Undoing a precomp
I'm using Premiere Pro to edit a proect and am doing a LOT of AE work to it (and I'm somewhat new to AE, so pardon my stupidity if this is obvious). When I'm working on the Premiere Pro timeline and chose to "replace with AE composition," all of the layers I'm working with in Premiere open in AE already precomposed. For the most part, this isn't a big deal but if I need to motion track a clip AE won't allow me to do that to the precomp - and when I double-click and open up the source comp, it's the entire take (sometimes very long - and therefore difficult to just copy and paste into my dynamically linked comp).
All I want is to be able to motion track a short clip ported over from Premiere Pro without having to go into the source clip. The easiset (hypothetical) way to do this would be to un-precompose the clip (which AE doesn't seem to be able to do) or not send individually-precomposed clips from Premiere in the first place. I hope all this makes sense - but if anyone knows how I can avoid the annoying step of having to leave the media I've set up in Premiere Pro and messing with raw footage again, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thanks!
Here's a link to the file in question, entitled "sketchbox":
http://tinyurl.com/7u8meqt
I'm a relative newbie to AE (less than a year) so I assume it's operator error in some way! BTW, not to reduce my own "new guy" status," but I'm a 10 year veteran of FCP who jumped over to CS5.5 back in June when FCPX came out, and before that I used to cut in Media 100 (about another 3 years). I've cut stuff for major clients and for broadcast in FCP, and I'm still getting my sea legs in Adobe - which has been an awesome process for the most part by the way. And as for motion graphics, I'm relatively new to it but have used it on several recent projects. And I think this happened on all of them, but I didn't have a lot of motion tracking to do so I just thought it was normal.
I'll try to answer your questions. Am I getting the footage in AE? If you mean "is the footage showing up in there?" absolutely. My workflow on this current project is importing video (in this case, H.264 video shot on a Canon 5D Mk II) into Premiere with no transcode, and doing 99% of all work in Premiere. When I need to do some VFX work (putting an image onto a greenscreeened television screen, for instance), I do exactly what you showed me how to do and it works great except that every piece of media, when opened in AE, is already precomposed.
And I'm using version 10.5.0.253 for what it's worth. And on a Mac if that makes any difference.
And like I said, this really doesn't effect my workflow very much except in the rare case that I need to motion track the footage. Because - for whatever reason - AE won't let me track the precomps.
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http://forums.adobe.com/docs/DOC-2325
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Did you not notice Edit > Undo or what are you talking about?
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Undo is not working properly (grayed out)
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Processor: 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory: 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3
I ran into this issue doing a publication layout. I was not doing anything overly complicated. Copying/pasting, placing images, adding text boxes, copying/pasting text boxes. It seems to happen without rhyme or reason.
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Open new doc (standard letter)
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select NEW text box (selection tool)
copy the NEW text box (cmd C)
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move the text box (selection tool).
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Undo the various actions after placing and moving the 5 text boxes.
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Illustrator
Photoshop
Text Edit
MS Word 2011
Excell 2011
Messages
Chrome
Finder
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Process: Adobe InDesign CC [3814]
Path: /Applications/Adobe InDesign CC/Adobe InDesign CC.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CC
Identifier: com.adobe.InDesign
Version: 9.2.0.69 (9200)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [172]
Responsible: Adobe InDesign CC [3814]
User ID: ***
Date/Time: 2014-01-27 11:58:37.300 -0800
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.1 (13B42)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: ********************
Sleep/Wake UUID: *********************
Crashed Thread: 8
Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information:
abort() called
*** error for object 0x6180002737c0: Heap corruption detected, free list canary is damaged
Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
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Thread 8 Crashed:
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Thread 8 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000000000000 rbx: 0x0000000119dfa000 rcx: 0x0000000119df8958 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x0000000000007c13 rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x0000000119df8980 rsp: 0x0000000119df8958
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rip: 0x00007fff8af44866 rfl: 0x0000000000000206 cr2: 0x00000001083c9000
Logical CPU: 0
Error Code: 0x02000148
Trap Number: 133
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I am setting new Windows 8.1 Pro computers, and am installing Windows 8.1 Pro to bare drives. Everything goes fine until Windows Update starts installing updates, and then the computer goes for hours installing updates, and then "We
could not complete the updates Undoing changes". It's an endless loop. It seems to be the same 38 updates. This is a recent phenomenon. I have not run into this until the last week or two on several new computer installs.
Again these are brand new installs, so something is clearly wrong with the Windows updates.
If anyone can please tell me how to avoid this, it would be much appreciated.
MichaelHi Michael,
" This is a recent phenomenon"
Have you made any modifications to the machines ?
To resolve this issue ,running the built-in troubleshoot tool is a very good beginning .It will automatically diagnostic the windows update components and check the configurations for us .
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Troubleshooting\Fix problems with Windows Update
If there are antivirus software installed in these machines, please turn off them temporarily to have a check.
The command line included in the link as S.Sengupta posted is very useful and convenient to repair the windows corrupted files .We can have a try .
"sfc /scannow" ,"DISM.EXE /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth "
We also can check the windowsupdate.log for more information to troubleshoot this issue .
Run "windowsupdate.log"
If you have trouble in analyzing the log ,please upload them to the OneDrive and paste the link here .
Best regards -
I accidentally clicked "restore" when I meant to "back up" on my iphone 5, is there anyway I can undo that and get back to what I had?
Once the Device is being Restored with iTunes... it is too late to save anything...
To minimise loss... Restore from the most recent Backup...
Restore from Backup
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1766 -
I'm seeing this weird thing where Media Encoder is using older versions of certain assets when exporting a Premiere Pro CC 2014 sequence. I'm seeing issues with nested sequences...Media Encoder uses an old version of a linked AE comp or it doesn't render a certain video track. With linked AE comps...I'm seeing Media Encoder use an earlier version of a precomp within the main comp.
When I look at the video in the Export Settings dialogue in Media Encoder, the old version of the AE comp shows .
If I look at the Export Settings dialogue in Premiere, it's up to date and looks right.
Anyone dealing with this or found a workaround? Thanks!
CalvinI don't think I'd call this issue expected behavior...at best it's anticipated behavior that's going wrong. The only reason I wouldn't call it expected behavior is because what I'm seeing is AME reverting to a cached state on a FRESH LOAD of a sequence to render directly from Premiere. Basically, AME isn't open...sequence looks fine in PPro...load into AME via PPro export...look at export settings dialog in AME and note that the sequence is the old/cached version. So, it's not like the export was already in AME and THEN I made changes in PPro. It appears AME might be incorrectly identifying the newly imported sequence for export as an older, cached version.
However, I didn't get a chance to test your original solution so I'll try that the next time I see it happen. I also fixed the issue by clearing out the media cache and databases. NOT an elegant solution at all and TOTAL overkill...but it did work.
Thanks for the links! -
I accidently replaced a file with another. Can I undo my action?
I had two files named graphics. One was on my desktop and another was within another file called solitarie. I move the one on my desktop (wrong file) into the solitarie file and was asked if I wanted to replace the graphics file in the solitarie folder (the correct one). I said yes accidently and then remembered that I had made a mistake. If I use undo, it only move the wrong file back to the desktop. Is there an undo of replace?Sorry, but's that's why you get the warning. "Replace" means just that - the new file over-writes the old one. There is no undo.
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I made a dumb decision to 'Erase Free Space' on my drive. I now have no free space, I realize because it wrote 0's over all my free space. Is there a way to undo this??? Help please I can't save any documents now! Thanks in advance all, it is truly appreciated. how can find the hidden temporary files using the terminal what do i type in?
It's more likely a failed Erase Free Space, which creates a huge temporary file; that's why it looks like you have no more available drive space. You can recover from this. See these links
https://discussions.apple.com/message/10938738#10938738
http://www.macgeekery.com/tips/quickie/recovering_from_a_failed_secure_erase_fre e_space
Post back if you need any help with this. -
I downloaded the latest Firefox. In trying to learn some of the new features, I hit the Full Screen option. It went to full screen and now I do not have access to the functions I need. I can't do anything! I need to find out how to undo my mistake or I will not be able to use firefox at all. I can't even get to the portion where I can go to my gmail.
Have you tried pressing the F11 key on your keyboard? It toggles Fullscreen mode.
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Hello...
I want to know if there's any way to increase the amount of undos I can make in Illustrator CS5.
Thanks in advance.I wonder why should anyone need more than 200 undos...anyway if you're adventurous try hacking the preference file, I found these two entries in there
/undoDepth 5
/maxUndoDepth 200
I don't know what they do, let us know how it went please. -
How to undo an order of transport which has returned an error code 8
Hi experts,
While transporting an installation of business content, it has removed a lot of transfert rules. Could you tell me how to undo this transport from quality to the production envirenenmet. Unfortunately I dident check the transport order which has returned the code error 8.
Thank you for your answer.
Regards.Hi Joseph,
Transport all the objects you want in the order again with a new request. This will replace all the transported objects and you will get all the objects transported.
Regards,
KK. -
SELECT query sometimes runs extremely slowly - UNDO question
Hi,
The Background
We have a subpartitioned table:
CREATE TABLE TAB_A
RUN_ID NUMBER NOT NULL,
COB_DATE DATE NOT NULL,
PARTITION_KEY NUMBER NOT NULL,
DATA_TYPE VARCHAR2(10),
START_DATE DATE,
END_DATE DATE,
VALUE NUMBER,
HOLDING_DATE DATE,
VALUE_CURRENCY VARCHAR2(3),
NAME VARCHAR2(60),
PARTITION BY RANGE (COB_DATE)
SUBPARTITION BY LIST (PARTITION_KEY)
SUBPARTITION TEMPLATE
(SUBPARTITION GROUP1 VALUES (1) TABLESPACE BROIL_LARGE_DATA,
SUBPARTITION GROUP2 VALUES (2) TABLESPACE BROIL_LARGE_DATA,
SUBPARTITION GROUP3 VALUES (3) TABLESPACE BROIL_LARGE_DATA,
SUBPARTITION GROUP4 VALUES (4) TABLESPACE BROIL_LARGE_DATA,
SUBPARTITION GROUP5 VALUES (DEFAULT) TABLESPACE BROIL_LARGE_DATA
PARTITION PARTNO_03 VALUES LESS THAN
(TO_DATE(' 2008-07-22 00:00:00', 'SYYYY-MM-DD HH24:MI:SS', 'NLS_CALENDAR=GREGORIAN'))
( SUBPARTITION PARTNO_03_GROUP1 VALUES (1),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_03_GROUP2 VALUES (2),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_03_GROUP3 VALUES (3),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_03_GROUP4 VALUES (4),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_03_GROUP5 VALUES (DEFAULT) ),
PARTITION PARTNO_01 VALUES LESS THAN
(TO_DATE(' 2008-07-23 00:00:00', 'SYYYY-MM-DD HH24:MI:SS', 'NLS_CALENDAR=GREGORIAN'))
( SUBPARTITION PARTNO_01_GROUP1 VALUES (1),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_01_GROUP2 VALUES (2),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_01_GROUP3 VALUES (3),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_01_GROUP4 VALUES (4),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_01_GROUP5 VALUES (DEFAULT) ),
PARTITION PARTNO_02 VALUES LESS THAN
(TO_DATE(' 2008-07-24 00:00:00', 'SYYYY-MM-DD HH24:MI:SS', 'NLS_CALENDAR=GREGORIAN'))
( SUBPARTITION PARTNO_02_GROUP1 VALUES (1),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_02_GROUP2 VALUES (2),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_02_GROUP3 VALUES (3),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_02_GROUP4 VALUES (4),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_02_GROUP5 VALUES (DEFAULT) ),
PARTITION PARTNO_OTHER VALUES LESS THAN (MAXVALUE)
( SUBPARTITION PARTNO_OTHER_GROUP1 VALUES (1),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_OTHER_GROUP2 VALUES (2),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_OTHER_GROUP3 VALUES (3),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_OTHER_GROUP4 VALUES (4),
SUBPARTITION PARTNO_OTHER_GROUP5 VALUES (DEFAULT) )
CREATE INDEX TAB_A_IDX ON TAB_A
(RUN_ID, COB_DATE, PARTITION_KEY, DATA_TYPE, VALUE_CURRENCY)
LOCAL;The table is subpartitioned as each partition typically has 135million rows in it.
Overnight, serveral runs occur that load data into this table (the partitions are rolled over daily, such that the oldest one is dropped and a new one created. Stats are exported from the oldest partition prior to being dropped and imported to the newly created partition. The oldest partition once the partition has been created has it's stats analyzed).
Data loads can load anything from 200 rows to 20million rows into the table, with most of the rows ending up in the Default subpartition. Most of the runs that load a larger set of rows have been set up to add into one of the other 4 subpartitions.
We then run a process to extract data from the table that gets put into a file. This is a two step process (due to Oracle completely picking the wrong execution plan and us not being able to rewrite the query in such a way that it'll pick the right path up by itself!):
1. Identify all the unique currencies
2. Update the (dynamic) sql query to add a CASE clause into the select clause based on the currencies identified in step 1, and run the query.
Step 1 uses this query:
SELECT DISTINCT value_currency
FROM tab_a
WHERE run_id = :b3 AND cob_date = :b2 AND partition_key = :b1;and usually finishes this within 20 minutes.
The problem
Occasionally, this simple query runs over 20 minutes (I don't think we've ever seen it run to completion on these occurrences, and I've certainly seen it take over 3 hours before we killed it, for a run where it would normally complete in 2 or 3 minutes), which we've now come to recognise as it "being stuck". The execution path it takes is the same as when it runs normally, there are no unusual wait events, and no unusual wait times. All in all, it looks "normal" except for the fact that it's taking forever (tongue-in-cheek!) to run. When we kill and rerun, the execution time returns to normal. (We've sent system state dumps to Oracle to be analyzed, and they came back with "The database is doing stuff, can't see anything wrong")
We've never been able to come up with any explanation before, but the same run has failed consistently for the last three days, so I managed to wangle a DBA to help me investigate it further.
After looking through the ASH reports, he proposed a theory that the problem was it was having to go to the UNDO to retrieve results, and that this could explain the massive run time of the query.
I looked at the runs and agreed that UNDO might have been used in that particular instance of the query, as another run had loaded data into the table at the same time it was being read.
However, another one of the problematic runs had not had any inserts (or updates/deletes - they don't happen in our process) during the reading of the data, and yet it had taken a long time too. The ASH report showed that it too had read from UNDO.
My question
I understand from this link: http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/asktom/f?p=100:11:0::::P11_QUESTION_ID:44798632736844 about how Selects may generate REDO, but I don't see why UNDO would possibly be generated by a select. Does anyone know of a situation where a select would end up looking through UNDO, even though no inserts/updates/deletes had taken place on the table/index it was looking at?
Also, does the theory that having to look through the UNDO (currently UNDO ts is 50000MB, in case that's relevant) causing queries to take an extremely long time hold water? We're on 10.2.0.3
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Boneist
Ok, having carried on searching t'internet, I can see that it's maybe Delayed Block Cleanout that's causing the UNDO to be referenced. Even taking that into account, I can't see why going back to the UNDO to be told to commit the change to disk could slow the query down that much? What waits would this show up as, if any?Since you're on 10.2 and I understand that you use
the statistics of the "previous" content for the
partition that you are now loading (am I right?) you
have to be very careful with the 10g optimizer. If
the statistics tell the optimizer that the values
that you're querying for are sufficiently
out-of-range this might change the execution plan
because it estimates that only a few or no rows will
be returned. So if the old statistics do not fit the
new data loaded in terms of column min/max values
then this could be a valid reason for different
execution plans for some executions (depending on the
statistics of the old partition and the current
values used). Your RUN_ID is a good candidate I guess
as it could be ever increasing... If the max value of
the old partition is sufficiently different from the
current value this might be the cause.
Do you actually use bind variables for that
particular statement? Then we have in addition bind
variable peeking and potentially statement re-using
to consider.
I would prefer literals instead of bind variables or
do you encounter parse issues?Yes, that query runs as part of a procedure and uses bind variables (well, pl/sql variables!). We are aware that because of the histograms that get produced, the stats are not as good as we'd like. I'm wondering if analyzing the partition would be the best way to go, only that means analysing the entire partition, not just the subpartition, I guess? But if other inserts are taking place at the same time, having several analyzes taking place won't help the speed of inserting, or won't it matter?
Do you have the "default" 10g statistics gathering
job active? This could also explain why you get
different execution plans at different execution
times. If the job determines that the statistics of
some of your partitions are stale then it will
attempt to gather statistics even if you already have
statistics imported/generated.No, we turned that off. The stats do not change when we rerun the query - we guess there is some sort of contention taking place, possibly when reading from the UNDO, although I would expect that to show up in the waits - it doesn't appear to though.
Data loads can load anything from 200 rows to
20million rows into the table, with most of therows
ending up in the Default subpartition. Most of the
runs that load a larger set of rows have been setup
to add into one of the other 4 subpartitions.
I'm not sure about above description. Do most of the
rows end up in the default subpartition (most rows in
default partition) or do the larger sets load into
the other 4 ones... (most rows in the non-default
partitions)?Sorry, I mean that the loads that load say 20million + rows at a time have a specified subpartition to go into (defined via some config. We had to make up a "partition key" in order to do this as there is nothing in the data that lends itself to the subpartition list, unfortunately - the process determines which subpartition to load to/extract from via a config table), but this applies to not many of the runs. So, the majority of the runs (with fewer rows) go into the default partition.
The query itself scans the index, not the table, doing partition pruning, etc.
The same SQL_ID doesn't mean it's the same plan. So
are you 100% sure that the plans where the same? I
could imagine (see above) that the execution plans
might be different.The DBA looking at it said that the plans were the same, and I have no reason to doubt him. Also, the session browser in Toad shows the same explain plan in the "Current Statement" tab for normal and abnormal runs and is as follows:
Time IO Cost CPU Cost Cardinality Bytes Cost Plan
6 SELECT STATEMENT ALL_ROWS
4 1 4 4 4 82,406 4 1 4 20 4 6 4 HASH UNIQUE
3 1 3 4 3 28,686 3 1 3 20 3 5 3 PARTITION RANGE SINGLE Partition #: 2
2 1 2 4 2 28,686 2 1 2 20 2 5 2 PARTITION LIST SINGLE Partition #: 3
1 1 1 4 1 28,686 1 1 1 20 1 5 1 INDEX RANGE SCAN INDEX TAB_A_IDX Access Predicates: "RUN_ID"=:B3 AND "COB_DATE"=:B2 AND "PARTITION_KEY"=:B1 Partition #: 3
How do you perform your INSERTs? Are overlapping
loads and queries actually working on the same
(sub-)partition of the table or in different ones? Do
you use direct-path inserts or parallel dml?
Direct-path inserts as far I know create "clean"
blocks that do not need a delayed block cleanout.We insert using a select from an external table - there's a parallel hint in there, but I think that is often ignored (at least, I've never seen any hint of sessions running in parallel when looking at the session browser, and I've seen it happen in one of our dev databases, so...). As mentioned above, rows could get inserted into different partitions, although the majority of runs load into the default subpartition. In practise, I don't think more than 3 or 4 loads take place at the same time.
If you loading and querying different partitions then
your queries shouldn't have to check for UNDO except
for the delayed block cleanout case.
You should check at least two important things:
- Are the execution plans different for the slow and
normal executions?
- Get the session statistics (logical I/Os, redo
generated) for the normal and slow ones in order to
see and compare the amount of work that they
generate, and to find out how much redo your query
potentially generated due to delayed block cleanout.It's difficult to do a direct comparison that's exact, due to other work going on in the database, and the abnormal query taking far longer than normal, but here is the ASH comparison between a normal run (1st) and our abnormal run (2nd) (both taken over 90 mins, and the first run may well include other runs that use the same query in the results):
Exec Time of DB Exec Time (ms) #Exec/sec CPU Time (ms) Physical Reads / Exec #Rows Processed
Time / Exec (DB Time) / Exec / Exec
SQL Id 1st 2nd Diff 1st 2nd 1st 2nd 1st 2nd 1st 2nd 1st 2nd Multiple Plans SQL Text
gpgaxqgnssnvt 3.54 15.76 12.23 223,751 1,720,297 0.00 0.00 11,127 49,095 42,333.00 176,565.00 2.67 4.00 No SELECT DISTINCT VALUE_CURRENCY... -
How do I undo BC Partition repair in disk utility?
Here's the summary:
8-core MacPro2,1 running 10.6.8, Paragon NTFS for Mac, Bootcamp Win7.
4 internal HDD drives: two 1.5TBs for data, one 1TB for MacOS, one 1.5TB for Win7 bootcamp.
I mostly use the Mac side for music production (but rarely), and the Win side for business and everything else. Scores and scores of Win apps installed over the years. [4 monitor system], well over 500K files on the drive.
I just backed up the data from the two data-only drives, and made a bootable clone of the MacOS drive (SuperDuper). I have never successfully been able to clone the Win7 Bootcamp NTFS drive (even with Winclone back in 2009) because of volume sizes (or something). I decided to try again, from WITHIN Windows this time (all other attempts were from the Mac OS side).
I bought, downloaded, and installed Acronis True image from within the Win7 bootcamp system. [I obviously did not know that it was gonna modify my MBR, and I had no idea at the time that the GPT and MBR areas were somehow 'mingled' on a bootcamp drive.]
So, when I performed the Acronis-requested reboot (my default boot is into the Bootcamp/Win7 drive), it failed to boot and requested some Windows recovery media or something. I was concerned that anything i put in the DVD drive would sabotage my priceless (in retrospect) stable/optimized Win7 bootcamp system. So, i just hard-powered down the Mac and tried to restart.
I did the Alt/option key, and i was presented with the Mac or Win drive icons. I selected Win, and then I got a different boot error message--'no MBR found'.
But this time i realized that Acronis had stepped where it shouldn't have, and I figured the Mac side could fix the boot problem (maybe with bootcamp assistant or something).
If i had stopped THERE, and searched the forums i could have found how to fix THAT problem--that has been answered tons of times…
But, instead, i went to Disk Utility and asked it to repair my Bootcamp partition (I have Paragon NTFS and it has worked for years, and so I did not have a reason to doubt Disk Utility's ability to Repair an NTFS volume--not that i have tried it before, of course).
Disk Utility repair ran for about 10-15 minutes and said it fixed about 10-20 things.
The drive information (in the side bar and below) still had the BOOTCAMP partition, reported that it was NTFS, said that there was 308 GB still available of the 1.5TB drive, and that it contained 1.19TB 'used'. Looked normal to me.
I closed Disk Utility and then opened a Finder window to see if DU left any 'artifacts' of its 'fixes' on the BOOTCAMP partition, and all the files were gone! Even though DU said it had 1.19TB 'used', all of my files are gone. [I rebooted also, to verify that it was not some 'delayed reporting' issue.]
When I enable 'hidden files' to show, what I get on the Bootcamp partition are these three entries:
.DS_Store (16KB), .fseventsd folder (with a 1KB UUID file inside it), and a .Trashes folder with zero KB.
At this point, I panic and assume the position of despair. There is no 'undo' key for the D/U that I can find. I do an orderly shut down of the system, physically remove the Win7 BC drive, and make/verify a sector-by-sector clone of the drive (on a Win7 laptop, using Acronis--22 hours).
In Win7 Disk Management, the GPT partition (on the original drive) shows up and the BOOTCAMP partition shows up--with the proper size--but windows does NOT recognize the partition as being NTFS. It reports it as being RAW and 'urges' me to format it (yeah, right…).
So, I place the sector-by-sector duplicate back into the Mac, boot up (only the Mac OS is given as an option), and am ready to 'work on' recovering the Win7 BC partition (if possible).
I am avoiding trying to fix the booting problem, because recovery of the 1.2TB of a working system is much more critical for me.
The clone HDD reports the same in DU, except now the GPT partition shows up as greyed-out 'disk1s1', right above the "BOOTCAMP" partition in the sidebar. [I understand from researching this that disk1s1 is somehow related to the bootloader for BC?]
I used the demo version of Data Rescue 3 to scan for recoverable files from the drive, but it doesn't even report the .files. (I am running the deep scan now, but will take about another 9 hours to complete that).
Has anybody got any suggestions on how to reclaim this partition and its system?
Here are a couple of other details from diagnostic tools:
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro2,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 3 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 8 MB
Memory: 13 GB
Bus Speed: 1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP21.007F.B06
newmac:~ gmmx2$ sudo gpt -r show disk1
start size index contents
0 1 PMBR
1 1 Pri GPT header
2 32 Pri GPT table
34 262144 1 GPT part - E3C9E316-0B5C-4DB8-817D-F92DF00215AE
262178 2014
264192 409600 2 GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B
673792 2929602560 3 GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7
2930276352 783
2930277135 32 Sec GPT table
2930277167 1 Sec GPT header
newmac:~ gmmx2$ diskutil list
/dev/disk0
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *1.0 TB disk0
1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 999.9 GB disk0s2
/dev/disk1
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *1.5 TB disk1
1: Microsoft Reserved 134.2 MB disk1s1
2: EFI 209.7 MB disk1s2
3: Microsoft Basic Data BOOTCAMP 1.5 TB disk1s3
/dev/disk2
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *1.5 TB disk2
1: EFI 209.7 MB disk2s1
2: Apple_HFS D3 750.0 GB disk2s2
3: Microsoft Basic Data DATA3 749.9 GB disk2s3
/dev/disk3
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: FDisk_partition_scheme *1.5 TB disk3
1: Windows_NTFS SSDSUB 1.5 TB disk3s1
[Disk 1 is obviously the BC one]
newmac:~ gmmx2$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk1
Password:
Disk: /dev/disk1 geometry: -5415437/4/63 [-1364690128 sectors]
Signature: 0xAA55
Starting Ending
#: id cyl hd sec - cyl hd sec [ start - size]
1: EE 0 0 2 - 1023 254 63 [ 1 - -1364690129] <Unknown ID>
2: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused
3: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused
4: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused
I cannot be the only one who has much such a catastrophic error, so I am hoping that there is something I have overlooked (being only a part-time Mac user) or there is some utility somewhere which can fix this--
Or if you need more data, let me know...
thank you for your time--gmmAdditional information: I found the DU Repair log for that session, in case it helps:
2013-01-28 04:31:00 -0700: Disk Utility started.
2013-01-28 04:31:30 -0700: Verify and Repair volume “BOOTCAMP2013-01-28 04:31:30 -0700: Starting repair tool:
2013-01-28 04:31:30 -0700: Verifying files...
2013-01-28 04:31:57 -0700: Adjusting instance tags to prevent rollover on file 0x606f0.
2013-01-28 04:31:57 -0700: Adjusting instance tags to prevent rollover on file 0x606f2.
2013-01-28 04:31:57 -0700: Adjusting instance tags to prevent rollover on file 0x606f4.
2013-01-28 04:32:01 -0700: Files verification completed.
2013-01-28 04:32:01 -0700: Verifying meta files...
2013-01-28 04:32:01 -0700: Meta files verification completed.
2013-01-28 04:32:01 -0700: Veryfing $AttrDef.
2013-01-28 04:32:01 -0700: Veryfing $Boot.
2013-01-28 04:32:01 -0700: Verifying $UpCase.
2013-01-28 04:32:01 -0700: Correcting $UpCase data.
2013-01-28 04:32:01 -0700: Verifying $LogFile.
2013-01-28 04:32:01 -0700: Verifying $Volume.
2013-01-28 04:32:02 -0700: Verifying files with EAs...
2013-01-28 04:32:02 -0700: EAs verification completed.
2013-01-28 04:32:02 -0700: Verifying folders...
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Folders verification completed.
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Minor inconsistencies are detected on the volume.
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Creating root directory
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Verifying security descriptors...
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Clearing invalid security descriptor 0x25e
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Clearing invalid security descriptor 0x260
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Clearing invalid security descriptor 0x797
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Clearing invalid security descriptor 0x1538
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Deleting orphan $Secure::$SII entry 0x25e
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Deleting orphan $Secure::$SII entry 0x260
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Deleting orphan $Secure::$SII entry 0x797
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Deleting orphan $Secure::$SII entry 0x1538
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Deleting orphan $Secure::$SDH entry Id=0x797
2013-01-28 04:41:54 -0700: Deleting orphan $Secure::$SDH entry Id=0x25e
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Deleting orphan $Secure::$SDH entry Id=0x260
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Deleting orphan $Secure::$SDH entry Id=0x1538
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Verifying files security...
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Record 0x97c contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Record 0x99b contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Record 0xb88 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Record 0xb91 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Record 0xb92 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Record 0x5633 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Record 0x5635 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:55 -0700: Record 0x5637 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:57 -0700: Record 0xe1d4 contains invalid security Id (0x25e)
2013-01-28 04:41:57 -0700: Record 0xe1d5 contains invalid security Id (0x25e)
2013-01-28 04:41:57 -0700: Record 0xe1d6 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:58 -0700: Record 0x111c9 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:58 -0700: Record 0x111ca contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:58 -0700: Record 0x111cb contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:58 -0700: Record 0x111dc contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:58 -0700: Record 0x11285 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:58 -0700: Record 0x11297 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:58 -0700: Record 0x113c4 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:58 -0700: Record 0x113c5 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:41:58 -0700: Record 0x12528 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:42:00 -0700: Record 0x1cfe2 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:42:00 -0700: Record 0x1dce1 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:42:00 -0700: Record 0x1f6a8 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:42:00 -0700: Record 0x1f6a9 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:42:00 -0700: Record 0x1f6c4 contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:42:00 -0700: Record 0x21d57 contains invalid security Id (0x797)
2013-01-28 04:42:03 -0700: Record 0x3220d contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:42:06 -0700: Record 0x4bc2a contains invalid security Id (0x260)
2013-01-28 04:42:10 -0700: Record 0x64ff9 contains invalid security Id (0x1538)
2013-01-28 04:42:11 -0700: Can't read $SDS
2013-01-28 04:42:12 -0700: Security verification completed
2013-01-28 04:42:12 -0700: Verifying $MFT.
2013-01-28 04:42:12 -0700: Verifying $MFTMirr.
2013-01-28 04:42:12 -0700: Verifying $Bitmap.
2013-01-28 04:42:18 -0700: Volume repair complete.
2013-01-28 04:42:18 -0700: Updating boot support partitions for the volume as required.
2013-01-28 04:42:18 -0700: Repair tool completed: 2013-01-28 04:42:18 -0700:
2013-01-28 04:42:18 -0700: -
How to measure undo at a session level
Below is what are trying to do.
We are trying to implement Oracle's table block compression feature.
In doing so, in one of our testing we discovered that the session performing the DML (inserts) generated almost 30x undo.
We measured this undo by using below query (before the transaction commited).
SELECT a.sid, a.username, used_ublk, used_ublk*8192 bytes
FROM v$session a, v$transaction b
WHERE a.saddr = b.ses_addr
However, above is at a transaction level since it still not committed, we would lose this value once the transaction either committed or rolled back, for this reason, we are trying to find an equivalent statistic at a session level.
1. What we are trying to find it out whether if an equivalent session level statistic exist to measure the amount of undo generated?
2. Is the undo generated always in terms of "undo blocks?"
3. When querying v$statname for name like '%undo%' we came across several statistics, the closest one
undo change vector size -in bytes?
4. desc test_table;
Name Type
ID NUMBER
sql> insert into test_table values (1);
5. However when we run the query against:
SELECT s.username,sn.name, ss.value
FROM v$sesstat ss, v$session s, v$statname sn
WHERE ss.sid = s.sid
AND sn.statistic# = ss.statistic#
AND s.sid =204
AND sn.name ='undo change vector size'
SID USERNAME NAME BYTES
204 NP4 undo change vector size 492
6. Query against: v$transaction
SELECT a.sid, a.username, used_ublk, used_ublk*8192 bytes
FROM v$session a, v$transaction b
WHERE a.saddr = b.ses_addr
SID USED_UBLK BYTES
204 1 8192
What are trying to understand is:
1. How can we or what is the correct statistic to determine how many undo blocks were generated by particular session?
2. What is the statistic: undo change vector size? What does it really mean? or measure?Any transaction that generates Undo will use Undo Blocks in multiples of 1 --- i.e. the minimum allocation on disk is 8KB.
Furthermore, an Undo_Rec does not translate to a Table Row. The Undo has to capture changes to Indexes, block splits, other actions. Multiple changes to the same table/index block may be collapsed into one undo record/block etc etc.
Therefore, a transaction that generated 492 bytes of Undo would use 8KB of undo space because that is the minimum allocation.
You need to test with larger transactions.
SQL> update P_10 set col_2='ABC2' where mod(col_1,10)=0;
250000 rows updated.
SQL>
SQL> @active_transactions
SID SERIAL# SPID USERNAME PROGRAM XIDUSN USED_UBLK USED_UREC
143 542 17159 HEMANT sqlplus@DG844 (TNS V1-V3) 6 5176 500000
Statistic : db block changes 1,009,903
Statistic : db block gets 1,469,623
Statistic : redo entries 502,507
Statistic : redo size 117,922,016
Statistic : undo change vector size 41,000,368
Statistic : table scan blocks gotten 51,954
Statistic : table scan rows gotten 10,075,245Hemant K Chitale
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