Unlinking copies of Indesign Books

I have an InDesign CS6 Book. I need to use "Save Book As" to make a copy of it, and I need to slightly expand the trim size of the new copy for a different use. I don't want this change to happen in the old copy. I notice that changes you make to one book's documents are reflected in copies of that book. How do I turn this off and "unlink" the two copies? Thank you.

Either make a new .indb file and add the copies of the prioginal compoent files files to it (and delete the copied .indb file so you don't accidentally use it and change something you didn't intend to change). or Package the book to make a copy of everything and automatically update the links in the package to the new copies automatically.

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Copies of Indesign books works different on MAC and PC ?

Hello everyone,
i try to follow many discussion about how to create a clean copy of an Indesign book indb (with different chapters which are individual indesign files) with no link to the old one.
I found many tricks like changing the name of the original folder or packaging the book for print, but i'm not really satisfy by this way.
The first way forced me to change the name of the original file each time i want to make a clean copy and the second way will not keep the structure of my folder and subfolders which are not included in the package.
It seems the real concern is more about how Indesign is able to manage absolute and relative path, and i also found some people asking Indesign only works with absolute path.
But, after many trials on Mac and PC, i was so surprised to check that on my MAC, thinks are working very well, when i make a copy of the original book folder exactly in the same location, the copy is not linked to the original file (that's what i want) !!!
But on PC it doesn't, the copy of the book is still linked to the original files.
Can someone tell me the difference between MAC and PC ?
Is it an option in Indesign to change that ? or is it related to th OS file system ?
Thanks a lot.
Daté

Hi Peter,
I opened the two books in indesign to compare the paths of the files in the books.
I just simply move the mouse over the indesign file in the book panel to check the path that appears in the yellow tooltip.
For example :
for the original BOOK_TECH.indb, the path of the file Trims.indd in the DOC_TECH folder is : /Users/UserName/Documents/DOC_TECH/MAIN_FILES/Trims.indd
for the copy BOOK_TECH.indb, the path of the file Trims.indd in the DOC_TECH2 folder is : /Users/UserName/Documents/DOC_TECH2/MAIN_FILES/Trims.indd
Another way to be sure of what i'm saying here is to open the file trims.indd in the original book and the same file in the copy. You will get 2 different files opened in Indesign with the same name of course.
I also try with a Mac book pro running MAC OS X 10.6.5, but it doesn't work (you will get the link to the original one). It seems to work or not, depending the OS
i'm curious to know why it is working on MacOS x 10.9 and not 10.6 and windows. Maybe there is a way to fix it with the OS settings ?
If you have the right answer, just let me know, because it could help a lot of people.
Thanks a lot.
Daté

How can I generate printer spreads when using an Indesign Book?

Our design team utilizes the Indesign Book feature to tackle magazine design. This convenient feature has become part of our workflow for both print and dps versions of the content since we do not work in the same locations yet share design responsibility. We're able to see when someone else is working in a "chapter" and keep our overall content synced.
Is there a way from the Indesign Book palette to generate a pdf that is in printer's spreads? The export options included within the Book Palette appear geared to reader spreads only. It seems the only automated option is to work from 1 large Indesign file and use the File > Print Booklet option. Is there a better solution that is geared more toward the Indesign Book user that offers the same outcome without a lot of manual work?

I usually (when needed as sometimes is) export the entire book to a PDF using the pdf settings- bleeds etc. but I don't include inside bleeds.
I then create a new document the original size - and use the MultiPage importer script http://indesignsecrets.com/zanelli-releases-multipageimporter-for-importing-both-pdf-and-i ndd-files.php
You can then offset the PDF to the bleed using a negative value in the placement options (it's tricky to get the hang of this so try a few pages first)
Then I can use File>Print Booklet and Choose PDF.
It's a hack and a half but it can work - but I'd never send this particular file to a printers to be printed.
As always - be careful.

Has anyone experienced 'Parent' & 'Child' TOC (bookmark version) issues, when using an InDesign Book to create a fixed format ePub3?

Hello,
I'm using the latest versions of AdobeCC and Indesign on the mac to generate fixed format ePub3 files.
I have an Indesign Book which is comprised of 9 documents (chapters). When I create a bookmark based Table Of Contents, I'm finding that I'm having trouble getting the 'parent' and 'child' hierarchy perfect. This is because some 'child' bookmarks need to be under the 'parent' of one document within my book, and yet I need to add the bookmark from a different document (or chapter).
In essence, I'm asking is there a way of having a 'child' bookmark in one document, nestled under a 'parent' on a different document within my InDesign book? All I seem to get are repeats of the 'parent' rather than it looking at all of the documents and synching them.
In the screenshot below (the larger circle), I have added sharks as a parent folder in one 'document/chapter', and then later on in the book (in a different document/chapter, another shark needs to be added to the list under the sharks parent, and yet it doesn't give me the option to add it as a Child to sharks. I created another sharks parent in this later document thinking I might be able to synch across all documents, but all it seems to do is create a duplicate.
Any help appreciated!
Thanks, Joe

Just thought that a much better way of phrasing what I initially asked would be: Is there is a way to synchronize bookmarks across all documents in a book?
Thanks
Joe

Create Indesign book from paths in an excel sheet

Hello All
I have started to learn some scripting, and want to know if it is possible to read information from Excel sheet? In this case it is paths to Ind files.
Today we are working with several documents which we compile into a book, this to create custom-made manuals for our customers. The script I'm looking for or will try to create will use these paths from the excel sheet to compile an Indesign book.
Any tips where I can find information about similar tasks.
Please respond

Thanks for your advices.
So if I understood it right it is impossible for Java or VB through Indesign to access information located within sheets in an Excel document. That is too bad.
We don't have the possibility to convert the .xls to for example .csv, becouse of .csv does not support more than one sheet. An SQL database could be a possible solution, but this shouldn’t either work?
What I don’t really understand is why you can merge information from an excel sheet into an Indesign page, but not collect strings from an excel sheet when running a script.

Use the new functionality "multiple page size" in an indesign book

I've creating an indesign book, in wich one chapter has a different (bigger /A3) page size. Indesign creates the book in pdf using the bigger page size, and do not use the real page size of every chapters. Why?
Thanks for help !

You might get better results in the ID forum just a few doors down.
InDesign

Exporting Indesign book to single page PDFs

Hi,
I'm after a script that will enable me to select an entire Indesign book and export it as separate individual PDFs in one go.
I know there are a few scripts that either export the book into chapters or export the .indd files to separate single PDFs, but nothing that will do everything in one action. (i.e. take the book and output all the individual pages as single PDFs)
Has anyone written a script like this or is it easy to tweak an existing script?
BTW I have no scripting knowlege whatsoever.
Thank you again
Scott
These are the two scripts I was refering to:
http://www.kahrel.plus.com/indesign/pdf_individuals.html
http://indesignsecrets.com/page-exporter-utility-peu-5-script-updated-for-cs3.php

RichardM0701, are you the same person as scottbentley?
I fear your response doesn't make a lot of sense. The easiest way is to put your files into a book, which will not harm them. The easiest script is often no script at all.
I don't understand your comment about separate text boxes, files contain text boxes and definitionally multiple files means multiple separate text boxes.
I do not know what you are referring to with respect to the toc update, perhaps you could reference a particular command or script, or provide a screenshot.
It sounds like now you are interested in updating multiple tables of contents in a single fell swoop -- this would appear to have nothing to do with the original question. If that's the case, please start a new thread.

Why does CS6 InDesign Book epub output generate and apply new graf and character style names in CSS?

I created an InDesign book composed of documents that had had no paragraph or character styles in the palettes until text was copied over from a single overall document. I worked absolutely as clean as I could.
I synchronized the book to that single overall document several times, including immediately before exporting the book to epub. My export settings disallowed any local formatting. Character styles were restricted to one named "Italic" for which the only format applied was Italic in the Font Style field, and one named "Small Caps" for which NO formatting was included in the character style.
There was, as far as I can see, no reason for any character or paragraph styles to export to anything but identically-named CSS entries. That is to say, any text with the character style "Italic" applied in the InDesign doc should have output with the same text with a span class entry of "Italic" around it.
I still ended up with p and span CSS entries with extra numbers appended to them:
span.Italic {
font-style:italic;
font-weight:normal;}
span.Small-Caps-1 {
font-variant:normal;}
span.Italic-1 {
font-style:italic;
font-weight:normal;}
span.Small-Caps-2 {
font-variant:normal;}
span.Italic-2 {font-style:italic;
font-weight:normal;}
span.Small-Caps-3 {
font-variant:normal;}
span.Italic-3 {
font-style:italic;
font-weight:normal;}
and
p.x-SECTION-BREAK, p.x-SECTION-BREAK-1, p.x-SECTION-BREAK-2, p.x-SECTION-BREAK-3 and so on.
Why would the InDesign epub output engine choose to generate and apply new spans and paragraph-level styles, which multiply the complexity of editing the CSS directly? How can I prevent InDesign from doing this?

Perhaps I wasn't clear. When I wrote "an InDesign book composed of documents that had had no paragraph or character styles in the palettes until text was copied over from a single overall document" I meant to emphasize the part where I CLEARLY said "UNTIL text was copied over." The text I copied over had plenty of paragraph styles. I was trying to point out that each individual document had no PREVIOUSLY EXISTING character or paragraph styles that might have added complexity to the epub output. .
So, every paragraph in each document had a paragraph style attached, a total of maybe 20 different paragraph styles throughout the book. The only CHARACTER LEVEL styles I cared about exporting were Italic, for text that was set in italic, and Small Caps, for CAPITALIZED text that I wanted to be able to make smaller in the CSS, since I am not allowed to embed fonts and therefore have no other way of creating small caps in the xhtml files inside the epub.
So, given that I had two character styles applied to various bits of text throughout my InDesign book ("Italic" and "Small Caps"), I would like to know why there are multiple CSS entries generated: Italic, Italic-1, Italic-2, Small Caps, Small Caps-1, Small Caps-2, and so on.
Ditto paragraph styles. I had a paragraph style called "SECTION BREAK" in each document. Not only did paragraph style "SECTION BREAK" contain identical specs in each document--I know they did because I copied each from one single doc where they were being used identically--but I also synchronized the book repeatedly. So why would the xhtml docs and the CSS output need p.x-SECTION-BREAK-1, p.x-SECTION-BREAK-2, and p.x-SECTION-BREAK-3?

Export an alternate layout from a indesign book

Hello,
I'm working on a big file, which has been, for size reasons, separated in multiple files that have then been assembled in an indesign book
Problem: This document is edited for print and also as an interactive pdf for ipad, which is why I have created an alternate layout for the ipad version, which contains a navigation based on hyperlinks, linking different pages and documents from the Book.
But here is the thing, when exporting the whole book to pdf (using the Indesign Book panel), I can't choose the layout I want to export, as I can do when I export from a single document with several alternate layouts
What I get when I export from a single file with two alternate layouts to interactive pdf
What I get when I export the Indesign Book with two alternate layouts to an interative pdf
Why is that? Is there a way I can export only one layout without having to RE-assemble the whole document into one file?
If I export the whole book as it is, my two alternate layouts are just following each other and it's a big mess, not to mention the hyperlinks don't work anymore.
Also, if the only way is to make one file, the file is then too heavy to be worked with, it's 280 pages long, with HD images on every page ( and the alternate layouts double the pages...)
Does anyone have a solution?

You mean, breaking the document into two or three files and then exporting each of these and then assembling the pdf files?
But then the hyperlinks from one doc to another don't work. I tried it already.
The problem is that I need to export ALL of these documents into ONE pdf because of the interactivity of the hyperlinks.

EPub export using just a range of pages from inDesign Book

I've created an ePub Fixed Layout ebook from inDesign 2014.1. I now want to create a summary book for Apple's iBook store, using pages from multiple chapters.
I know the ePub export dialog has an "Export Range" panel in the "General" tab. When you export from a single inDesign Document, you can either leave it as "All Pages" or chose a Page Range. However, I have an inDesign Book, with a inDesign document per chapter.
When I do the ePub "Fixed Layout" export, I come to this panel and the option to select a Page Range is disabled, so I can't specify the pages I want. The pages are numbered to follow on from chapter to chapter.
So, it looks to me like exporting to ePub from an inDesign Book will only allow you to create an ebook from ALL of the pages of the inDesign Book?
I'd really like to create a summary from multiple chapters, so any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Bill

Hi Bill,
Page range for export can only be selected when exporting a document to Fixed Layout ePub. It cannot be done when exporting book to Fixed Layout ePub.
Regards
-Anshul

Indesign book files making a PDF with spreads????

Hi, I am working with a book file but need to make a digital PDF with spreads. So the problem is obviously that I start with a right single page and finish with a left single page in each chapter which doesn't make a spread. Is there a way around this? (apart from copy and pasting the single pages at each beginning and ending together as spreads into an empty document and replacing these pages in the PDF)
Thanks

Re: Indesign book files making a PDF with spreads????
When you make the pdf of the book from the book panel.
Create a new document call it filenamespreads or something.
Get the PDFplacer.jsx script http://indesignsecrets.com/placing-all-the-pages-of-a-pdf-inside-indesign.php
Run a few pages to get the position right, then do the whole book.
Export to pdf as spreads.
It sounds longwinded but it isn't.
@Eugene--
This is the closest answer to solving my problem.
To clarify, the reason I need spreads is NOT for final printing. Its for sending a reader proof to a client to send to someone for review. They need to see it as spreads to get a "feel" for the book. I feel like it should be possible to do this, easily, without too much stress in InDesign.
I am going to try your solution but I am a newbie about using scripts in InDesign. Never done it before. I placed the script in the scripts folder and re-launched InDesign, but how do I launch the script?
Thanks!
Oh, and I should have specified before, I'm using CS2.

Have problem to order copies of the Book just completed in iPhoto

     My first venture at making a book in iPhoto with family pictures, has, once I understood the practical business of getting pictures organised, been very successful, so I clicked on the "Buy" button and thereafter my efforts to order 3 copies of the book have failed miserably.
     Problem is related to my address. I have lived in France for over 20 years, and although my Mac language and software is predominately English, thought my order would go to Apple France, however I was presented with an address format which explicitely stated "United Kingdom" and would not recognise French postal codes, for the "ship to" address. I couldn't find an alternative, so I had to give up. There doesn't seem to be a way to change from the UK system. The cost is in Sterling, which is not a problem, but delivery from the UK is likely to be several days longer than from within France.
     If all Book processing for Europe is done in the UK, that's fine, but it would help if the system recognised French postal code formats and the my address did not have 'United Kingdom' as a fixture.
     I have probably missed some instruction in the system, but I would appreciate help as to what to do next. (I would rather not have to start again sorting pictures)
          with many thanks for a solution
          Eric Dalzell

iPhoto Menu ->
Preferences ->
Advanced ->
Print Products Store: Select France

Downloading InDesign book files from Creative Cloud files

Gang,
I'm working on a project that has me using the Creative Cloud files to store the changes I make. I know I'm not using all of the features, but with my own personal account on two machines and my employers site license on the other, I end up using the browser version of Creative Cloud to upload and download files on my work computer.
When I download a book file (.indb), Creative Cloud and my browser seem to get confused as to what kind of file it is. Creative Cloud asks me and doesn't have an option for InDesign Book. When it downloads, it downloads as a .octet-stream file. I later go to Finder and change the extension to indb and life is good.
Is this a bug or a feature?
Warren BIngham

This is a bug. Will update this thread once it is fixed.

How can I import Apple/Pages typescript into inDesign Book design?

How can I import typscript created in Apple/Pages into inDesign book layout?

@annsymes – other than copy/paste?
If you inspect the preferences for the Clipboard in InDesign you could toggle between formatted text or non-formatted text when pasting from different applications. Don't know, if that will make a difference in your case.
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Create TOC javascript for indesign book

Hi friends,
i am new to indesign javascript. i want to create a javascript for TOC indesign book using paragrph style
could anyone help me. i am strugling long time.

"It didn't work for me" doesn't work for me. Always, always, always, state why it doesn't work for you.
Did you try to use it, but could not get it to work?
Or, do you need to do something special that the built-in function does not do?
It should not be extremely hard to make a javascript version that does (roughly) the same. You could try something like this:
For every paragraph style you want to include (most likely all sorts of headings),
Search for all occurrences, and store the text, its page number, and (important!) its story offset in an array.
You need the text because that's what will appear in the TOC.
You need the page number because, well, that's what the TOC is for :-)
Most important: you need the story offset so you can reconstitute the original order of the headings. You can only search for one level of heading at a time, so without sorting, you would get "Heading 1 -- Heading 1 -- Heading 1 -- Heading 2 -- Heading 2 -- Heading 2" (etc.)
When you have gathered all of the information for your entire book, sort on story offset. (I forgot, it's for a Book, right? You need to store a document id as well, so you can sort throughout multiple documents.) (See Ed.)
Then write out every text in the right order, followed by its page number.
The IndexMatic script that Marc points out should already contains lots of the logic described here -- esp. searching and storing page numbers.
[Ed.] Thinking about it, a Book (multiple documents) should *not* cause any problems, and you don't need to know in which document some text was found. Simply sort the paragraphs on their page number; only when these are the same for more than one paragraph, sort just these on their Story Offset. Logically, there should not be two headers with the same page number in two different documents.

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