Unplanned Del Cost during MIRO - VAT gets recalculated.

Hello all

Scenario:
I have an invoice for procured items with VAT.
The unplanned del costs are configured to load onto material.
I enter the UDC (unplanned delivery costs) in the header and they get distributed proportionally among invoice items.
However my VAT value gets recalculated taking into account the UDC amount.
We now distribute the UDC manually among the items in the invoice in the Material tab. This way the VAT amount is not recaculated.
However this is a long process when the number of items in the invoice are large
and the UDC per item have to be calculated manually.
Requirement
I want to enter UDC in the header so that it distributes the amount among the items and not have VAT recalculated
Thank you
S Datar

Dear Satyajit,
This is standard functionality of SAP. The logic SAP follows as below:
(1) Unplanned delivery cost that needs to be posted during invoice verification gets apportioned to the base values of line items considered for invoice verification
(2) Since the Tax is always calculated on the base values of the line items, the tax also calculated on apportioned unplanned delivery cost.
(3) There are no Configuration or User exits available to avoid calculation of tax on unplanned delivery cost.
My workaround solutions / suggestions to meet your requirements of loading unplanned delivery costs to material value as below:
(1) Posting unplanned delivery costs directly to Material value. This is achieved by allowing direct posting to Article at MIRO.
(2) Post-unplanned delivery costs as subsequent debit memo using MIRO. Here, you can choose the relevant tax code based on the requirement
Hope this info will be useful.
Bye,
Muralidhara

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i have material cost,unplanned cost
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account while posting.
but in my case it is taking the unplanned del cost also for calculation
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1. without having the Config made ( in OMR2)
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I just want to know "should we stop the users to do the mistakes in future (our user is saying - the SAP has given the option, hence we must use this). Our user is saying that he is not aware of the freight amount at the time of PO creation, hence he will not enter the freight value in the Purchase Order and will use the Unplanned delivery costs for entering the freight always.
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>
PK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In what scenario we use "Unplanned delivery costs" in MIRO.
>
> We created the Purchase Order and did the goods receipts.
At the time of Vendor Invoicing, we came to know that
we forgot to enter freight value in the Purchase Order.
We don't want to reverse the goods receipt, and
we want to rectify the error in the MIRO. What is the best way to do this.
> I have explored the various possibility in MIRO like,
>
> a. putting freight amount in Unplanned delivery costs of Details tab.
> b. putting the freight amount directly in the G/L (below in the G/L Account tab).
>
> I just want to know "should we stop the users to do the
mistakes in future (our user is saying - the SAP has given the option,
hence we must use this). *Our user is saying that he is
not aware of the freight amount at the time of PO creation,
hence he will not enter the freight value in the
Purchase Order and will use the Unplanned
delivery costs for entering the freight always*.
>
> Regards,
> PK
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the screen shot i sent is also of 4.7E
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Thank you for contacting SAP Global Support Center.
It seems you're posting the planned and unplanned delivery cost
simultaneously.
The planned delivery cost and unplanned delivery cost cannot be invoicedtogether when only freight cost is being invoiced.
Unplanned delivery cost and planned delivery cost can be invoiced
together only when you invoice both goods and freight cost.
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unplanned delivery cost, the system behavior is designed such a way thatit can be invoiced along with goods only. Both options which we have
given behave similarly except for the posting to account.
Therefore, your system behavior is as per standard design and there
is no error in your system. For this functionality there are no other
workarounds too.
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posted to a seperate G/L account rather than distributed amongs line
items.
SPRO
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>>Logistics Invoice Verification
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