Undefined step in bpm

hi, can any body tell me that why do we use undefined step in BPM
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vvr murty

Hi,
From Sap help.
You can use undefined step:
As a placeholder for a step that has not yet been defined
As a step with no functions for test purposes
Regards,
Chandra

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