Unusual Battery behavior: Possibly Obsolete??

I have an old version PalmOne LifeDrive (TM) with a 1660mAh battery.
1) can I replace the battery with the new standard 1850mAh without damaging my device?
2)The battery has been charging with power rating jumping to 55% dropping to 7% etc... while charging. Is this a battery issue or is my palm going bad? I read somewhere about soft reset and did that but the problem persisted. Before I did this I have charged the battery for hours but it was dead in the field.
Post relates to: LifeDrive

1. You can replace the battery as long as it states it is for the lifedrive. It should not damage the device as long as it is a compatible replacement.
2. the charging issue could be related to 3 things. The battery, AC charger or the charging circuit in the handheld.
I would replace each item separately to see if it makes a difference. Start with the AC charger then the battery and last repair the lifedrive.
It has to be one of the 3 that is causing the issue.
For reference purposes, click on the following link for the support page for your device on the kb.palm.com webpage.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na/lifedrive/lifedrive/unlocked/home/page_en.html
There are links on the page to the user guide, troubleshooting, how to's, downloads, etc.

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Sometimes just turning off the phone for a few minutes will fix it.
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Early 2011 MBP 17 Random Shutdown and Battery Behavior

Hi all, new to the forums here.
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Do a SMC reset:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964
Run an Apple Hardware Test:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1509
You may need to use OPTION D to start it.
Install iStat pro and open Activity Monitor. Set Activity Monitor to show 'All Processes' and '%CPU' to display values from high to low. Post images of the two such as these:
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Need Help with Unusual Table Behavior

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If the problem does not appear in the test account try starting in "Safe Mode" (It will take a bit more time to startup because it runs a directory check first).
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Hi guys,
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Hi iBook fan
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In this Apple Doc. Apple Notebooks you may like to read the section on Standard Maintenance:
Apple Notebooks
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Ever since my I updated to the 2.0 firmware my battery life is horrible. I have a nearly full charge and put my ipod to sleep at the end of the day. I get up the next morning and the battery is so drained the ipod won't start up until I plug it into a computer. what gives? Do I have a defective battery? I just got this thing in May. It shouldn't be having a problem like this. I want to take it to a genius bar but I'm afraid they're just going to tell me the battery issue is from wear and tear. I do have apple care on this.
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We are trying to construct a binary type table using a pivot query. (I know there will be no 0's, I will fill that in later.)
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First issue:
Although the query selects master_id and mbr_id, I only get master_id with the pivoted results (when it should be master_id, mbr_id & pivot results). Not sure why.
Second issue:
And this is where it gets even more strange, if I
1) do something to the code to make it have a syntax problem, re-run, it will fail, naturally.
then
2) fix the syntax back to the original query above, it will run and return master_id, mbr_id & the pivoted results.
Has anyone encountered such a strange issue before? Any suggestions on a solution welcome.
Edited by: chris001 on Feb 22, 2013 8:09 AM

I've experienced a similar problem with my FaderPort controller but only under odd circumstances.
If I accidentally unplugged my FaderPort and then plugged it back in, the Control Surfaces preferences that I had assigned it would get deleted and the MIDI messages would come through as note data and other really weird stuff depending on what track I had selected in the arrange window...
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