Unwanted images/screens

During my first download from camera, all screens/webpages recently visited showed up under images and screens in the photo library...more than 5,000! I've started deleting by dragging to trash, but what's going on?

Thanks for the reply. The term "screen" just showed up as headings or titles for groups of "photos" along with dates, that were actually "screen" images, i.e. images or pages that had been on my monitor, such as part of the manual for my new Canon printer or a snapshot of a web page I had visited. I wouldn't consider any of these really photos, but just capturing what was on the monitor at different times of my viewing during the last few weeks. And they were duplicated enough to continue up to 5,000 plus until I stopped import.
I have a Canon point and shoot, PowerShot A700 that I've had since 2006 and downloaded with never a problem to Windows PC, but this was the first time to my new iMac. Connected it through USB cable. And, sorry, no MobileMe account.
Okay, I just tried again to recreate what I did and know what happened, in case there are any newbies like me out there. After naming a new album, selecting Canon from device list, and selecting pertinent photos, instead of clicking on import at bottom right of page (which didn't show because I had zoomed in on the page), I went to "file", then "import to library", and when another box appeared, I left it highlighted on my home image, and then clicked on import. No personal photos, but all screen images. Sorry about that.

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