Unplanned delivery costs in LIV
My company has a requirement to block users from entering the unplanned delivery costs in LIV when entering an invoice.
I have stopped the invoices from posting by setting the config to post a separate line item for the unplanned delivery costs and I have not set up any account determination for the transaction modifier UPF.
Is there a cleaner way to do this? I.e. control the field selection in the LIV document so this field is display only?
Many thanks
Phil
Hi Ravana,
This depends on how you want to post the Unplanned delivery costs.
Create a validation step at document header level in transaction GGB0. set the Pre-requisite to
BKPF-BLART = 'RE' AND BKPF-WAERS = 'USD'
In the Check enter the following to limit the amount to 20 currency units.
BKPF-FRATH > 20
then enter the message that you want to issue.
Note, you will need to set up a different check for each currency, presumably you will want a different amount for each currency?
Hope this helps.
Cheers
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Distribution of unplanned delivery costs during delivery cost LIV
Hi all,
This clarification is regarding delivery cost LIV - where difference between:
- the amount invoiced by the freight vendor
and
- the amount accrued based on PO
is treated as unplanned delivery cost and is intended to be distributed amongst the line items of the accrued planned delivery cost.
Customizing for the company code - Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted - is set as "Distribute among invoice items".
When we try to post an LIV in regard to the aforesaid scenario [Tax code is with 0% tax], the system returns the following error message:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Balance is not equal to zero: 58.42 EUR
Message no. M8186
Diagnosis
You cannot post the document as the balance is 58.42 EUR.
Procedure
Check the gross invoice amount, the tax amount, the amounts in the items
selected and any unplanned delivery costs in the document header. The
items selected on the item list may not be the same as those in the
invoice.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Also, went through the OSS note 129066 which mentions that Unplanned delivery costs cannot be distributed to the planned delivery costs as of SAP release 4.6C.
Our system is SAP 4.7 and hence we are unable to understand the reason for this error..
Is there any enhancement relevant in this regard?
Can anyone please throw some light on this.
Best Regards,
BhargavThank you for contacting SAP Global Support Center.
It seems you're posting the planned and unplanned delivery cost
simultaneously.
The planned delivery cost and unplanned delivery cost cannot be invoicedtogether when only freight cost is being invoiced.
Unplanned delivery cost and planned delivery cost can be invoiced
together only when you invoice both goods and freight cost.
This is the standard design of the system. Even in customizing for
unplanned delivery cost, the system behavior is designed such a way thatit can be invoiced along with goods only. Both options which we have
given behave similarly except for the posting to account.
Therefore, your system behavior is as per standard design and there
is no error in your system. For this functionality there are no other
workarounds too.
Additionally, Please consider if the workaround below is working.
In order to post unplanned delivery costs with planned delivery costs
the customizing has to be set so that the unplanned delivery costs are
posted to a seperate G/L account rather than distributed amongs line
items.
SPRO
>>Materials Management
>>Logistics Invoice Verification
>>Incoming Invoice
>>Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
"2" Different G/L line
May I ask you to review note 129066. The the validity is from 4.0 to
4.6 C but it is valid for your release also. -
Post unplanned delivery cost to different freight G/L Accounts
Hi,
Regarding the freight costs the business process is at the time Purchase Order creation, the company does not know what is the freight costs that is going to be charged by the vendor. The freight charges will be known when the vendor sends the Invoice. The purchase order contains the materials to be drop shipped by vendor directly to customer or cross dock delivery to company premises.
The business requirement is when the MIRO invoice is posted, user will enter the freight charges at the document header level and that value needs to be split among the PO Line items and needs to be posted to separate Freight Cost G/L Accounts based on the account assignment category. For drop ship items the freight cost to be posted to one G/L Account and for cross dock items it needs to be posted to a different G/L Account. Later on this freight cost to be applied to customer invoice for charging the customer with the vendor freight cost.
The solution option we have considered is to define two statistical freight condition types at PO Level (one to be triggered for Drop ship materials and the other to be for Cross dock items), in the pricing procedure assign two different Account keys to these condition types. At MIRO users enters the freight cost as unplanned delivery cost, write the code in a user exit to split this value among the freight line items of the MIRO invoice. As separate Account keys are assigned to the condition types the values can be posted to separate G/Ls. To bring these values to customer invoice we will develop a custom routine in SD pricing procedure.
Request the experts to let me know if there is any simple way to map this requirement.
Thanks & Regards,
GLN.Hi,
As at the time of the PO you do not know the freight costs and you want to post the freight costs in the MIRO as unplanned delivery costs . and there is no way you have to post as unplanned .
Here your requirements are 1. Post to separate GL accounts and 2. distribution among line items .
However both of your requirements are given with sap standard functionality with the below sap link .
Logistics Invoice Verification (MM-IV-LIV) - SAP Library
check spro--mm--liv--incoming invoice ---configure how unplanned delivery costs are treated .
at the same time when you maintain the condition type for frieght iN PO , they will become the planned delivery costs . if this come in to picture FR/IR account will come into the pictute at GR and IR .
i think your requirement will be partially met . and the coding part may become fuzzy rather to go with the standard.
Regards, -
Unplanned delivery cost & exchange rate differences in MIRO
Hi Gurus,
while posting MIRO, I am facing the following problems. If anybody gives me reply, it will be a great help.
1. Unplanned delivery cost:
Client requirement is, these unplanned delivery costs should be added on material only.
how we can map this? how system behaves when stock is there and not there? also tell me which G/Ls will trigger.
2. Exchange Rate:
I maintained exchange rate in OB08. while doing MIRO, how system posts exchange rate differences.
which G/Ls will trigger.
in case of conditions like customs duty, cess etc how system will behave? which G/Ls will trigger?
Thanks in advance
KKHi,
According to first question:
For unplanned cost You have configuration for plant code:
Configuration: SPRO->MM->LIV->Incoming invoice->Configured how unplanned delivery cost are posted
You have 2 options:
- Distribute among invoice items
- Different G/L line
You have another option, You can assigne this cost for item when You use fright cost condition in PO (FRA/FRB)
If the stock will be available, then system incrase valuation, If not will be deviation.
G/L account for unplanned cost is taking from PRD(for Distribute among invoice items) or UPF(for Different G/L line) transaction from OBYC tcode and for FRA/FRB condition is FR1.
Question 2:
Configuration: SPRO->MM->LIV->Incoming invoice->Configure How Exchange Rate Differences Are Treated
G/L account takes from KDR transaction from OBYC tcode.
Regards
Lukasz -
TAX not Calculating for Unplanned Delivery cost in MIRO
Dear All,
I am having an issue with Unplanned delivery cost in MIRO,
We have to do an accounting of a invoice/PO which contains in addition to actual Value the Unplanned Delivery cost also, and for which also the TAXes also applicable with ED 10% and ECess 2%,SHcess 1% ,
Now in MIRO if i want to enter these Packing and forwarding chanrges in Unplanned delivery cost, but the TAX rates is not calculating for the same.
The TAX rates are calculating only for the values other than Unplanned delivery cost.
What i want TAX also need to be calculate based on the TAX code choosen in MIRO or as flow that of PO.
I have checked in OMR2, there we have mentioned Default Unplanned delivery cost tax code as ED NIL.
Can any where in the setting we can say by default the TAX rates should calculate as that of PO or whatever TAX codes we have choosen in MIRO.
How to achive this, pl help.
Regards,
Nagaraj Shi
the screen shot i sent is also of 4.7E
now u can check OMR2 for default tax code for unplanned delivery cost
can u show us the screen shot of the details tab of MIRO
also check in SPR>MM>LIV>Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
here what value u have maintained ,we are using 2 as (2 Different G/L line)
regards
kunal
Edited by: Kunal Ingale on May 19, 2010 6:18 AM -
Unplanned Delivery Cost through INVOIC IDOC - Failing due to Cost Center
Hello all,
We are using INVOIC idoc for incoming invoice from the vendors, and are using E1EDK05-BETRG for getting the unplanned delivery costs. However, we don't want to use a default cost center (OKB9) for the "Unplanned Delivery GL Account", instead we want to use the cost center from the Purchase Order.
Is there any way we can get the cost center from the Purchase order while processing the invoice through IDOC?
Thank you,
KrishnaHello Krishna,
As per my knowledge unplanned delivery cost is liability account not expenses ! Beyond delivery expenses you planned in PO ,you would enter in LIV. That time mentioned entry will be post
Material account........Dr ( If materials available)
To Vendor account,,,,,,,,Cr
Price difference account.......Dr ( If material not avialble)
To Vendor account..........Cr
Frieght alwasy materialized while doing the GRN.
Regards
Mani Kumar -
Unplanned Delivery Costs and Price Variance - Account Determination
Hi,
I am facing the following issue:
My goal is to automatic post the unplanned delivery costs to an account depending on valuation class.
The account should be diferent from the one used in purchase (EIN) post but both values should affect the moving price.
Can we do that?
Thank you for your cooperation
Best Regards
João FernandesMy take is that you can have or the other, not both.
You configure how the uplanned costs are handled, a) Distributed among invoice Items or b) to a different G/L line.
Path : SPRO>MM>LIV>Incoming Invoice
If you pick, the costs goes to the stock account.
If you pick B, the cost goes to a separate account but it will not affect the item price.
The account is defined in OBYC, for transaction UPF, and it is Valuation class independent.
Hope it helps -
SAP cancellation goods receipt after posting unplanned delivery cost
Dear all,
I created one SAP purchase order, quantity 10 pcs, net price = 10 usd for one pc. Invoice receipt & goods receipts is done. When goods receipt, accounting movement as following:
debit stock account: 100
credit GR/IR: 100
Invoice receipt as following:
credit AP: 100
debit GRIR: 100
After that I had another invoice for unplanned delivery cost: 10 usd
its accounting movement is:
credit AP: 10
debit stock account: 10
After receiving invoice for unplanned delivery cost I must cancel goods receipt document, the SAP system has accounting movement as follow:
credit stock: 110
debit GRIR: 110
But my customer want that it must be accounted as below:
credit stock: 100
debit GRIR: 110
credit XXX: 10
HOW CAN I DO FOR THIS SITUATION????? PLEASE HELP!!!!!Thanks Chandra Shekhar!
But when I did as you suggested (In SPRO Goto MM-LIV- Incoming Invoice- Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted here against the company code put the option 2. Configure your system to post the unplanned delivery costs separately.)
Subsequent debit for unplanned delivery cost as below:
Credit AP: 10
Debit Unplan. delivery cost: 10
when I cancel goods receipt, its accounting document as follow:
Credit stock: 100
Debit GRIR: 100
HOWEVER, my customer want that Subsequent debit for unplanned delivery cost as below:
Credit AP: 10
Debit stock: 10
Until cancellation for goods receipt (after invoice receipt (100usd) & Subsequent debit for unplanned delivery cost (10 usd). It must be as below:
credit stock: 100
debit GRIR: 110
credit XXX: 10
HOW CAN I DO FOR THIS SITUATION????? PLEASE HELP!!!!! -
Taxes on Unplanned Delivery cost?.
How to calculate the taxes on unplanned delivery cost?.
Please thro' the lights.Hi,
[Unplanned Delivery Costs|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a8/b99f58452b11d189430000e829fbbd/frameset.htm]: -
Unplanned delivery costs were not agreed on in the purchase order and are not entered until the invoice is received.
You can enter the unplanned delivery costs in the invoice document alongside the costs incurred. You can post unplanned delivery costs as follows:
- Distribute them prorated to calculated invoice items
- Post them to separate G/L accounts
Function: -
You want to distribute unplanned delivery costs prorated when you post the document.
For unplanned delivery costs, you can only use the tax code that is also used for the goods items.
SPRO > MM > LIV > Incoming Invoice > Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
You want to post unplanned delivery costs to a separate G/L account.
You can make settings for the G/L account to specify which tax codes are proposed. These can be different from the tax codes of the goods items.
SPRO > MM > LIV > Incoming Invoice > Maintain Default Values for Tax Codes -
Question on unplanned delivery costs need to go to GL account ????
Hello
I have a question regarding unplanned deliver costs. I am a FI analyst Can you please explain my how I can solve my problem . My user wants unplanned delivery costs to go in to the GL account .
In MM account determination GL account is set up but when I am doing MIRO
. I am putting total amount in amount field and freight costs in unplanned field under detail section.
When I simulate it gives me tax code related warning when I hit enter it credit vendor and debits GR/IR clearing and some debit to inventory account but not to freight account,
Whats the problem. Can someone explain me :
1) What do I need to do to make it go to GL account ( account is set up but what is tax code related error . how do I fix that,
2) How does unplanned delivery costs work if I have tax, discount and freight.
3) Is tax calculated off total amount (inventory + freight) and discount too. How can I prevent that so that my tax is calculated just on inventory amount?
4) DO I have to put total in amount field (meaning inventory amount + fright ) or not .
I will be grateful if someone can guide me towards right direction. Please give me a detailed answer. How does it work???
Thanks
Kavita Reddyin standard setting the freight amount gets debit in the stock or inventoy account and gets credit in the fright accoutn at the time fo gr so it means the amount of frieght is gettting invenotrised
now at the time of IV IN MIRO SYSTEM CREDITS THE VENDOR ACCOUNT AND DEBITS THE GR/IR account
if u want to settele the planned delivery cost then select the laout variant for the planned delivery at item level
or in case if u want to make use of the unplanned delivery cost then u r doing the right step
but as u simulate the g/l accounts sytem will debit the inventory or stock account for it rather then frieght account (i belive so )
as the uplanned delivery cost may be getting inventorised that is added to the material price
and as u said u dont want to have tax calulated on the unplanned delivery cost then i suggest u to post it as subsequent debit and there do not make use of the claulate tax option or do the direct posting for the g/l account option -
Unplanned delivery cost for different Vendor
Hi,
For a import PO we need to pay OCTOI to Municipal corporation.
Unfortunately while PO creation the octroi condition was not entered.
Now we need to post a invoice for this and the condition is, we must post this to material.
We dont want to do direct FI entry as then this will not load on material.
Entring Unplanned delivery cost at the time of invoice will not be possible is the Vendor is different.
Any suggestions please...
RajeshDear Rajesh,
unplanned delivery cost is basically which not plan at the time of PO and it will be expected at the time of invoice.
you can enter extra amount in unplanned delivery cost, but check at the time of Stimulate which a/c is being captured.
The Unplanned Delivery cost is default in separate GL or in Stock Account depends upon the configuration.
check In SPRO ,Maintain settings as shown
MM---> Logistic Invoice Verification -->Incoming Invoice --> Configure How unplanned delivery costs are posted
Please check the below link for more information
http://www.sap-img.com/financial/unplanned-and-plan-delivery-costs-in-stock-and-gl-account.htm
Unplanned delivery costs in MIRO
Regards,
PK. -
Unplanned Delivery costs in MIRO for different Vendor
I have an annual PO and I invoice it with normal MIRO transaction.
At the same time I have one service which I want to be a unplanned delivery cost for this PO. This service will be assigned to the material account and it is for a different vendor.
Can I do it in MIRO creating only the value in the unplanned delivery cost and insert a different vendor? In OBYC this is assigned to UPF category.
Can you please help me?Hello,
You can use transaction MIRO to do unplanned delivery costs.
You use "Subsequent Debit" and insert the PO number (equal to invoice). The system will show the lines of the PO that were already invoiced and in the tab "Details" you should change the Invoice Party and inser the value of the unplanned delivery costs in the field "Unpl. Del. Csts".
If you don't have the costs in the PO for different vendor you must create like this...with Subsequent Debit. Only if you have planned costs in the PO it is possible to do it invoice and costs in the same document for different vendors otherwise you must have 2 documents (invoice for the material vendor and subsequent debit for the other unplanned costs vendor). -
Unplanned Delivery Costs in Invoice Verification
Hiii All ,
I am getting an error " Balance in Transaction Currency " when i give the Unplanned delivery costs. The configuration that i made is Unplanned delivery costs should be added to the Invoice Items. This comes when i am posting the Planned delivery costs i.e freight Conditions. Please suggest me if any configuration is missing.
Regards,
KumarHi,
You appear to be adding Planned AND unplanned delivery charges somehow????
If you have entered freight conditions on the PO and if that freight cost is being captured during GR (as you indicate by the value of 110 at GR stage) then why are you entering unplanned delivery costs as well?
You should be simply selecting the option "goods/service items + Planned delivery costs" from the pull down list in the centre -right of the MIRO screen (if the delivery costs are included on the same invoice and vendor). the total value for the invoice amount should be entered as 110, (If you are ONLY entering the planned delivery costs then select this option and ONLY enter 10 as the invoice amount) but there is no reason to enter ANYTHING in the unplanned delivery costs field because these are PLANNED delivery costs.
Or are you saying that there are unplanned costs on top of the planned costs? In which case the invoice amount should be 10 PLUS the unplanned costs.
Steve B -
Unplanned delivery costs in MIRO
Hi,
In what scenario we use "Unplanned delivery costs" in MIRO.
We created the Purchase Order and did the goods receipts. At the time of Vendor Invoicing, we came to know that we forgot to enter freight value in the Purchase Order. We don't want to reverse the goods receipt, and we want to rectify the error in the MIRO. What is the best way to do this.
I have explored the various possibility in MIRO like,
a. putting freight amount in Unplanned delivery costs of Details tab.
b. putting the freight amount directly in the G/L (below in the G/L Account tab).
I just want to know "should we stop the users to do the mistakes in future (our user is saying - the SAP has given the option, hence we must use this). Our user is saying that he is not aware of the freight amount at the time of PO creation, hence he will not enter the freight value in the Purchase Order and will use the Unplanned delivery costs for entering the freight always.
Regards,
PK>
PK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In what scenario we use "Unplanned delivery costs" in MIRO.
>
> We created the Purchase Order and did the goods receipts.
At the time of Vendor Invoicing, we came to know that
we forgot to enter freight value in the Purchase Order.
We don't want to reverse the goods receipt, and
we want to rectify the error in the MIRO. What is the best way to do this.
> I have explored the various possibility in MIRO like,
>
> a. putting freight amount in Unplanned delivery costs of Details tab.
> b. putting the freight amount directly in the G/L (below in the G/L Account tab).
>
> I just want to know "should we stop the users to do the
mistakes in future (our user is saying - the SAP has given the option,
hence we must use this). *Our user is saying that he is
not aware of the freight amount at the time of PO creation,
hence he will not enter the freight value in the
Purchase Order and will use the Unplanned
delivery costs for entering the freight always*.
>
> Regards,
> PK
If freight amount is only know at the billing then enter freight amount in unplanned delivery cost field.
In SPRO ,Maintain settings as shown
MM---> Logistic Invoice Verification -->Incoming Invoice --> Configure How unplanned delivery costs are posted --->
For required Company Code = '2'.
Create new g/l account in Chart of accounts(FS00) -
User-Exit to limit the unplanned delivery costs in a PO
Hi All,
My Requirement is that I need to Limit the Unplanned Delivery Costs in a Purchase Order.I find there exists no ways to arrive at this through Customizations.Could anybody please guide me If this can be Fulfilled through a User Exit.If yes,could you please tell me the Exit.
Thanks a ton,
MariaHi,
You can explore EXIT_SAPLMR1M_001.
Hope it works for you.
Cheers !
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