Unicode and No-unicode system

Hi ,
Can i install a instace java unicode in a central instace abap no-unicode ?.
Is compatible ?
Thanks a lot

Hi Kaushal,
Kernel's are just executables, so their location makes no difference.
It is recommended to convert systems to Unicode, but not for the reasons you are saying here. When there is data communication between Unicode (sending) and non-Unicode (receiving) systems, there is always a possibility for data loss. A system can only store data using the code page that is implemented...so a non-Unicode system can receive data that it can not store (it is put in as "#" in the database). Whether Java is installed as an add-in or separate instance makes no difference whatsoever.
Best Regards,
Matt

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Client Copy between unicode system and non-unicode system

Hello,
we have to build up a new system for japan. It is planned to install a new 4.7Ext200 unicode system and then make a client copy from a non-unicode 4.7Ext200 (language= german, english) system to the unicode system. I don't think that this is possible way, but I can't find information regarding client copies from non-unicode to unicode. I would advice the project to convert the existing non-unicode system to unicode, make a system copy for the new system and then install japan languages. Any information, which can help me.
Regards,
Alexander

Hi,
without conversion client copy is not possible
look at following
Re: Client copy between unicode and Non-unicode
regards,
kaushal

Integrating MDMP and Unicode systems with IDoc interfaces

Hi,
We are working on integrating SAP R/3 6.20 (MDMP) with SAP PI 7.0 SP10 (Unicode) system. The source will send MATMAS or CLFMAS IDocs with Thai / Japanese characters and PI should transform and post it to SAP ECC 5.0 Target system [IDoc to IDoc scenario].
( SAP R/3 Legacy 620 - Non-Unicode / MDMP ) |----> ( XI - Unicode) -> (ECC - Unicode)
Had a look at few SAP notes (745030 ,656350 and 613389) and it looks like there is no standard way/best practice to handle this scenario.
References:
1.PDF of TECHED Session ID: IM101 Dealing with Multi-Language Garbage?Data Lessons Learned
2.SAP Note 745030 - MDMP - Unicode Interface_Solution Overview.pdf
3.MDMP_Unicode_Transfer_final.doc from SAP Note 745030
4.SAP Note 656350 - Master Data Transfer UNICODE to MDMP Systems with ALE.pdf
5.SAP Note 613389 - ALE SAP system group with Unicode systems (Solution-2)
My understanding per SAP Notes: (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
a. For MDMP integraton we can't use Standard ALE Config instead we have to use Custom Configuration (IDoc collection setting in Partner profile &Scheduling RSEOUT002/RSEOUT00_MDMP and use Function module :IDOC_INBOUND_ASYNCHRONOUS_2 ).
b. The RFC Destinations should use proper logon langauage for correct MDMP IDoc transfer (For sending IDocs with Japanese character, the logon language should be JP).
c. If we want to transfer IDocs in more than one language we need to create multiple Partner profiles/RFC destinations each with specific logon language.
Please guide us in integrating these systems if you have done a similar integrations, following are my questions:
1] Is there any configuration change required at PI layer?
2] Do we need to install codepages in PI Unicode system for all languages used or Unicode system is capable of handling all the languages?
3] Is it necessary to install any SAP Add-on package in R/3 MDMP system inorder to support MDMP to Unicode data transfer?
3] If we want to send MATMAS/CLFMAS IDoc with Thai/Japanese characters from same system, what are the changes required at the Source system?
(Source may send MATMAS/CLFMAS IDoc with either Thai/Japanese characters but not both of them in a single IDoc)
4] Can we use regualr ALE & Partner profile settings for handling multi-byte characters or we need to use IDoc collection and RSEOUT002/RSEOUT00_MDMP report for transfer?
5] Is there any restrictions on the IDoc types (MATMAS,CLFMAS etc) supported in MDMP-Unicode integration solution.
5] Is there any best practice document available for this scenario?
6] Do we need to involve SAP AG for MDMP to Unicode system integrations(As per SAP Note: 656350) ?
Thanks and Regards,
Ananth

Hi Ananth,
as you have already mentioned, you need differents RFC destinations for each language. So you have to make sure, that the IDocs use the right destination according to there content.
If you have messages from PI to MDMP it is the same, you need different channels with different logon languages as well. You need an identifier in the message, that can be used for selecting the correct channel.
It should not be a restricting to any IDoc type, but it is not possible to post a message with different languages (which require different codepages) in one IDoc.
For correct conversion from a non unicode system to unicode, the codepages have to be installed in th OS of the PI server.
Regards
Stefan

Open dataset twice once for input and once for output in unicode system

Hi All,
In a program
I used a open dataset to read the data from the file.
OPEN DATASET cmp_file FOR INPUT IN TEXT MODE
ENCODING NON-UNICODE.
Then i closed the file.
Again later in the program,
I used a open dataset to transfer the data.
OPEN DATASET cmp_file FOR OUTPUT IN TEXT MODE
ENCODING NON-UNICODE.
But this time I get sy-subrc = 8.
Unable to open the file and subsequent TRANSFER is leading to the runtime error.
Note : I am using a unicode system
I could run the same program well in non-unicode system..
->
Is it that if a file contains data already
1.I need to delete the data and open it
or
2.I need to open in APPENDING mode manadatorily...
in case of UNICODE system..
Kindly suggest..

Hi,
IF you have write permission al S.O. Level you need to check your DATASET rigths using AUTHORITY_CHECK_DATASET, this validate your rigths with S_DATASET object.
Example
TYPE-POOLS SABC.
CALL FUNCTION 'AUTHORITY_CHECK_DATASET'
EXPORTING PROGRAM = 'ZDATASET'
ACTIVITY = SABC_ACT_READ
FILENAME = '/tmp/sapv01'
EXCEPTIONS NO_AUTHORITY = 1
ACTIVITY_UNKNOWN = 2.
See SABC type pool to know wich activities are aviable.
Hope this help.
Regards

Difference between Unicode systems and Nonunicode system

HI All ,
Kindly let me know the difference between unicode and nonunicode systems , How do we find that ?
Regards
Selvan

Unicode:In /usr/sap/<SID>/sys/exe you will find a UC folder...
Non Unicode: this directory wont be there...
Unicode allows global. access in multiple languages. Refer to http://www.sapdb.org/7.4/htmhelp/db/74d038d35e11d5994400508b6b8b11/content.htm for more details
Another way to find whether a system is unicode or not, In Menu: System->Status->Unicode system: Yes or NO

Line incomaptibilty betwwen RAW and CHAR data types in SAP Unicode System.

Hi Gurus,
I am working in SAP Unicode system.
We have transferred the standard programs for Non-Unicode to Unicode system.
In one standard function module, <table name> is defined in TABLES parameter as a type of TLINE structure, which has two fields - one is 132 length CHAR and other is 2 length CHAR.
In the same function module , one subroutine is being called, for which <table name> is passed.
But in the FORM of subroutine, this table is defined as a type of HLINE, which has only one field - 134 length RAW data type.
So due to confilct in data types ( CHAR and RAW ) , I am getting an error that both data types are not line compatible.
Do i need to use casting concept to remove the error.
Please suggest me the way to handle this.

hi,
declare the table as same data type.
dont go for any other types.
if you still want the form table as HLINE, then before the form call declare a varibale with TLINE data type pass the values to HLINE.
i think this will be little complex, because again it will be type incompatablity.
we can forcefully pass the values to HLINE with a class.
but i think no need, declaring with same data type might be easy.
Thanks
Vinod

Issue with Data flow between Unicode and Non Unicode systems

Hello,
I have scenario as below,
We have a Unicode ECC 6.0 and a UTF 7 Legacy system.
A message flow between Legacy system to ECC 6.0 system and the data is of 700 KB size.
Will there be any issue in this as one is Unicode and other is non Unicode?
Kindly let me know.
Thanks & Regards
Vivek

Hi,
To add to Mike's post...
You indicate that your legacy system is non-Unicode and the ERP system is Unicode. You also said that the data flow is only from the legacy system to the ERP system. In this case, you should have no data issues, since the Unicode system is the receiving system. There are data issues when the data flow is in the other direction: from a Unicode system to a non-Unicode system. Here, the non-Unicode system can only process characters that exist on its codepage and care must be taken from sending systems to ensure that they only send characters that are on the receiving system's codepage (as Mike says above).
Best Regards,
Matt

SM30 and unicode systems

After release upgrade to 5.0 I get dumps when I try to access the contents of a table in SM30.
The new system is unicode. I have heard, that SM30 does not work in unicode systems. Is that true ?
Which transaction should be used then ?

Hi
It's strange...for all tables? have you seen some note?
I know there's a flag to be setted in the attribute of the program.
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Hi,
I am Upgrading SCM 5.0 Non-Unicode System to SCM 5.1 Non-unicode on Windows 2003 Server with MSS 2005 DB. During the initial PREPARE (EXTRACTKRN_PRE) phase I am getting an error like
init
2010/06/15 07:03:45 PREPARE: START OF PHASE EXTRACTKRN_PRE
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KERNEL.TOC'
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The file name it is looking for does not exist in any of the Kernel versions I have checked. If I try to skip this step it is asking for the PASSWORD. How can I get this password? (only from SAP Support or any note?).
What is the Solution for the above ERROR. Please help.
Thanks,
Ajay.

> I am not posting the question in the same group. I am posting in different groups due the confusion of in which group to post > > and of course to get faster response. All people cant check all the groups to answer. Moreover I am not keeping the questions > open. As soon as I get the answer I am proving the answer in every group and immediately closing the question.
> So what is the problem with that? I do not think this is creating any inconvenience to any one, just increasing the number of questions in the group.
This is not wanted as written in the "Rules of engagement". This is a public forum, not a "help desk".
> OK, As you said If I post only in a single group do you guarantee that you will check every time all the groups to answer my question/ find my question?
Again, this is a forum where the question are answered on a volunteered basis. "Demanding" help is not the way to go, you can ask for help but there's no guarantee that you'll get an answer. If you urgently need help use the official support channels or get yourself a consultant on-site who can answer all your question instantly.
> And please paste the URL of those rules that this is wrong. Since I didnt read that.
It's the first entry in every forum, it contains the "Rules of Engagement" which say:
Please do not Cross post.
Post your question in the most appropriate forum; not multiple forums. This is bad netiquette and will might only aggravate potential repliers.
Just imagine if everyone like you would paste questions in several forums.
Markus
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Edited by: Markus Doehr on Jun 15, 2010 5:30 PM

Unable to Open unix file in UNICODE system which created NON-UNICODE system

Unable to Open unix file in UNICODE system which created in NON-UNICODE system
We have two SAP systems both are ECC6.0 but System 1 is NON-Unicode and System2 is Unicode system.
There is a common unix directory/folder for both system.
Our requirement is to create one file on unix common folder and write the data to file from system1 .
In system2 open the same file for appending mode to write the data .
The file in system 1 created with below sentence.
OPEN DATASET g_unix_file FOR OUTPUT IN TEXT MODE ENCODING UTF-8.
Now I have to append the data from system 2 to same file.
I have tried to used below statement in system 2 to open the file but sy-subrc value comes as '8'.
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2>OPEN DATASET g_unix_file FOR APPENDING IN legacy TEXT MODE CODE PAGE
cdp IGNORING CONVERSION ERRORS .
3>OPEN DATASET g_unix_file FOR APPENDING IN TEXT MODE ENCODING Default.
4>OPEN DATASET g_unix_file FOR APPENDING IN TEXT MODE ENCODING NON-UNICODE.
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Hi Guru's,
I am facing one prolem in gui_download. we are doing unicode remediation in one report. In the program one internal table declared as of type c with length 255 and data filled into the internal table by importing the data ifrom cluster. After that this internal table used by ws_download function moduel with file type as BIN to download it in word doc file. We replaced the function module with gui_download. It is working fine in non-unicode system but it is not downloading properly in the unicode system.
i am unable to find what is the cause.. I tried with different different codepages giving in run time..it is not solving my problem.
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Thanks & Regards,
Sastry R
Edited by: Rob Burbank on Dec 13, 2010 9:39 AM

Hi Clemens.
I replaced the ws_download function module with gui_download.
here is my code
Earlier before 6.0 code as follows
CALL FUNCTION 'WS_DOWNLOAD'
 EXPORTING
 bin_filesize = data_len
 filename = p_file
 filetype = 'BIN'
 TABLES
 data_tab = data_tab
 EXCEPTIONS
 file_open_error = 1
 file_write_error = 2
 invalid_filesize = 3
 invalid_table_width = 4
 invalid_type = 5
 no_batch = 6
 unknown_error = 7
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 OTHERS = 9.
IF sy-subrc <> 0 AND no_error_dlg = space.
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ENDIF.
Replaced above with following code
DATA:lv_fname TYPE string,
 lv_ftype(10) VALUE 'BIN',
 lv_codepage type abap_encod VALUE '4102'.
CALL METHOD cl_gui_frontend_services=>gui_download
 EXPORTING
 bin_filesize = data_len
 filename = lv_fname
 filetype = lv_ftype
 codepage = lv_codepage
 CHANGING
 data_tab = data_tab
 EXCEPTIONS
 file_write_error = 1
 no_batch = 2
 gui_refuse_filetransfer = 3
 invalid_type = 4
 no_authority = 5
 unknown_error = 6
 header_not_allowed = 7
 separator_not_allowed = 8
 filesize_not_allowed = 9
 header_too_long = 10
 dp_error_create = 11
 dp_error_send = 12
 dp_error_write = 13
 unknown_dp_error = 14
 access_denied = 15
 dp_out_of_memory = 16
 disk_full = 17
 dp_timeout = 18
 file_not_found = 19
 dataprovider_exception = 20
 control_flush_error = 21
 not_supported_by_gui = 22
 error_no_gui = 23
 OTHERS = 24.
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 MESSAGE i002(sy) WITH text-i03. "FILE OPEN ERROR
ENDIF.
I tried with all othr code pages also like 4110/4103/1110/1100/1102. It is not working,
It is giving problem in unicode system. File is downloading.but not properly..
and when i am opening the word file it is asking me select encoding type to make document readble along with the available text encoding formats.
Please help me..
Thanks & Regards,
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GUI_DOWNLOAD problems with CR+LF when transfering from unicode system

Hi,
I was successfuly used FM GUI_DOWNLOAD in a non-unicode systems for years. Lately I faced a challenge to rewrite my code for a unicode system. The configuration is:
- SAP R/3 unicode system;
- data to be downloaded at presentation server in a non-unicode codepage (cp 9504).
I have successfuly used a GUI_DOWNLOAD-parameter CODEPAGE and the data is translated correctly when checking local file, but due to some reasons CRLF are replaced with '#' (which is default value of REPLACEMENT parameter of this function) - means at the end of each row as a result I have '##' instead of CRLF.
My question is: how can I force correct behaviour of GUI_DOWNLOAD in order to get my output file at presentation server with CR+LF?
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ivaylo Mutafchiev
SAP/ABAP consultant
VBS Ltd.
P.S. In order to find some other way to fix my problem I'm still playing with the instanciation of a CL_ABAP_CONV_OBJ and its methods create & convert, but without success for now - resulted strings are not as expected.

Hi,
in fact, I never placed CRLF in my lines before your suggestion. The rest was done by the FM 'GUI_DOWNLOAD'. It works fine even when I use unicode file as output - means I got my CRLF at the end of the record in MY OUTPUT FILE ONLY but not in my internal table - I never placed CR+LF in there.
The problem occures when I tried to use GUI_DOWNLOAD with parameter CODEPAGE = '9504' (some non-unicode codepage), and the original data (my internal table) is in unicode. Then (in my opinion) this function doesn't translate the unicoded CR+LF into non-unicode ones (if thats possible at all, I can't be sure) and the result is '##' in the output file.
I checked the value of CL_ABAP_CHAR_UTILITIES=>CR_LF by getting it in my variable - and it is '##'.
Whet should I put into this class-attribute in order to get it working in this scenario? I have no idea...
The attribute type is ABAP_CR_LF - which is char 2.
What next?
Thanks,
Ivaylo

Create PDF with CONVERT_OTF in Unicode system

Hi,
I try to create a PDF file from OTF input with function module CONVERT_OTF.
It worked in a non-unicode environment with problems.
If I use the same coding in a unicode system (6.0) and OTF input
contains real doublebyte unicode characters like arabian/greek characters,
the PDF file shows wrong characters like "ÔÑÙàÜÐÕÞÙ Ôâé" instead of
"רבדל הצור %לועה" or "ЉЊЋЌЎЏАБВГόψχΩΨΧ".
I enable the developer trace for CONVERT_OTF, but the trace also
shows the correct unicode characters.
If I create a PDF file with PDF Creater with the same input on my computer,
PDF file looks fine. SAP PDF file uses Font enconding 'Windows', PDF Creator
uses a 'Custom' font encoding.
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I install TrueType fonts like described in SAP note 999712 with no success,
but this note refers to SAP_BASIS 011, which is not yet available on SAP Marketplace
(latest is 010 today).
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Print preview from other SAP transactions looks fine with unicode characters.
thanks for help
/Tibor

>
Juraj Danko wrote:
> Hi,
> I have similar problem than you ... how have you solved it?
> thanks
> Juraj
I found a solution, but I am not sure, if it was for this problem or
output problem with for example PL in non-unicode systems.
I created the input for CONVERT_OTF with CALL FUNCTION 'PRINT_TEXT'.
PRINT_TEXT has to be called with DEVICE = 'PRINTER',
DEVICE = 'ABAP' uses internally the wrong code page.
You have also to set otf_options-tdprinter to a valid printer,
if it is empty, the default printer from user settings is used.
You can use code example from SAP note 413295.
Before you call CONVERT_OTF, you can also check entries with 'FC' in OTF input.
The font (see description of OTF format in SAP help) must be set like described in SAP note 144718.
/Tibor
Edited by: Tibor Gerke on Jan 13, 2011 10:29 AM

Export / Import   to memory Id 2 . ( Unicode System)

hi all ,
we get unicode syntax error for the statement
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Error discription is -
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We get similar error in import statement as well.
Please refer this code ..........
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         reparatur(08) TYPE p,
         zaehlerstand(16),
         maxprod(08) TYPE p,
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         netto-gesamt(07) TYPE p,
         ausschuss-gesamt(07) TYPE p,
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Unicode systems have a problem in that you can't define stuff as type X. Structures also have to be properly "bounded". You can also no longer rely on code such as field1+7(9) .
You could define your structure as a STRING and delimit the fields with say a tab symbol ( use the attribute in cl_abap_utilities to get the tab char in a unicode system).
export the string to memory.
on the import end use the SPLIT command on the string to re-create your data elements.
You will then have to manage the decimal arithmetic yourself.
It's a pain - but that's largely the point of Unicode --everything is treated as TYPE C.
Structures containing anything other than type C data are also a real problem if you want to upload / download data. Handling Binary files is a nightmare.
There are some SAP supplied utilities / notes / documentations on converting to a Unicode system.
Cheers
jimbo

Problem with Mail-Attachments in an Unicode-Systems

Hi everybody,
we have a problem mailing a attachment by using the class CL_DOCUMENT_BCS in a Unicode system, WAS 7.0
We attach a textfile using the method
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        EXPORTING
          i_attachment_type    = lv_extension
          i_attachment_subject = lv_dateiname
          i_att_content_text   = oti_object.
The mail should have a TXT-file in ASCII.
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However with WORDPAD and other applications, all german characters are two bytes, so it seems to be in a UTF-8 format.
Is it possible to say the class, that the attachment should be ASCII?
Regards,
Stefan

Hi,
Try to use
try.
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endtry.
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