion menus after importing footage causes Encore to hang, render before footage import and everything works ok. Interestingly enough, previewing my project in Encore's monitor or preview panels works perfectly even in High quality mode -- in fact it operates quite smoothly in comparison to other apps I have tried. Although those footage files that had missing audio tracks on import obviously played silently, I have yet to experience a hang or crash during a preview or when scrubbing through a timeline in the monitor panel.
The last problem I've seen is with the project cache files. It doesn't always get rid of cache files when stuff is deleted from the project. I was working on one project and surprisingly ran out of disk space. When I tracked it down I found that there were some two dozen copies of a footage file I had repeatedly imported and deleted from the project still sitting in the cache folder. The file was an avi about 2GB so it was taking up some 40 GB of disk space for stuff that was no longer in the project. I tried shutting down Encore and manually deleting all the cache files, and that worked for most of them, but there was one 2GB file that kept reappearing in the cache folder even though it was no longer in the project. The XML file in the cache folder still had references to it in there so I can only assume that was the reason it kept showing up. I eventually had to delete and totally recreate the project from scratch to regain my lost disk space. This included having to sit thru a 6 hour long transcoding session which pissed me off to no end.
Encore CS3 appears on the surface to be a very powerful, feature rich, and approachable app with a simple easy to use interface, but it is awfully bugged in just about every area I have explored and still needs lots and lots of work for it to be really useful. Frankly for me it is pretty damn annoying that I have invested so much money in this suite only to find several of the apps in it (Encore & Premiere in particular) behaving this poorly. In my opinion every single app in the suite exhibits lousy performance whenever you must do anything at all involving the disk from the time you click to start it up until the time you click to close it down. Several of them are just as seriously bugged as Encore too, and being a long time Photoshop v5.5 user I expected much more from Adobe. Even Photoshop is two or three times as slow now (e.g. it takes about 20-30 seconds to simply create an empty 500x500 pixel image file and almost a full minute to load a 30x60 pixel single-layer gif). So far I have attempted to create 6 DVDs using Encore and after 3 weeks of effort have only succeeded in getting one of them onto a final disk -- and that one is kinda limping to work correctly in my DVD player. Three of those projects became so corrupted while working on them that I had to delete them completely and recreate them from scratch, only to find that I still couldn't get them to completion for one reason or another. Seriously disappointing.

ADOBE ENCORE CS3 Multiple Timeline AUDIO issue

Hello All,
I have ADOBE Encore CS3 project setup and i have the following assets in the project.
1. Timeline1.
2. Timeline2.
3. Main Menu
4. Sub Menu or Chapter Menu
5. Audio for Main Menu (MP3)
6. Audio for Sub Menu (MP3)
Setup:
1. Main Menu contains the links to Timeline1, Timeline2 and Submenu. And Main Menu has been selected as Start of Play screen.
2. SubMenu has Chapters linked to Chapters on Timeline 1, Timeline 2.
3. End of Action is set on both the Timelines. And the End of Action being set to go back to Main Menu on both the timelines.
The Problem is:
In the preview mode:
1. The Main Menu display with the audio. When the link to Timeline1 Video is selected, Timeline1 Video is played and Audio is heard. No Issues here.
2. End of Action is clicked on the Timeline1, and it comes back to the Main Menu. No Issues here.
3. Timeline2 is selected Video is displayed and audio is heard. No issues here.
4. End of Action is clicked on Timeline2 and the control comes back to Main Menu. No Issues here.
5. Now I select Timeline1 Video again from Main Menu, the issue is, TIMELINE1 VIDEO is played, but NO AUDIO is heard. This happens always whenver i come back from Timeline2 to Timeline1 either from Chapters Menu or Main Menu.
Could you please tell me whether it is a ENCORE issue or is it something related to my authoring.
Please Advise,
Venky

What happens if you actually create a disc instead of using preview?
Try to an RW disc, and please check this.
Remember that preview mode is not an actual multiplex of the final VOB filesthat compiling the disc will create, and as such can be a little wobbly whereas a real disc will be properly multiplexed together.
Also - just to humour me - please do not use MP3 audio, as you are forcing on-the-fly sample rate conversion which is not a good idea.

No audio device in Encore CS3 - PPro works fine...???

I can't get any audio out of Encore CS3 - when I go to Edit/Preferences/Audio/Audio Output device it says "No Audio Device" under the device name. But Premiere Pro CS3 works fine with the driver for my sound hardware (via the ASIO driver for my RME Fireface 800). All other Windows apps work fine with the audio, as well (e.g. Quicktime, WMP, etc.). I'm using Win XP Pro w/ SP2.
How do I choose an audio output device in Encore?
Thanks,
rgames

Hi Neil,
I think I have the WDM drivers - the set I'm using is the latest that I see on the RME site (version 2.82 dated 12/6/07). When I check under the "About" tab in the Fireface settings it says "Windows MME, WDM, GSIF 2.0 and ASIO 2.0".
In Encore, all the inputs show up. But the only option under outputs is "No Audio Device".
Thanks,
rgames

When does Adobe Encore CS3 support DTS-HD audio

When does Adobe Encore CS3 support DTS-HD audio?
Today I have tried to make a Blu-ray disc project with a 5.1 DTS-HD (192 kHz)audio track, but the DTS-HD audio track was much longer in the timeline than the videotrack! while the DTS-HD was encoded properly and was excactly the same length then the videotrack,
I think DTS-HD is still not supported by Adobe CS3....when will there be an update to solve this?

Okay - bug confirmed here.
DTS-HD MAS is not being correctly parsed by CS3.
I tried this using a 24-48 5.1 DTS-HD MAS file, and a file lasting around 20 minutes came in at over 4 hours in CS3.
Admittedly, I used the Blu Ray + HD DVD Primary profile.
So, I tried again using a 4.18 duration 5.1 mix at 24/48 resolution, using the pure Blu Ray profile.
When imported into Encore CS3, this came out at an apparent 1 hour 6 min file. Clearly, something is wrong here.
Further - it would appear that despite it being possible to import the stream, DTS-HD is simply not supported at all - you have to enable the "All Files" option to get the import dialogue to even see the file.
Yet again, we see Audio as the poor relation in a video suite.
Maarten
Best file a feature request for DTS-HD support.
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
Same form should also be used for the Bug Report.
If enough people ask for this, it may get implemented - and as Adobe are concentrating on Flash & Blu Ray these days, you may even get lucky.

Audio in Premier but not Encore (CS3)

I have the same material in avi, mpeg2 & wav, both play clearly in Premierc CS3, but nothing I load, even just a music track will play in Encore CS3. I'm using M-Audio and have reset the Preferences, tried everying I know how to try and cannot get audio to work. I have dual mointors and have both Premiere and Encore open, plays fine on Premiere. Shut down Premiere and still no audio.
Very confusing and frustrating. Hope for some advice.
Jack

Have you checked that the Encore Audo Output preferences are mapped onto an active, functioning audio device?

Audio cuts off in Encore CS3

Can anyone help me figure this out:
I imported an avi file into Encore CS3 as a timeline and created a continuous loop. When I play the DVD about half way through the audio just cuts off. I check the avi file and it's fine so I tried using Encore 1.5, and it burned just fine, the audio did not cut off. I tried a full re install and it still did the same thing. Any suggestions would help, thanks.

>DV type 1 with audio at 41k stero
Instead of 44.1KHz the audio should be 48KHz. And it would be safer to use a type 2 instead of a type 1 DV AVI format. If the Newtek Toaster can't write type 2 files you could use
DVdate
(free for personal use) to convert from 1 to 2.

I need help importing Videos in Encore CS3 (running on a Mac)

I want to make a DVD with Encore CS3 (running on a Mac).
I've never used Encore before.
I want to import movie files as Assets.
The only files I've had any luck importing are .mov files (exported by Quicktime Pro).
The movies I want to import are .AVI and .MP4 files.
When I import .AVI files I receive an error message saying;
'The Software that's used to decode the media is not available on this system. Installing the correct decoders for the files you are working with may help to correct the problem.'
When I import .MP4 files I don't get any error massages but encore recognizes each file as an audio file (Type: Audio File).
When I drag the .MP4 files into the timeline and view them in the monitor I receive sound but not picture.
It seems to me like I'm missing an important codec but I don't have a clue what to do.
Please reply ASAP I need to make a DVD for my Dad.

Encore likes to work with DVD-compliant files, like DV-AVI, MPG2 (transcoded to DVD specs), PCM-WAV files and the like. MOV files are usually handled pretty well too, as you have seen.
Your AVIs are probably DivX encoded, or similar, and you'll need to install the DivX CODEC (free for the PC, but have no clue about the MAC). Those are also heavily compressed files, and when you transcode before burning the DVD, they'll be re-compressed more. The quality might suffice, but they will not look good.
I do not know file format conversion programs for the MAC, but there are a ton of freeware, shareware and full-commercial ones available. DigitalMediaConverter (for PC) is ~US$40 and works well with a lot of different files in different schemes, both Audio & Video. You still need the proper CODECs on your machine to decode and then the proper CODECs to encode during the conversion. It might take some Googling, but you should be able to find both the file conversion programs and the necessary CODECs on the Web.
On PC, I use a little freeware program, G-Spot, to tell me all the details of any problem file. It might be available for MAC, but I do not know. It won't convert, or fix your files, or your system, but will tell you almost anything you'll need to know, especially the CODEC used and if your system has that one installed.
Good luck, and sorry that I know nothing of the software available for the MAC.
Hunt

Internal Software error PGC for encore CS3 !!! solved !!!

Almost everybody here knows the next error:
PGC "timeline name" has an error at xx:xx:xx:xy internal software error : %0, line timeline name - PGCINFO: name= timeline name, ref=BPGC, time=xx:xx:xx:xy
Where the y in time stands for the length of the timeline minus 2 frames. The BPGC error can also be FPGC or DPGC dependant on how many menu's there are in the project.
It kept me awake for weeks and after reading this forum several times and comparing encore CS3 with encore 2.0 filenames I found the solution.
This Error is a bug in encore witch has nothing to do with blank filename spots and sonic coding or codecs or planning your workflow with a pencil but pure with the combination Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 and Encore CS3.
This is what generates the problem:
In Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 you build project with video, sound and chapters. Then you export the project via the Media Encoder not Multplexed.
Premiere CS3 then creates the following files:
filename.M2V (video file mpg)
filename.AC3 (audio file ac3)
filename.M2V.XMPSES (an adobe file with preview info and chapter pointers)
filname.XMP (??)
It is the .M2V.XMPSES file witch creates the PGC error. If you use the MULTIPLEX DVD option then ADOBE will not create the .M2V.XMPSES file so there will not be an error. This trick mentioned by ADOBE and many others is just to go around the bug instead of solving it. Also with multiplex you have just one sound track. I use two sound tracks like 5.1 and a 2.0 track witch you can choose in a menu.
Some people say it is the blank spots. Also not true. They have probably just erased the blank spots of the M2V file and forgot the .M2V.XMPSES file.
When you just delete the .M2V.XMPSES file and then open the M2V and AC3 file in Encore as a new asset, make a timeline and menu's and the project will built and burn. Only if you delete this .M2V.XMPSES file Encore takes a longer time to import the M2V file and will be without the chapter points.
Almost everything else will work like menu with sound and even a movie background (use M2V files). Only the motion buttons in a menu still wont work unless you use a black background !?!. Haven't figured this out yet. Only solution for this is use Encore 2.0. In this older version also the motion buttons will work without error's (everything else also so why buy CS3??)
Here is what you must do create a DVD without errors:
-Create a project in Premiere Pro, even with chapters.
-Write down all chapter points (minutes:seconds:frames)
-Create two new unique maps in explorer for example D:DVD1 and D:DVD2
-Export in Premiere with Media Encoder without the Multiplex:DVD but with NON to the D:DVD1 map
-Copy from D:DVD1 only the M2V and AC3 files to D:DVD2
-Start up Encore DVD CS3 or 2.0
-Create a new unique project in Encore for example "DVD" and save this in the map D:DVD2\
-Then use Save-as (under file) and pinpoint to D:DVD2\dvd to be sure that all Encore's files are placed in this folder.
-Select M2V file and make new timeline.
-Make chapter points (you wrote down the points, did you?)
-Create menu's, even with sound (AC3) and movie background (M2V)
-Then render project if you have used a video for menu background
-Finally Built and burnnnnnn!!
-If you like to use motion buttons in a menu then use Encore 2.0
I have double checked my work flow and it really works. I have built a project and burned with success Then I deleted the timeline and the M2V file. Copied the .M2V.XMPSES file in the used folder. Re loaded the M2V file in encore (this time much faster! and with chapter points). Tried to built and burn and back was the error. Also this happened in in Encore 2.0!!
Hope that this will solve the PGC error once and for all !!!
Marcel W
system:
acer aspire AMD 64 3800+
2 GB
250 GB hard drive for system
750 GB hard drive for movie
software Adobe Encore 3.0.1.008, Premiere PRO 3.2.0, Photoshop CS3 10.0, All upgraded
NERO 7
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> Where the y in time stands for the length of the timeline minus 2 frames.
This can actually vary, and so far at least, I don't think we've seen a pattern as to type of pgc error based on how many frames from the end it reports.
> The BPGC error can also be FPGC or DPGC dependant on how many menu's there are in the project.
Number of menus is not relevant; the iteration of the first letter is more related to subsequent occurrences of the error. In my current tests it did not always update; they may have been too similar.
> This is what generates the problem...
Well, the problem does not occur every time you do what you describe, any more than it occurs every time spaces are left in the file names. What you have is, as some other suggestions, a workaround. Thats not bad, and I wonder if you are onto something as to what is contributing to the problem.
So, on to the interesting part whether the xmpses file, or at least what Encore is doing with it, is contributing something. I took an old test project that throws the PGC error and did some experiments.
Background. I am a user who does get the pgc errors regularly, but not always. Creative Suite Production Premium, with PPro CS3 3.2.0 (374) and Encore 3.0.1.008. Pentium 4 2.8GHz 2G RAM, XP SP3, Multiple drives, Nvidia GEforce4 MX440 i.e. an older system. I have lots of stuff loaded and running, including virus protection and firewall, so there are any number of potential conflicts. But I get no crashes, and only one problem other than the pgc. (PPro and Encore monitor windows do this diagonal thing I suspect the display card, but the drivers are up to date. Maxing and then back to fit fixes it.)
If you want to attempt to replicate my studies, here is a link to my problem clip and the first Encore project I describe.
http://www.videoandcomputer.com/test/pgc_test.htm
This project involves a very short AVI export from PPro CS3 - just over 8 seconds - called pgcbad_clip1.avi. Just to answer any question, the source is dv camera capture, and the source and avi export I use are dv avi type 2. There were no effects added on the timeline.
Test 1: Create a project in Encore CS3. Use the sunset menu and delete all the buttons except "play all." Import the avi as a timeline. Set the timeline end action as "return to last menu" and set the button link to the timeline. Auto transcode. (Project settings are 8mbps max and a3c.) Check project shows okay; there is never a problem with that. Build to a DVD folder in a new folder. This project throws the pgc error.
Test 2: Now create a new Encore project in a new folder. Use the same process, except import as timeline the m2v and a3c files from the first run. (I.e. if the clip is pgcbad_clip1.avi, in the test1 project folders, there is a folder called pgcbad_clip1.avi that has 6 files.) Note that in the folder they are imported from is an xmpses file from the first project's encore transcode. The build again fails with the pgc error - same frame, etc, but I really think the frame number doesn't matter.
Test 3: Now create another new Encore project in a new folder. Use same process, but before importing the m2v and a3c as timeline, delete the xmpses file. Drumroll...... Build succeeds!
Go figure.
This is not the repeatable bug option weve been looking for, but based on a clip that always fails, it does demonstrate the odd event of deleting the xmpses file as a workaround. I wonder if that will give adobe something to work with.
Can anyone else get my clip to work/not work in a straight project?
Test 4: Just to answer the question since the avi file fails here, will the elemental option succeed? I exported elemental m2v and wav from PPro, used the same project process, and transcoded the wav. That build also works! I have seen this work both ways. I have had projects where the elemental failed, and an avi export worked. I do believe the elemental options work more consistently. But my project that I completed yesterday used all avi exports, animated buttons in the submenu, - no pgc error.

Uncompressed 23.976 progressive avi and Encore encoding looks like crap!

Since i'm getting an "internal software error" when I try to burn a DVD from an m2v/wav I export out of After Effects; i've now exported an uncompressed AVI so I can let Encore encode to hopefully fix this problem.
So this 1.54gb AVI is 720x480, 16:9, 23.976fps, PROGRESSIVE.
When I import it into Encore and throw it on the timeline, it looks, and plays beautifully. (i've got a mediavault raid) :-D
I then go into the transcode settings and set it to this:
23.976 [fps], Progressive, Quality 5.0
192 [kbps] 48kHz, Dolby Digital
VBR, 2Pass, Min 1.50, Target 7.00, Max 9.00 [Mbps]
After a quick encode (Dual- Dual Core Xenon), I play back the video, and it has a pulse. It jitters at a regular rate, bump..bump..bump..bump, the text jumps as if its jumping fields. It is overall just horrible, nasty, etc.
So i'm wondering if the MainConcept encoder that Encore is equipped with is just garbage, or i'm doing something wrong. I'm (this close) to going and buying Media Cleaner, or some other aftermarket encodr.
I've got a job to do, and I hate having to trick the software, or change my workflow to get it to work.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

We'll i've tried both and have not come up with any luck. I've now tried TMPENC, and its pumping out some GREAT looking m2v's. Right now I have to get the settings down, so I dont get an overstream error.
Also, I've noticed that it doesnt mind that its a seperate audio/video stream as it did with my after effects exported mpeg2-dvd files.
I'll keep you posted on my success (lets hope :) )

PGC error when burning in Encore CS3 ... help

I've looked and can not find any one else with exactly this problem. I recently upgraded to Adobe Creative Suite 3 and can not get a DVD to burn. The project checks fine, the files transcode without difficulty but during the burning process, I very quickly get a PGC "file name" error.
I have a Sony Pentium 4, 2 GHz, with 1.21 G of RAM, and plenty (30 G) free on my hard drive. I have a 16X Memorex DVD burner which is probably 6 months old, but up until now has worked great. I've tried several different brands of DVD-R media and same problem.
I'd describe myself as an advanced amateur at video making. I taught myself on Nova's Video Explosion and burned 100's of dvd's on the Sonic's My DVD program over the past 5 years. Actually that system worked well, but I'd outgrown it. I downloaded Encore 2.0 free 30 day trial and loved it. I'd import (uncompressed) avi files that I'd created in other programs (mostly Video Explosion, but also Movie Shaker, and Windows Movie Maker), create menus in PS CS2 and my DVD's burned quickly and without errors at all. When my 30 days expired, I found they no longer offered 2.0 and I decided to spend the big bucks at got Creative Suite 3 really solely for Encore.
I've now spent 3 days trying all kinds of different things, many different files from different sources and I always get the same error message of "PGC "file name" has an error at "time" internal software error %0, line "file name:, time 00:"time", ref= BPGC.
I did read some messages on here about uncompressed avi vs. compressed avi. I did find that I was using uncompressed avi, but when I used Adobe premiere and rendered as MPEG 2 ( I believe), I got the same error. The only success (?) I had was when I rendered a file as a .MOV. It did burn without the dreaded error message, but the quality was extremely poor and jumpy.
Any ideas? I've got a project due in a couple of days and at present I've got files that I can't get to DVD...

So, finally I've found the source of the problem and a workaround!
First the source:
when Encore has to transcode a video it must corrupt the file, because it's the transcoded file that causes the problem, I tried this by importing a transcoded file into Encore 1.5 there it came with the same error.
Now the workaround, ok maybe it isn't quite a workaround but it's a way to go:
What I did was: I built my project new in Encore 1.5, because Encore 2.0 has a problem importing the videos by me, but if you would just import the videos in 1.5 and let 1.5 transcode them so that all of them would fit on a DVD you should be able to import the transcoded files in CS3 and it should work, no guarantee.
Other possibility: try opening your project in encore 2.0 and re import your videos there and let 2.0 do all of the transcoding, that might work too!
But for certain: don't let encore CS3 do all the transcoding!
I'm working with PAL files I don't know if it will be the same by NTSC, but it's worth a try!
If anybody feels like reproducing the bug, here is the way to do it:
Make a project in Encore CS3 and import Videos encoded by premiere as MPG2-DVD (I think: .m2v .wav) and set the transcoding options to automatic, encore should have to transcode the files. Then let encore make the DVD, at some point you should get that nice PGC error!

DVD pauses right before credits Encore CS3

Hello,
     I am making a DVD and have burned a copy, everything is fine except when the video goes into the credits the video pauses for a second or so.
Here are my steps in creating the DVD.
1. Edited movie in Premiere
2. In Premiere I went to Title>New Title>Default Still and on the 'Roll/Crawl Options' I added a Roll
3. Typed in my text and closed it.
4. I Put the Credits video clip in the timeline and added a 'Cross Disolve' transition
5. I Went to File>Export>Export to Encore   I Exported the movie with this summary -
   NTSC, 720x480, 29.97 non-drop frame [fps], Progressive, Quality 5.0
     48 kHz, 16 bit, PCM
     VBR, 2 Pass, Min 1.50, Target 4.00, Max 7.00 [Mbps]
6. In Encore I added a basic menu
7. I then Burned the DVD
Again my problem is that halfway into the cross disolve leading into the credits it pauses for ~1sec. I think it may be the way Encore burns the disc because this does not happen in the preview window of Encore.
I am using . . .
Windows XP Profesional
Premiere CS3
Encore CS3
All help is appreciated,
Nicholas

I have never heard of DiscMaker brand. Could be great, or maybe not. Many companies buy the cheapest discs that day, and then rebrand them, like Memorex, so you never know what you are getting.
An ISO is an Image of the disc, and is created, when you choose Burn to Image. It is similar to doing a Burn to Folder, but is different. The great freeware, ImgBurn can burn either the ISO, or the VIDEO_TS created with Burn to Folder. I like that second option a bit better, only because the VIDEO_TS folder will play in most DVD software players, like MediaPlayer Classic HC (freeware). ImgBurn will also tell you what the mfgr. of those discs is.
I edit most Projects, a bit differently, than many others. Each segment of my Project is in a separate Sequence in PrPro. Each starts with a tiny bit of Black Video, and then fades into the footage with a Dip-to-Black (could use a Cross-Dissolve here too). Each ends with a tiny bit of Black Video, with the same Transition. My Credits would be on their own Sequence, as all of my "chapters/scene." In Encore, each Sequence goes onto a separate Timeline, and each is created in their proper order in Encore, so my Into is done first, "Scene 1" next, and so on, then my Credits are the last to be created in Encore. That keeps the writing of these in order, so the laser does not have to skip about, unless the user does so. This makes playback as smooth as is possible, and with the Dip-to-Black, there is never any clue given the user, that the laser has to move about. Unless they had a very accurate stop watch, they'll never pick up that their might be a slight pause, waiting for the laser.
Good luck,
Hunt

HDV CS3 Project to SD Encore CS3

I have a HDV sequence I've edited in PPro CS3. I want to export the sequence to Encore CS3 in standard definition.
What is the best way to accomplish this?
Option 1: Export the HDV sequence from PPro to an uncompressed DV AVI in Widescreen format at 720 x 480 (1.2). Import that AVI into Encore and let it compress the video to MPEG-2 format. I've read about some people using this workflow - however I'm not sure if I need to de-interlace my footage. I chose to use the lower field first since I'm going to DV AVI format. Should I de-interlace if I use this option? Also I noticed some small black bars on either side of my video when I go with this option - is there a work around for that?
Option 2: Expor the HDV sequence from PPro to MPEG-2 DVD format. Will my video look better if I export right to MPEG-2 DVD format from PPro's HDV timeline?
I have researched forums on this question however I'm unable to find a definitive answer on this subject.
Thanks
Foochuck

Most people would find neither of your options acceptable. The absolute best method is to use Dan Isaacs' hd2sd script with AviSynth. Just search this forum and you will find a wealth of information. There is also a great tutorial on dv2film that will show you how to install the tools. Also see http://invertedhorn.axspace.com/hdv2dvd_basic.html for much of the same info.

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