Unknown User Permissions - Erase and Install Backup Plan

Hi everyone,
I upgraded from Tiger and therefore have the unknown user permissions problems. I'd like to erase and install my system and am writing to verify the following:
If I copy my data (with the funny permissions) to a Powerbook in Firewire Disk Mode, reinstall Leopard on my new iMac, then copy the data back from the Powerbook in disk target mode, will the permissions be fixed?
Thank you, Tom Bertram.

Thomas,
If you are talking about the "unknown" group problem seen in the permissions portion of Get Info, be aware that Apple is in the process of putting out a Knowledge Base article to address this and it may be wise to be patient a little longer.
The user accounts inherited from Tiger belong to a "group" that has a missing piece of information -- a group name that Leopard wants. The installer should have dealt with this but it didn't. Anyway, a couple of simple Terminal commands can fix this for each such account. Once the Group description is proper, there will no longer be any need to change the group membership of your files.
Unfortunately the first couple tries Apple made of describing how to do this appear to be in error. See the following thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1280472&tstart=0
The correct commands should be posted by Apple shortly and then you can resolve this without having to do a whole re-install.
--Bob

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    4/20/09 1:20:53 PM com.apple.configureLocalKDC[57] Subject Name :
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    4/20/09 1:20:53 PM com.apple.configureLocalKDC[57] Not Before : 20:20:53 Apr 20, 2009
    4/20/09 1:20:53 PM com.apple.configureLocalKDC[57] Not After : 20:20:53 Apr 15, 2029
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    4/20/09 1:20:53 PM com.apple.configureLocalKDC[57] Other field: : OID : < 06 0C 60 86 48 01 86 F8 4D 02 01 01 01 17 >
    4/20/09 1:20:53 PM com.apple.configureLocalKDC[57] Other field: : OID : < 06 0C 60 86 48 01 86 F8 4D 02 01 01 01 16 >
    4/20/09 1:20:53 PM com.apple.configureLocalKDC[57] Extension struct : OID : < 06 03 55 1D 25 >
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    4/20/09 1:20:56 PM com.apple.configureLocalKDC[57] Other field: : OID : < 06 0C 60 86 48 01 86 F8 4D 02 01 01 01 16 >
    4/20/09 1:20:56 PM com.apple.configureLocalKDC[57] Extension struct : OID : < 06 03 55 1D 25 >
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    * ACTIVITY MONITOR ALL PROCESSES *
    Active Memory: 755.22 MB
    Free Memory: 2.76 GB
    Wired Memory: 438.53 MB
    Used Memory: 1.24 GB
    Inactive Memory: 71.50 MB
    Total VM: 38.07 GB
    Number of processes: 58
    ID Process Name User CPU RSIZE VSIZE
    0 kernel_task root 3.5 74.77 MB 1.74 GB
    1 launchd root 0.0 556.00 KB 586.74 MB
    10 kextd root 0.0 1.28 MB 586.19 MB
    11 notifyd root 0.0 476.00 KB 586.17 MB
    12 syslogd root 0.0 460.00 KB 587.24 MB
    14 ntpd root 0.0 864.00 KB 586.12 MB
    15 usbmuxd _usbmuxd 0.0 944.00 KB 587.46 MB
    16 update root 0.0 288.00 KB 585.57 MB
    17 SystemStarter root 0.0 680.00 KB 585.61 MB
    20 securityd root 0.0 2.16 MB 587.43 MB
    23 mds root 0.0 13.52 MB 64.70 MB
    24 mDNSResponder _mdnsrespo 0.0 1.21 MB 587.49 MB
    25 loginwindow ianmac 0.0 5.92 MB 787.90 MB
    26 KernelEventAgent root 0.0 652.00 KB 585.68 MB
    28 hidd root 0.0 600.00 KB 586.12 MB
    29 fseventsd root 0.0 1.38 MB 592.71 MB
    31 dynamic_pager root 0.0 608.00 KB 585.61 MB
    33 diskarbitrationd root 0.0 1,016.00 KB 585.69 MB
    34 DirectoryService root 0.0 3.93 MB 21.80 MB
    36 configd root 0.0 1.89 MB 587.20 MB
    39 autofsd root 0.0 672.00 KB 585.62 MB
    41 socketfilterfw root 0.0 2.29 MB 585.93 MB
    44 distnoted daemon 0.0 792.00 KB 585.59 MB
    45 portmap daemon 0.0 360.00 KB 585.62 MB
    46 coreservicesd root 0.0 16.61 MB 38.91 MB
    49 blued root 0.0 1.96 MB 596.99 MB
    55 WindowServer _windowser 16.6 68.21 MB 864.35 MB
    76 launchd ianmac 0.0 532.00 KB 585.74 MB
    93 hpusbmond root 0.0 784.00 KB 586.77 MB
    101 HPIO Trap Monito root 0.0 1.43 MB 588.07 MB
    106 AirPort Base Station Agen ianmac 0.0 5.35 MB 2.75 GB
    110 Spotlight ianmac 0.0 3.98 MB 731.96 MB
    111 UserEventAgent ianmac 0.0 3.19 MB 598.84 MB
    112 Dock ianmac 0.0 9.99 MB 782.59 MB
    114 Finder ianmac 0.0 38.39 MB 322.15 MB
    115 ATSServer ianmac 0.0 5.17 MB 638.64 MB
    116 pboard ianmac 0.0 588.00 KB 586.61 MB
    119 coreaudiod root 0.0 2.39 MB 588.91 MB
    123 HP Event Handler ianmac 0.0 2.91 MB 721.91 MB
    125 iTunes Helper ianmac 0.0 2.43 MB 730.67 MB
    136 AppleSpell.service ianmac 0.0 3.63 MB 601.72 MB
    306 Console ianmac 0.0 23.08 MB 847.61 MB
    572 Safari ianmac 5.8 159.05 MB 1.11 GB
    704 Terminal ianmac 0.0 6.18 MB 797.03 MB
    798 Activity Monitor ianmac 15.7 21.17 MB 867.06 MB
    799 pmTool root 1.4 1.39 MB 595.69 MB
    988 SystemUIServer ianmac 0.1 12.73 MB 233.25 MB
    1159 TextEdit ianmac 0.0 9.45 MB 814.12 MB
    1418 cupsd root 0.0 1.91 MB 586.87 MB
    2226 Mail ianmac 0.0 41.83 MB 850.06 MB
    2361 helpdatad ianmac 0.0 8.14 MB 603.46 MB
    2718 Photosmart _lp 0.0 25.29 MB 689.89 MB
    2719 usb _lp 0.0 764.00 KB 586.62 MB
    2804 Network Utility ianmac 0.0 8.91 MB 798.14 MB
    2815 pppd root 0.0 1.62 MB 587.00 MB
    2859 Directory Utility ianmac 0.0 15.32 MB 822.47 MB
    2868 Help Viewer ianmac 0.0 9.70 MB 798.31 MB
    3118 mdworker ianmac 0.0 2.04 MB 598.43 MB
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    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xA050D720] -
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xA050D720] - DirectoryService 5.7 (v514.25) starting up...
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0185000] - Plugin <Cache>, Version <1.0>, processed successfully.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0185000] - Plugin <Configure>, Version <3.0>, processed successfully.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0185000] - Plugin <Local>, Version <1.1>, processed successfully.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0185000] - Plugin <LDAPv3>, Version <3.1>, processed successfully.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0185000] - Plugin <Search>, Version <3.1>, processed successfully.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0185000] - Plugin <BSD>, Version <2.0>, processed successfully.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB030B000] - Registered node /Configure
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB030B000] - Plug-in Configure state is now active.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB040F000] - Plug-in LDAPv3 state is now inactive.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB038D000] - Registered Locally Hosted Node /Local/Default
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB038D000] - Registered node /Local/Default
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0513000] - Registered Locally Hosted Node /BSD/local
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0513000] - Registered node /BSD/local
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0513000] - Plug-in BSD state is now active.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB038D000] - Plug-in Local state is now active.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0491000] - Registered node /Search
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0491000] - Registered node /Search/Contacts
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0491000] - Registered node /Search/Network
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0491000] - Plug-in Search state is now active.
    2009-07-05 03:39:57 PDT - T[0xB0420000] - Local Plugin - index passed integrity check
    2009-07-05 03:39:58 PDT - T[0xB0289000] - BSD Plugin - index passed integrity check
    2009-07-05 03:39:58 PDT - T[0xB0289000] - Registered node /Cache
    2009-07-05 03:39:58 PDT - T[0xB0289000] - Plug-in Cache state is now active.
    2009-07-05 03:39:58 PDT - T[0xB0185000] - Plugin "Active Directory", Version "1.6.5", is set to load lazily.
    2009-07-05 03:39:58 PDT - T[0xB0185000] - Plugin "PasswordServer", Version "4.0.3", is set to load lazily.
    2009-07-05 04:12:10 PDT - T[0xB0081000] - Network transition occurred.
    2009-07-05 04:12:11 PDT - T[0xB0081000] - Network transition occurred.
    2009-07-05 04:16:03 PDT - T[0xB0103000] - Plugin "Active Directory", Version "1.6.5", loaded on demand successfully.
    2009-07-05 04:16:03 PDT - T[0xB0103000] - Plug-in Active Directory state is now inactive.
    2009-07-05 07:54:25 PDT - T[0xB0081000] - Network transition occurred.
    2009-07-05 07:54:25 PDT - T[0xB0081000] - Network transition occurred.
    2009-07-05 08:22:22 PDT - T[0xA050D720] - Sleep Notification occurred.
    2009-07-05 08:53:59 PDT - T[0xA050D720] - Will Power On (Wake) Notification occurred.
    2009-07-05 09:03:31 PDT - T[0xB0081000] - Network transition occurred.
    2009-07-05 09:03:31 PDT - T[0xB0081000] - Network transition occurred.
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    Please post back with further questions or comments.
    Good luck.
    cornelius
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