Unplanned delivery cost to material through G/L account during Invoicing

Hi,
We have a problem of capturing unplanned delivery cost to material
The scenario is as follows
We are not sure of few conditional value's during Purchase Order creation.
We come to know only during Invoice verification,
These conditions might be many, like labor Charges,Unloading Charges etc which should go to material.
Though we can post it to material directly with reference to PO,we will not be knowing the purpose of posting,as the client wants the complete landed cost including these.
And if we post it to a G/L account it does not go to material,Even if we set up UPF key, it still goes to G/L account only.
Is there any way to post to material via G/L Account,as we want to give G/L account as reference to those conditions.
Thanks and Regards
W.Raghuram

hi
there r two options either the cost will distribute to the items or it will come to some different acct
now u can set this
Spro > MM >Logistic Invoice verification > Incoming Invoice > Configure how unplaned delivery costs are posted.
here select appropriate option
if u want it to be loaded on material then select distibute among line items
if u want diff acct then chose 2nd option
if u want diffrent gl acct for diff types of delivery cost then u can directly activate the direct posting to gl acct
Spro > MM >Logistic Invoice verification > Incoming Invoice > Activate Direct Posting to G/L Accounts and Material Accounts
then u will find a G?L acct tab
here u can directly debit a amount to an acct
regards
kunal

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In MM account determination GL account is set up but when I am doing MIRO
. I am putting total amount in amount field and freight costs in unplanned field under detail section.
When I simulate it gives me tax code related warning when I hit enter it credit vendor and debits GR/IR clearing and some debit to inventory account but not to freight account,
Whats the problem. Can someone explain me :
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4)     DO I have to put total in amount field (meaning inventory amount + fright ) or not .
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in standard setting the freight amount gets debit in the stock or inventoy account and gets credit in the fright accoutn at the time fo gr so it means the amount of frieght is gettting invenotrised
now at the time of IV IN MIRO SYSTEM CREDITS THE VENDOR ACCOUNT AND DEBITS THE GR/IR account
if u want to settele the planned delivery cost then select the laout variant for the planned delivery at item level
or in case if u want to make use of the unplanned delivery cost then u r doing the right step
but as u simulate the g/l accounts sytem will debit the inventory or stock account for it rather then frieght account (i belive so )
as the uplanned delivery cost may be getting inventorised that is added to the material price
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Hi,
Regarding the freight costs the business process is at the time Purchase Order creation, the company does not know what is the freight costs that is going to be charged by the vendor. The freight charges will be known when the vendor sends the Invoice. The purchase order contains the materials to be drop shipped by vendor directly to customer or cross dock delivery to company premises.
The business requirement is when the MIRO invoice is posted, user will enter the freight charges at the document header level and that value needs to be split among the PO Line items and needs to be posted to separate Freight Cost G/L Accounts based on the account assignment category. For drop ship items the freight cost to be posted to one G/L Account and for cross dock items it needs to be posted to a different G/L Account. Later on this freight cost to be applied to customer invoice for charging the customer with the vendor freight cost.
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Hi,
As at the time of the PO you do not know the freight costs and you want to post the freight costs in the MIRO as unplanned delivery costs . and there is no way you have to post as unplanned .
Here your requirements are 1. Post to separate GL accounts and 2. distribution among line items .
However both of your requirements are given with sap standard functionality with the below sap link .
Logistics Invoice Verification (MM-IV-LIV) - SAP Library
check spro--mm--liv--incoming invoice ---configure how unplanned delivery costs are treated .
at the same time when you maintain the condition type for frieght iN PO , they will become the planned delivery costs . if this come in to picture FR/IR account will come into the pictute at GR and IR .
i think your requirement will be partially met . and the coding part may become fuzzy rather to go with the standard.
Regards,

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We have some freight related condition types in PO and maintained freight vendor in the same.
We are running ERS for main vendor and arranging payment to freight vendor with MIRO.
As far as there is no change in planned delivery cost it is working fine.
But if there is any change in delivery costs, we want to post the unplanned delivery cost to material through MIRO, when we do i.v. for freight vendor first time.
if we select the option "2", i.e. post the unplanned delivery cost to the GL a/c assigned in OBYC, it is working fine. But with the first option i.e. distribute the unplanned delivery costs to line items, it is giving error that "Balance in transaction currency"
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Hi all,
This clarification is regarding delivery cost LIV - where difference between:
- the amount invoiced by the freight vendor
and
- the amount accrued based on PO
is treated as unplanned delivery cost and is intended to be distributed amongst the line items of the accrued planned delivery cost.
Customizing for the company code - Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted - is set as "Distribute among invoice items".
When we try to post an LIV in regard to the aforesaid scenario [Tax code is with 0% tax], the system returns the following error message:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Balance is not equal to zero: 58.42 EUR
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Diagnosis
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Also, went through the OSS note 129066 which mentions that Unplanned delivery costs cannot be distributed to the planned delivery costs as of SAP release 4.6C.
Our system is SAP 4.7 and hence we are unable to understand the reason for this error..
Is there any enhancement relevant in this regard?
Can anyone please throw some light on this.
Best Regards,
Bhargav

Thank you for contacting SAP Global Support Center.
It seems you're posting the planned and unplanned delivery cost
simultaneously.
The planned delivery cost and unplanned delivery cost cannot be invoicedtogether when only freight cost is being invoiced.
Unplanned delivery cost and planned delivery cost can be invoiced
together only when you invoice both goods and freight cost.
This is the standard design of the system. Even in customizing for
unplanned delivery cost, the system behavior is designed such a way thatit can be invoiced along with goods only. Both options which we have
given behave similarly except for the posting to account.
Therefore, your system behavior is as per standard design and there
is no error in your system. For this functionality there are no other
workarounds too.
Additionally, Please consider if the workaround below is working.
In order to post unplanned delivery costs with planned delivery costs
the customizing has to be set so that the unplanned delivery costs are
posted to a seperate G/L account rather than distributed amongs line
items.
SPRO
>>Materials Management
>>Logistics Invoice Verification
>>Incoming Invoice
>>Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
"2" Different G/L line
May I ask you to review note 129066. The the validity is from 4.0 to
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I am working in SAP system 4.0B.
The requirement from my client is that the "Unplanned delivery costs" can be defined in a different G/L account.
This should happen when they are doing the invoice, through MRHR.
I though that this is possible and I have customised the following:
- SPRO > Materials Managemet > Invoice Verification > Incoming Invoice > Configure how unplanned delivery costs are posted
There, I have defined the value "2 - Different G/L line" for the company code.
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But, when I am posting a new invoice, the unplanned delivery costs are still going to the old G/L account.
Could you let me know what is wrong here? Or if I need to do something else? or, if with this version of SAP I cannot assign the unplanned delivery costs to a new G/L account?
Makes me feel concern where the customising said "2 - Different G/L line" and not "2 - Different G/L account".
Please, let me know your feedback and thanks for your time and support.
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Hi Syed,
Good link, but, this is not resolving my issue.
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Hi everyone,
i have this issue. I m trying to cancel an incoice document from MR8M.When i do that i get a message: No m8281, unplanned delivery cost will lead to negative value.
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Hi,
This problem is caused by a program error.
Refer the notes 1377622, 992146
You use transaction MIRO "Enter Incoming Invoice" to enter an invoice that has a reference to a purchase order. Based on your Customizing settings, the unplanned delivery costs are distributed to the individual items.
1. You enter negative unplanned delivery costs on the "Details" tab page. The negative unplanned delivery costs lead to a negative invoice amount.
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              Negative invoice values (EKBE-WRBTR, EKBE-DMBTR) are written in the purchase order history. This results in an error in transaction MCE7 "Material Analysis (PURCHIS): Selection".
2. You post a subsequent credit. You enter unplanned delivery costs on the "Details" tab page. The unplanned delivery costs lead to a negative total invoice amount.
              The system does not issue error message M8 281 "Unplanned delivery costs will lead to negative value".
              The negative total invoice amount (the total of EKBE-WRBTR or EKBE-DMBTR) leads to an unexpected distribution of unplanned delivery costs for the next invoice document.
(SAP Customizing Implementation Guide -> Materials Management -> Logistics Invoice Verification -> Incoming Invoice -> Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted)
Other terms
Negative, delivery costs (DLC), bnkan_fw, rewwr, M8 281, rewrt
Reason and Prerequisites
This problem is caused by a program error.
Solution
The Support Package for Releases 4.70, 5.00, 6.00, 6.02, 6.03 and 6.04 corrects this error.
Advance correction: implement the correction instructions.
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When I post a vendor invoice (MIRO) and I enter 'Unplanned delivery costs' (in table Details) I can't save the invoice because the sytem didn't find the GL Account for Unplanned delivery costs ?!
Can anyone tell me please how to assign GL acount for 'Unplanned delivery costs' in Customizig ?
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Hi,
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This is standard functionality of SAP.
The logic SAP follows:
(a) Unplanned delivery cost that needs to be posted during invoice verification gets apportioned to the base values of line items considered for invoice verification
(b) Since the Tax is always calculated on the base values of the line items, the tax also calculated on apportioned unplanned delivery cost.
(c) There are no Configuration or User exits available to avoid calculation of tax on unplanned delivery cost.
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Thanks
Best Regards
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Planned delivery costs can be differentiated as follows:
Origin of Costs
Freight charges
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Distribute them prorated to calculated invoice items
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Please thro' the lights.

Hi,
[Unplanned Delivery Costs|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a8/b99f58452b11d189430000e829fbbd/frameset.htm]: -
Unplanned delivery costs were not agreed on in the purchase order and are not entered until the invoice is received.
You can enter the unplanned delivery costs in the invoice document alongside the costs incurred. You can post unplanned delivery costs as follows:
- Distribute them prorated to calculated invoice items
- Post them to separate G/L accounts
Function: -
You want to distribute unplanned delivery costs prorated when you post the document.
For unplanned delivery costs, you can only use the tax code that is also used for the goods items.
SPRO > MM > LIV > Incoming Invoice > Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
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