Undo with external editor

Please I need your help because after the modification in external editor if I undo the modification Aperture put my photo in the trash.
There is also a problem that my Pentax lens 55-300 HD is not recognize from the app.
Many many thanks for your reply.
Toni

Please I need your help because after the modification in external editor if I undo the modification Aperture put my photo in the trash.
Aperture can only undo edits losslessly, that are done using Aperture's internal edit tools. When you edit in an external editor, Aperture creates a new original image files (TIFF or PSD) and sends this to the external editor.
When you undo the external edits, essentially this second new original image file will be moved to the Trash. The image that you originally edited should still be there, only the copy will be gone.
There is also a problem that my Pentax lens 55-300 HD is not recognize from the app.
Does Aperture show "unknown lens" or a wrong lens tag? That can happen. Aperture does not know all lens makes, and some tags are ambiguous. Use Aperture's feedback form to report the error. Perhaps there will be a bug fix.

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Hi,
I recently made my first attempt via Aperture to "Edit with External Editor" and in my case I have the preferences set to export to Photoshop CS4 Extended. The External Editor File Format (in preferences) selected is TIFF and as advised by Apple's Help menu this is set at 16-bit. The External Editor Color Spaces is set to Adobe-RGB (1998).
I selected an image with some barrel distortion, hit the export button, and Aperture sent the new master to Photoshop. I did my fixing and saved. This automatically sends the updated file to Aperture. This is very handy and practical but I was shocked to see the size of the new and fixed file. The original file was a JPEG at 4MB and the new fixed file was a colossal 200+ MB file. I ended up throwing away the new file - too large.
I am just wondering if this is normal? This is my first time using the Edit with External Editor in Aperture and I am also quite clueless about using Photoshop efficiently and properly. Could I have done something differently and received the new and fixed file at a smaller size?
Thanks for your advice and help.
Chau

Chau wrote:
I am just wondering if this is normal? This is my first time using the Edit with External Editor in Aperture and I am also quite clueless about using Photoshop efficiently and properly. Could I have done something differently and received the new and fixed file at a smaller size?
This is normal.
TIFF files get rather large and the 200 MB sounds about right. If I send a 1.63 MB JPEG at the same settings in PS CS5, I get a 134 MB TIFF after applying the Lens Correction filter and saving.
If I send the same file as a TIFF 8-bit in Adobe-RGB (1998), I get back a 54.73 MB file.
You could therefore send as an 8-bit TIFF to reduce the size. Additionally, the PSD format tends to return a slightly smaller file size (51.xx MB in the case here).
A JPEG file is actually only an 8-bit file, so it isn't really necessary to go to 16-bit, but many users like to protect against further degradation of the JPEG when editing externally (especially from posterization where smooth gradients - such as a sky - start to break down into visible steps in the color transition).
I personally send as TIFF 8-bit in the sRGB color space and if the image shows degradation, then I might change to the TIFF 16-bit (or simply not use that image).

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I have just updated my iPhoto to Photos in OS X and i have noticed that the option to edit photo with external editor such as Photoshop has been removed. will this be back!
Its now a pain to send a photo directly to my favourite photo editing software.
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Thanks Terence
Totally understand being a new app and not an update.
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I wonder why I open untagged JPEG with "external editor" (Photoshop CS) , then the JPEG will be attached with sRGB profile. Of course my color setting on photoshop is "Use the embedded profile".
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Thank you for your reply , Lloyd.
I am sorry , but I noticed my misunderstanding message.
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This has been touched on in the forums, but I wanted
to ask the question outright: Can you set the output
color space to something other than AdobeRGB when you
use "Open with External Editor"? I can't find any
way to change it... I like to work in ProPhoto, I
saw some like to work in sRGB.
Regardless of how the presets are set in the Version
Export or the Presets, it will only come in to
Photoshop as AdobeRGB.
Anybody know?
Ted
Well, to answer my own question, I now have it on good authority, actually the best authority, so good I can't say WHO, that there is NO way to specify a color space when using "Open in External Editor". Other than writing a script.
Hopefully this is an oversight, and will be in the next update!
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If the master was inside the Library then after deleting it, should be in the Trash, inside a folder called Aperture.
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Is there a way to not create a new version every time I use "Open with External Editor"?
If I want to open an image in PS, just opening it creates a new version in Aperture, even if I don't make any adjustments to the image in PS.
I've deselected "Create new versions when making adjustments" in the preferences.
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Not sure this will help, but I noticed this problem as well a while ago, but have since developed a work around...
All my files start off as RAW. When I use "Open in External Editor", Aperture generates a new version with a bulls eye target (this is my C2 version). If manipulate this image in CS and save it when I close, it remains as a bullseye target (look at the lower right corner in full screen). If I reopen this specific image, no new file will be generated. If I manipulate it in Aperture, a new file will be generated (but without the bullseye target) and if I then use "Open in External Editor" another new file will be generated.
I have never checked to see what happens with a primary PSD file imported. And I am sure the meaning the bullseye target is in the manual someplace.
So my workflow is RAW file-->all my desired aperture adjustments-->open in external editor for final clean up and modification. I end up with my original RAW file (Aperture modified and restorable to original by removing all selections) and one CS2 file. If I want several version off of my first CS2 file, I duplicate version of the CS2 file, and the open the bullseyed version NOT the new duplicate version image.
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Am I missing something very obvious?
No matter what I do, I am unable to export to external editor (photoshop) and have them open as 16bt files. They always open as 8bt.
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No, you are right. My nice 16 bit file goes to 8 bits
when opened in the external editor. Needs to be fixed.
Needs to be fixed and we should not be forced into Adobe RGB (1998)! What if the scene gamut exceeds this? I can’t get ProPhoto? Or the scene gamut is much smaller but I want 16-bit sRGB?
Is there any logic in how Aperture is providing this encoding? Again, I suspected it was based on the EXIF data the camera writes to the RAW file based on the matrix. I’m lazy but should set my Canon to sRGB, shoot RAW and see what Aperture thinks it should use. But that doesn’t matter because having only sRGB or Adobe RGB (1998) doesn’t cut it.
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"Open with External Editor" command bug?

Seems to be a bug with "open with external editor" command. If I try it just after Aperture has been opened, it usually works (sometimes not). And then after a couple of photos being edited in photoshop, it sometimes stops working. When I try it, it simply gives me SBBOD for a few seconds (which it does when it's working as well), and then nothing happens. No new master created in Aperture, and nothing in Photoshop. If I restart the program, it usually takes care of the problem, and it will work again for a bit. Sometimes restarting the program doesn't even work, and I have to reboot. Very strange.
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Opening with external editor always makes new version

i am a fine art figure photographer and portrait artist. almost every photo that i want to finish has to be round tripped to photoshop for retouching. in Aperture 1.5, i could select a photo, open in external editor (photoshop cs3), make my retouches and save the new version. if i wanted to re-visit the image and make further modifications, i could select the round-tripped photo, open with external editor, and the edited photo would be opened without creating a new version.
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in the preferences, i have the option "Create new versions when making adjustments" unchecked. that's the only option i can see that affects the automatic creation of new versions. any advice on how to edit the image without making a copy would be greatly appreciated!
thanks,
scott
Message was edited by: scott nichol

Hi,
I had the same problem as the OP and was surprised to read that Ian didn't encounter that same behavior. So I started testing several options. This is what I found;
When I open a previously-externally-edited picture from within Aperture, using the keyboard shortcut ⇧⌘ O, Aperture automatically creates a new version.
The same thing happens when I choose 'Edit with Adobe Photoshop CS3' from the Images menu in the menu bar.
On the other hand, when I open a previously-externally-edited picture from within Aperture by Ctrl clicking the picture and choosing 'Edit with Adobe Photoshop CS3' from the pop-up menu, the picture opens in Photoshop without Aperture creating a new version first.
Very strange because the pop-up menu command has the same keyboard shortcut as the commands I used in the first and second attempt.
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Cheers,
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