Up-grading to a Core i7-950
I would like to up-grade my sluggish processor and was wondering if it is possible to install the new i7-950 Intel Processor? If it is possible, how hard would it be? If all it takes is swapping out the processors has anyone tried this and can you notice the difference? I'm worried about all the other components not being able to support the newer processor. I currently have up-graded the RAM to 8GB and the Hard Drive is 500GB hybrid.
Thanks for your help!
Although... while the Core 2 Duo is getting a bit old (with Intel having just released their 2nd generation "i" series mobile processors)... your machine with 8GB of RAM and a Seagate Momentus XT hybird drive shouldn't be "sluggish". Are you running CPU intensive tasks? Just wondering if something else might be going on.
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Hi!
I am just going to config. a new computer for editing HD and AVCHD videos. I bought a new videocamera, a Canon Legria HF 200 recently, and it`s not possible to edit HD and AVCHD on my old computers. I am planning to run Win.7 64 bit and Prem.El.8+Photoshop El.8. Is there anyone that can tell me if this is a good config. for my purpose? I also have some qustions
about setting up my 4 Samsung Spinpoints. I have tried to read as much as possible but my english is not so good and I am just an computeramateur so there are som things I don`t understand. Sometimes people says "editing" and sometimes they say "rendering", is this the same? Then I don`t know if I should use Raid or singel disks. If Raid, Raid 0 on 2 disks or Raid 5 on all 4 disks,(not the ssd). For safe I will have an ext.disk for backup. Is this a good setup?
1 SSD:OS and programs.
1 Spinp.:Pagefile, scratch and rendering,(editing?).
1 Spinp.:Media.
1 Spinp.:Projects.
1 Spinp.: Final results.
1 CPU:Intel Core i7 950 3,06GHz
2 Mem:OCZ Gold Triple Channel 6GB Kit 3x2GB DD =12 GB
1 MOBO: ASUS P6T SE -ATX LGA
1 Desktop:Logitech Pro 2400 Cordless Desktop
1 BenQ M2200HD 22" LCD
4 HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB SATA 3.0 G for ?
1 DVD combo:Samsung SH-S223B/BEBE DVDRW 22X Black
1 Ext. HDD:Western Digital MyBook Essential 1TB USB for backup
1 Power:Zalman ZM850-HP, 850W ATX
1 HDD:OCZ Agility 60GB 2.5" SSD SATA II (for OS and progr).
1 Graf. Sapphire Radeon HD5850 1GB GDDR5
1 Chassi Cooler Master HAF 932 ATX
1 CPU cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus ( for future OC)
Hope you understand my English.
From Åland IslandsI gave you my opinion on Raid 0 in my above post.
Regarding Raid 5, it is really a matter of personal preference. If you are good at doing regular backups of data, and at least one timely backup of a complete Drive Image, then Raid 5 might not be your cup of tea.
Here is some additional technical details on a Raid 5 configuration from Intel Tech Support:
(One key statement below is that Raid 5 performs better with small I/O files, (versus the large data files associated with video). ~~ And you'll need to tie up a minimum of 3 hard drives to accomplish this sense of data recovery and availability)...
RAID 5 (STRIPING WITH PARITY)
RAID level 5 combines three or more hard drives so that all data is divided into manageable blocks called strips. RAID 5 uses parity, which is a mathematical method for recreating lost data to a single drive, which increases fault tolerance. The data and parity are striped across the array members in a rotating sequence. Because of the parity striping, it is possible to rebuild the data after replacing a failed hard drive with a new drive. The extra work of calculating the missing data will degrade the write performance to the volumes while data is being rebuilt. RAID 5 performs better for smaller I/O functions than larger sequential files.
Advantages: Full data redundancy; efficient; fault-tolerant and increased storage array performance.
Disadvantage: Time consuming to rebuild and decreased performance during rebuilding.
Applications: Good choice for file and application servers; Internet and Intranet servers. -
What is Announcement: Core I7 950 Show Details ?
Just above the body of this sub-forum is an oddity... how did someone make a posting that shows there?
Click the Show Details and you'll see what I mean
Announcement: Core I7 950 Show DetailsThanks for the heads up. Fixed.
-Jeff -
Premiere Elements 9 running extremely slow on Core i7 Win7 Quadro system
Hello,
We've had a single installation of Premiere Elements 9 for some time now and for love nor money we've been unable to get it working properly, i've tried all manner of driver combinations for graphics and motherboard and the problems persist. Basically, the software refreshes extremely slowly, you can't even consider scrubbing the timeline, this happens regardless of what is placed on the timeline, it can be a series of tiny little jpegs all the way up to 1080p mp4 or even raw video, Premiere Elements just does not want to play ball. Now, I trialled the software on another PC of bog-standard spec with built-in graphics card and it ran very well but on our MediaPC it is totally unusable. Any help at all would be apprciated/ The spec of the PC is as follows (plus all software and drivers are up-to-date):
Windows 7 64bit (6.1.7600)
Core i7 950
8GB RAM
NVidia Quadro FX1800 (8.17.12.9573)
And we're using media files that are stored locally.
Many thanks
AndyWhat project settings are you selecting when you start up your Premiere Elements project? If you're selecting the correct project settings for your video, there will be NO red lines above your clips when you add them to your timeline. Is that the case in your project?
You say you're using .mp4s as you source video, and that could be part of the problem. Most .mp4 formats (from smart phones or pocket camcorders, with the exception of the Flip) are not supported natively in Premiere Elements. What make and model of device produced this video?
Also, you say your video is 1080p, which is also not supported by the program. HD video to be edited in Premiere Elements must be shot in 50i or 60i. Progressive scan frame rates in AVCHD files are not supported in version 9.
Finally, you say the program even chokes on photos. Have you ensured that your photos are no larger than 1000x750 pixels? Even "small" JPEGs can be many times this size, and soft-rendering this video source can also choke the program.
With a good match between source video and project settings, the program should fly like an eagle on your hardware. -
MSI X58 Pro-E, i7 950, first time overclocking
Hello,
It's the first time I'll try overclocking. My config is
Board: MSI X58 PRO-E (MS-7522) 3.0
Bios: Version 8.15
VGA: Nvidia GeForce GTX 770
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro M - 600W
Proc: Intel Core i7 950
MEM: Kingston 2 x 4Go PC3-12800 800Mhz
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 120Go
COOLER: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
OS: Windows 8.1 x64
Could you help me to choose what to change in the BIOS ?
Thank you !Quote from: rodolphe.lampe on 21-April-15, 13:36:44
CPU Vcore is 1.264V and sometimes it jumps to 1.272V
In BIOS, left to "auto" where you set VCore?
Have you found the reason or a solution for high temps?
According to Intel website, Tcase max is 67.9c, this means core temps should be around 70c no more, you will need them at 50-55c at stock to be able to overclock. -
MSI P55 GD80 compatible with Intel COre i7 Extreme 965
hye there, i just wanted to know is the new p55 GD80 fits with intel core i7 extreme 965??..
as far as i concern, p55 mobo compatible with any i5 or i7 board, is that true.?The p55 stands for the chipset , so it's a p55 chipset and no x58 chipset ,.
The p55 is only compatible with cori i5 and core i7 starting with 8... ( 860 , 870) it support only dual channel memory and not triple like the core i7 9... (920 , 940 , 950 965 ,975).
The core i5 and core i7 860 ,870 has the pci-e controller integrated so you have only 1x16 or 2x 8x8 or 1x8 and 2x4 for triple sli in sli or crossfire. The core i7 9.... with x58 chipset have 2x 16 pci-e or 1x16 and 2x8 for triple sli , so for highend multi gpu's the x58 has a advantage and it has triple channel memory , but it is a small advantage.
See here the socket it support and if it has hyper-treathing or not.
The core i5 750 has no hyper-treathing the core i 7 does, no matter what socket ( 1156 or 1366)
Model LGA socket Core/Thread Clock Turbo boost L3 cache TDP Price
45nm
Bloomfield
Core i7 975 1366 4/8 3.33 3.60 8 130 999
Core i7 950 1366 4/8 3.06 3.46 8 130 562
Core i7 920 1366 4/8 2.66 2.93 8 130 284
45nm
Lynnfield
Core i7 870 1156 4/8 2.93 3.60 8 95 562
Core i7 860 1156 4/8 2.80 3.46 8 95 284
Core i 870s 1156 4/8 2.80 3.46 8 82 337
Core i5 750 1156 4/4 2.66 3.20 8 95 196
Core i5 750s 1156 4/4 2.66 3.20 8 82 259
32nm
Clarkdale
Core i5 670 1156 2/4 3.46 3.73 4 73 284
Core i5 661 1156 2/4 3.33 3.60 4 73 196
Core i5 660 1156 2/4 3.33 3.60 4 73 196
Core i5 650 1156 2/4 3.20 3.40 4 73 176
Core i5 540 1156 2/4 3.06 none 4 73 143
Core i5 530 1156 2/4 2.93 none 4 73 123
Pentium G9650 1156 2/2 2.80 none 4 73 8.
Base line if you want a core i7 Bloomfield =920 ,940 , 950 , 975 or 965 you need a x58 chipset based motherboard.= socket 1366 = triple channel memory DDR3
core i5 Lynnfield (4cores)750 /750s= p55 chipset = NO hyper-treathing=socket 1156=dual channel memory DDR3
Core i7 Lynnfield (4 cores) 860 , 870 = p55 chipset = Hyper-treathing = socket 1156.=dual channel memory DDR3
Core i5 clarkdale (2cores)= p55 chipset = Hyper-treathing = socket 1156.=dual channel memory DDR3
All have turbo mode except the Core i5 540, Core i5 530 , Pentium G9650.
Hope this will help. -
I am slowly but sure getting close to my budget build selections.. I will mostly edit HD JVC HM700 & DSLR footage.
Is it worth it for me to spend the extra bucks from i7-950 to i7-970?
Processor
Intel >
Item#: N82E16819115066
Intel Core i7-970 Gulftown 3.2GHz 6 x 256KB L2 Cache 12MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80613I7970
595
Processor
Intel
Item#: N82E16819115211
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
270
Thanks.
--NANThanks.
Ideally, my budget is 3K ... with monitors, but I could go up to $3500.
I want to deliver to H.264-BR format and hope to incorporate more DL AE. Sounds like it may be worth it ...
Processor
Intel >
Item#: N82E16819115066
Intel Core i7-970 Gulftown 3.2GHz 6 x 256KB L2 Cache 12MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80613I7970
595
Processor
Intel
Item#: N82E16819115211
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
270
Mobo
ASUS >
Item#: N82E16813131641
ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
220
CPU Cooler
Noctua 6 Dual Heatpipe
Noctua 6 Dual Heatpipe with 140mm/120mm Dual SSO Bearing Fans CPU Cooler NH-D14 - Retail
Pasted from <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002VKVZ1A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER>
85
Thermal Paste
Arctic 5 Silver
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
Pasted from <http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-5-Thermal-Compound/dp/B0002EQU6C/ref=sr_1_4?s=electron ics&ie=UTF8&qid=1303761868&sr=1-4>
5
Power Supply
Corsair >
Item#: N82E16817139009
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
140
C:
OS Drive
Western Digital >
Item#: N82E16822136322
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
150
D: [RAID5]
Media, Projects, Media Cache, Exports
Western Digital >
Item#: N82E16822136798
Western Digital RE4 WD1003FBYX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Enterprise Hard Drive -Bare Drive
360
3x120
RAID Hot Spare
Western Digital >
Item#: N82E16822136697
Western Digital RE4 WD5003ABYX 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
80
RAM
Corsair
Item#: N82E16820145350
CORSAIR Vengeance 24GB (6 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
320
Video Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 570
EVGA GeForce GTX 570 Superclocked 1280 MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card with Lifetime Warranty 012-P3-1572-AR
Pasted from <http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclocked-PCI-Express-Graphics-012-P3-1572-AR/dp/B004EYSMGW/ ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1303761406&sr=1-1>
$20 REBATE
350
RAID Controller
3ware
Item#: N82E16816116109
3ware Internal 9750-4i SATA/SAS 6Gb/s PCI-Express 2.0 w/ 512MB onboard memory Controller Card, Single
329
RAID cable
3ware >
Item#: N82E16816116097
3ware CBL-SFF8087OCF-05M 1 unit of 0.5m Multi-lane Internal (SFF-8087) Serial ATA breakout cable
20
OS
Microsoft
Item#: N82E16832116992
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit 1-Pack - OEM
140
Case
Antec >
Item#: N82E16811129100
Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
159
15 shipping
Keyboard
Logitech K350
Logitech K350 Black USB 2.4 GHz Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard
50
Mouse
Logitech M505
Logitech M505 Silver 3 Buttons Tilt Wheel Wireless Laser Mouse
37
DVD/BD
Pioneer >
Item#: N82E16827129066
Pioneer Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 8X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Burner Blu-ray Burner BDR-206DBKS
114
i7-950 build
2844
i7-970 build
3169
Monitors
Samsung F2380
2
400
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Another: a serious error has occurred that requires Adobe Premiere Pro to shut down
I know a few people have had the same notification:
sorry, a serious error has occurred that requires Adobe Premiere Pro to shut down. We will attempt to save your current project
I have tried a whole series of things to fix it and no luck. Here are all the computer stats... does anyone have any ideas???
Premiere Pro
Version number: CS5, with most recent update
Installation language: English
Updates applied: Most recent… installed AFTER problem started
Project/sequence settings… NA
Operating System
Name: Windows 7, 64bt
Update/patch level: Service Pack 1
Installed language: English
Display resolution and color depth. 1920x1080; 32bit color
CPU type and speed Core i7 950
Amount of memory (RAM) 12GB
Video card
Manufacturer: Nvidia
Model: FX3800
Driver version: Latest (installed after errors started)
Number of monitors (displays): in use 2 (with one disabled for testing)
Audio card
Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology 82801J HD Audio Controller
Model
Driver version: 6.1.7601.17514 (latest version)
Each hard drive's capacity and space remaining Disk setup (partitions used, raid configuration, what is where for OS/projects/media/scratch/audio)
C and D, no partitions. D is raided, controlled by hardware controller. All software on C. Media kept on D.
Hardware capture device NA
Manufacturer
Model
Driver version number
Capture software NA
Name
Company
Version
Comprehensive list of third-party plug-ins you installed.
None for Premiere I don’t think. A couple for After Effects. Have been installed for a while with no recent updates.
Exact text of any error messages
sorry, a serious error has occurred that requires Adobe Premiere Pro to shut down. We will attempt to save your current project
Explain clearly what you want to do, what you are doing and what the result is
Open Premiere to do some work
Be sure to mention if it is something that worked before using the same procedure
Nothing has changed on the PC prior to program failure.
Very importantly: Post details of troubleshooting you have already done to avoid "did that" reponses to questions people ask when trying to help.
Tried:
Reinstalling
Reducing to one screen.
Holding Shift when starting until first screen (New/ Open Existing/ Help)
Holding Ctrl, Shift Alt when starting until first screen (New/ Open Existing/ Help)
Programme crashed regardless of clicking directly on loading icon and opening New or Existing via first load screen, or via clicking directly from a project file.
Removed all fonts installed since last opened.
Restarting.
Updated Graphics Driver.
Updated PremiereHi guys; I thought I would share my experience and how I managed to fix this problem. It might help someone.
In my case I kept receiving this message; eventually after re-launching Premiere, I actually paid close attention to the "software loading" information and saw that it got stuck on my installed "Colorista ii" which is a colour grading software.
Now the red bulb came on my head ping!
I recently just upgraded my Mac to the OS X Yosemite & that affected pretty much any non-updated application, which in my case was that and many more of the Red Giant Pacakge; so I searched for the upgrade via Red giant Link, and low and behold I found it and did so. Immediately everything loaded up perfectly fine.. and now can't even do the work, cos I'm so exhausted from an 'almost heartattack'; so going to sleep and commence later in the day I guess..
Now, you might probably want to check if any application on your system needs upgrading to whatever is the operating system on your Mac or PC at this very time. It might help.
Always back-up.
I hope I helped someone :-)
@ToleXElijah
Extreme Studio Manager -
I Purchased the Adobe Creative Productive Premium Suite CS5 in early 2010 and I was very satisfied with it all this time, I can say that I never had a problem while using any of the Production Premium applications. Few weeks ago, I asked Mr. Philip Bloom about a technical issue regarding the best method to use a 50 FPS clip with a 23.976 FPS project, and I got his kind help but he recommended me too that I should upgrade to the latest Adobe Cloud CC 2014 which has many new features added to the different programs. I took his kind advice and downloaded a trial version of all the Adobe Cloud CC programs which I use for my filmmaking business.
Today is the 20th day of my trial period and I have 10 days left to take the decision of continuing with CC 2014 or not. The past 20 trial days were not very pleasant. I want you to share with me the following details which I'll list them as bullet points and I would appreciate diagnosing the problem if you can and suggest a solution for it to re-try the Adobe Cloud CC 2014 for the 10 remaining days with no further problems.
I used to have the Gigabyte graphics card GTX 470 for about 4 years and it malfunctioned last year and I replaced it with a humble Geoforce GT 610 card, but it worked fine with the Adobe Suite CS5 programs.
My system configuration is Intel Core I7 950@ 3.07GHz , installed memory 12 GB. , Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit Service pack 1, 3 hard drives 1TB. each (one of them is dedicated for Adobe asset files and the editing work)
For the first 2 or 3 days I used mainly the Premiere Pro CC 2014 establishing short projects for a max. of 5 minutes each and it was working normal. But, later, as soon as I started to build a project which reached about 24 minutes of length and I began to edit those before I add more clips to the timeline, unfortunately, the PrPro CC 2014 started to freeze on any of the frames every time I try to edit normally as I used to do with the CS5, so, I had to wait for 2 or 3 minutes every time it freezes, then it works for seconds then freezes again!! and during the 20 days mentioned above it crashed once.
The movie files of my project are the Nikon's .Mov files and the editing work which I performed included effects such as Color correction (levels) color correction (fast) color correction (Auto) sharpen effect, and stabilizing effect.
I installed the Magic Bullets Suite trial version, and the Neat Video trial version, aiming to purchase either the DeNoiser or the Neat Video (but I tried their effects without saving them to the project).
I used to export parts/ or whole project before finalizing the editing process to be able to monitor on a TV screen (mp4 file format) some of the changes I made in PrPro before being freezed.
Based on my previous 5 years experience using the CS5 Suite I have a strong trust in Adobe, I never thought the problem was in the PrPro application, but rationally I thought it was the graphic card (GT610), and accordingly I purchased yesterday a new Zotac Geoforce GTX 770 (listed by Adobe as an approved card) and I installed it and checked that it is running fine and I checked the processor temperature which was within the normal level.
Only today, I began to think that it might be something wrong with the Adobe Cloud CC 2014 ( a bug or something) and as a result of searching on the internet I could see lot of users since 2014 who were having freezes and crashes with the CC and the CC 2014 versions. That was a shock for me, could it be that until Feb. 2015 the same severe problem still occurs???
Sorry for any inconvenience, looking forward to seeing a solution for that serious problem.Hello Ashraf,
Sorry you didn't get any help on this post. In the future, please contact Adobe Support for 1-1 assistance on issues like this: Contact Customer Care
Thanks,
Kevin -
MSI Big Bang-XPower New Build Compatibility Questons
I am doing my first build, and do not see several components I have selected (some already purchased) for my new system in the MSI compatibility literature for the Motherboard. Can someone please advise if any of the below components will cause issues? I have done much research and believe I am OK, but would like to have confirmation before proceeding. As an FYI, I will be doing video editing with the new system:
1.) Motherboard: MSI Big Bang-XPower LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (purchased)
2.) Video Card: MSI N470GTX Twin Frozr II GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (purchased)
3.) OS Drive: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (purchased)
(I will also have four 1TB drives in raid "10" - 7200 RPM Western Digital SATA 3.0 Gb/s for data storage, working files, etc.) (to be purchased)
4.) CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950 (purchased)
5.) Memory: This one I would like confirmation on but I believe it will work (I like that it is Cas Latency 7 and know I will pay a few more $ for this):
G.SKILL Trident+ Turbulence II 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7T-12GBTDD
DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Timing 7-8-7-24 Cas Latency 7
Voltage: 1.65V
Multi-channel Kit: Triple Channel Kit
Timing: 7-8-7-24
Model #: F3-12800CL7T-12GBTDD
Item #: N82E16820231381
6.) OS: Windows 7 Ultimate (purchased)
7.) The other items are fairly straight forward.
Any feedback on the above will be greatly appreciated, especially the memory.I have two follow-up items from the above (one power supply and one RAM):
1.) I Am between the following 2 power supplies:
- CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($169.99)
- CORSAIR Professional Series AX850 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($194.99)
I am leaning toward the first one, I do not believe the second is worth $25 more - comments???
2.) I spent another few hours on RAM selection today. This is driving my crazy...
I spent time today with Intel concerning RAM for the Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield - here is a cc of my log (they obviously have only one recommendation):
You are now chatting with 'Allan'
Allan: Hello. Thank you for using the Intel Customer Support chat service. We are glad to be of service. How can I help you today?
sldwaa: I just purchased in i7-950 Bloomfield and am in the process of purchasing the RAM. I have an MSI Big Bang X-Power MOBO and am running Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit. I have read many posts and Intel spec sheets and I understand Intel does not recommend anything other than 1066 / 1.5v VDIMM. Now for my question as I am new to purchasing ram and building PCs. Here are my questions:
1.) I am deciding between 1066 and 1600. The most posts recommend 1600. The obvious alternative is the Intel recommended 1066. I believe if I do not over clock, 1066 will be the ticket. If I buy the 1600, then I can only achieve this by over clocking - correct?
2.) If I buy 1600 and do not over clock, it will perform at 1066 without any negative effects - is this correct? This is assuming XMP is not enabled. I will not be a heavy over clocker, but want the capability just in case.
Allan: the processor supports DDR3-800/1066 at 1.5V
Allan: no other memory is supported... no matter if the board supports 1600 or even 2000mhz
Allan: I remind you that the memory controller is on the processor, this is not integrated on the board
sldwaa: Understood. Follow up question - If I purchase 1066 with the fastest CAS Latency I can find (possibly 7), can I over clock the 1066 (understanding the negative potential effects) or would I still need the 1600 to achieve any over clocking capability?
Allan: I am afraid I cannot answer that... I cannot comment anything about over clocking
Allan: you will need to search this information on Internet
sldwaa: OK - to summarize you only recommend 1066 at 1.5VDIMM. Anything else, I am on my own, including risks of overheating and instability = correct?
Allan: that is exactly correct
Allan: Intel recommends DDR3-800/1066 at 1.5V
That being said, I guess I am between 1066 with the lowest CAS Letency I can find at 3x4GB, or go with the 1600 (I researched and agree 3x4GB is better than 6x2GB). As intel is against the second, based on what I am reading, I am leaning toward 1066. If so, can I overclock the 1066 to something higher or is this the max speed? Help! -
New system for CS5.5? Some advice please?
Hi- I am getting a new system built specifically to work with Production Premium CS5.5.
I'm afraid I know next to nothing about hardware!
These are some specs that the guys in the shop said would work?
Do you have any comments- will it work? Any better suggestions?
Many thanks
scott
Gigabyte GA-X58-USB3 Intel X58 Socke1t. 0103 66 on1b5o0a.r00
Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz Socket 13616. 080M B Cac2h3e2 .R00
6 x Corsair Vengeance 4GB DDR3 1600MHz/P6C.30-01 2800 M3e0m.o00
2 x Western Digital WD20EARS 2TB Hard Dr2i.v0e0 SATAII7 85.400
COOLERMASTER RC-502 CENTURION 5 II M1I.D0I0 TOWER 6C0A.S0
OCZ MODXSTREAM PRO 600W SILENT SLI, 1A.T0X02 MODUL6A6R. 00
XFX Radeon HD6770 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E 2.11. 0G0r aphic1s1 2C.a00
MS WINDOW 7 HOME PREMIUM 64-BIT 1PK 1O.E0M0 85.00
LG BLU-RAY 10 X LIGHTSCRIBE BDRW I1N.T0E0R NAL RE7T2A.I00
There are several major problems with that build:
1) The two WD Green hard drives are too slow for video editing. They spin at only 5400 RPM, not 7200 RPM.
2) The i7-950 and X58 combo is about to become obsolesced by the new LGA 2011 Sandy Bridge-E platform with the X79 chipset.
3) Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.x still does not support OpenCL GPU acceleration at all. In fact, the GPU accelerated mode requires an Nvidia CUDA GPU with 896MB or more VRAM in order to even work at all. As a result, the ATi GPU-equipped systems will run CS5.x only in software-only MPE mode, which is much, much slower than the GPU accelerated mode. In other words, the HD 6770 will be equally as slow as integrated motherboard graphics (as far as performance in CS5.x is concerned).
4) Windows 7 Home Premium will not see anywhere near the full 24GB of RAM. In fact, that OS is capped at 16GB of RAM total. You will need Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate in order to use more than 16GB of RAM.
5) That 600W PSU is nowhere near powerful enough to run a video editing system of this class. In fact, that OCZ PSU is not even that good quality-wise. You will need a reallty good quality 750W to 850W 80-Plus Gold rated PSU.
In other words, the guys in the shop know little to nothing about the stuff that they sell. -
New video editing pc.. will this work ? i'm new here, please help me out
hi everybody my name is mark, . i really hope i write and express myself correctly
first of all i'd like to say i love this forum. there are some brilliant ppl here with great advice.
special props to Mr Harm Millaard.. wow u know sum serious s*** !
i'm a pro musician my thing has always been protools, recording production etc. its time for me to get into video using adobe premiere pro
mostly i'll be doing my own music vids for my solo projects and for my band as well as professionally done as possible. i'm a nebie at all things video but i'm totally obsessive when it come to creative projects. it helps with the learning curve (:
this is my courant rig setup
http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131405
http://CPU INTEL|CORE I5 750 2.66G R
http://MEM 4Gx2|GSKILL F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
3 Wd hd's 160 500 and 640 gb's
2 monitors 22' hanns g and a 19 "something
i believe a 400 or 450 w powersupply
stock vidow card
2 cd/dvd
i think that covers the basics
AFTER OVER A WEEK OF RESEARCHING AND NO SLEEP THIS IS WHAT I CAME UP WITH FOR MY NEW RIG
http://ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
http://G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-12GBRL
http://HITACHI Deskstar 7K3000 HDS723020BLA642 (0f12115) 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC
http://Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
total 1,399.92 i'm pretty much at my budget max
will this setup be able to handle both my protools and adobe premier cs5? am i missing something ?
what would be the best HD set up wise for max audio/video performance ? i was thinking a dual boot ?
with 2 new hd's i'll have 5 all told.
3 for video... 150 veloci raptor 2tb Hitachi and WD 640
..2 for protools... the wd 160 and the WD 500
i guess i'm looking for the best way to set up my rig for max audio/video performance and pass the information on to my cuz who's in the pc building biz his thing is gaming not so much video editing.
i really hope i wrote this out correctly so everybody can understand what i'm trying to say and will be able to give me the proper guidance i need
let the suggestions begin
thank u for your time
Message was edited by: iammajickthanks for your support guys. it now looks like i'm changing up my rig again. looks like were going to be going with a RAID set up
3 x http://Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
1 http://Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive which i already have on the rig i'm using
my cousin gino orffitelli who's mainly a gamer builder for his company ePro had this to say in an email to me last nite.. he gave kool props to the adobe forums
'finally had a few min read through your email and skim the links you made in adobe'.....'as far as storage is concerend i believe the mobo's your looking at support RAID and from what i read thanks to your links, RAID 5 offers the best performance and saftey which means 4 HDD's.....' with the knowlege base your building and contacts u have you and i may just open a new direction for ePRO'.....
i try my hardest to understand RAID but since i'm a novice with computers its really hard for me to grasp it...http://forums.adobe.com/thread/525263
my brain is in overload insane trying to process all this (:
so guys... RAID 5 with the rest of the hardware i'll be using ?
like i said i'd like to have the max performance for my audio/vidio rig.
thanks again guys
mark -
New to PRE and need feedback on my system build
I played around with the trial version on my old computer and decided to go ahead and purchase PRE 9 and PSE 9 together. I have built a few PC's in my day and recently completed my current build running my purchased software. I was hoping that I could get some feedback on what I have and what I might change to get better performance. PRE is very jittery when scrolling through content and playing back the timeline. Sometimes I don't even see a transition. I am new to video editing in general and capture in HD with my Canon HF S100, so I am planning on editing in HD as well. Sorry for the NoBo question, but my machine smokes until I fire up PRE. I may be using the application incorrectly, but I am assuming that my low end video card, is an area of concern/bottleneck. I don't want to blow $800 on a Quadro 4000 if it won't make a huge difference, but I assume it will. Thanks in advance for any and all help.
High level build
MoBo - ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
PSW - CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-620HX 620W ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 SLI Certified
Proc - Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
Mem - 12GB Mushkin Enhanced Redline 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
Drives
OS - Crucial RealSSD C300
Media - Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb
OS - Windows 7 x64 SP1
Video - NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
Detailed DxDiag output below.
System Information
Time of this report: 2/27/2011, 19:30:14
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/25/10 14:57:23 Ver: 08.00.15
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.1GHz
Memory: 12288MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 12280MB RAM
Page File: 8908MB used, 15647MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode
Display Devices
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9500 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Display Memory: 4069 MB
Dedicated Memory: 997 MB
Shared Memory: 3071 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: ASUS VH242
Monitor Id: ACI24FA
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.5896 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.12.5896
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/10/2010 04:38:00, 12471400 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Driver Strong Name: oem3.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section003:8.17.12.5896:pci\ven_10de&dev_0640
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
D3D9 Overlay: Supported
DXVA-HD: Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: EnabledThis ARTICLE will give you some tips on your I/O sub-system setup for video-editing.
As for the Scratch Disks, think of those as the "working files," that PrE produces and needs to edit video. Part of those will be the Media Cache, where you will have the CFA (Conformed Audio) files, the PEK files for Waveform Display, etc. For a bit of background on Conforming, see this ARTICLE.
Now, for ultimate performance, one would want to spread the I/O load over as many discs, as is possible. The OS and programs accessing the HDD is a given, but you have already segregated them onto C:\. Then, one has the Scratch Disks, which also require quite a bit of access. The media is accessed often for many operations, and then there is the need to Export/Share. In a perfect world, one would allocate a separate HDD for each of those operations, with one caveat: when one has finished a Project, there will then be the cleanup of the files. If one has spread the Project over multiple physical HDD's, they must go to each, and do the cleanup. OTOH, and at the sacrifice of ultimate spead with I/O access, if one has placed their Project into a root folder, say [Project Name], and then accepted the default location for the Scratch Disks, for Same As Project, all they have to do is Delete that Project Name root folder, and everything else comes with it. As I migrate Projects between computers, I locate everything in a Project Name root folder on an external, and then everything is below that folder structure. For media, I leave my Assets on an NAS, and just Copy over what I need to the various media sub-folders, like Video, Stills, Music, Audio, etc. I give up performance, but have everything that I need to move the Project about, and cleanup is easy. In my case, each external has a permanent drive letter assignment in the OS of each computer, so that drive Z:\ is always Z:\ on each computer, and regardless of what else might be plugged-in to that computer. Makes life simple for me.
Hope that this helps.
Good luck,
Hunt -
New NLE Build Specs I've Selected for My Client - Comments?
OK, after mucho work, I've come up with what seems to be the best bang for the buck for my video conversion client who needs new systems.
Here's what I selected:
Antec DF-85 Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case (tons of space, USB 3.0 ports, CPU cooler cutout, 9 internal 3.5" drives, 7 fans, long video cards fit) - $156
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-1000HX 1000W Power Supply (any chance I need more than 1000W?) - $230
ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (Note: only available board supported by BlackMagic for their DeckLink/IntensityPro video capture cards, so this is pretty much it unless I want to chance a non-supported board with equivalent specs) - $290
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950 (I intend to overclock to some degree, probably under 4GHz) - $270
Prolimatech Armageddon CPU Cooler - Intel Socket LGA 775/1156/1366 Heatsink, 140mm Fan Compatible (Selected this one because one Web site review of the ASUS board specifically used this cooler which fit nicely without covering up the 6 RAM slots; also this one gets good reviews everywhere) - $65
XIGMATEK eXTREME SILENT Series XSF-F1452 140mm Case Fan x 2 (for the above cooler to improve cooling) - $20
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 24GB (6 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T2-24GBRL - $285
Palit NE5X56T01142-1041F GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (lots of DDR5 RAM, 384 cores, 256-bit memory path, well reviewed) - $280
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD322GJ/U 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (for OS and programs) - $43
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive x 4 (for RAID 0) - $260
SONY Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 8X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Burner Blu-ray Burner BD-5300S-0B - OEM - $110
Link Depot 39.37" SATA II Cable with Locking Latch Model LD-SATA-1 $4 X 5 Drives + DVD Burner - $24
Total Cost: $2033.00
With Windows 7 Professional OEM and an Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 upgrade, that adds another $434 making a total of $2,467. I think the client can handle that. He will also probably get a Matrox MX02 Mini or a BlackMagic DeckLink/IntensityPro card to handle video capture. I'm leaving that decision up to his tech. If he needs to go to a full CS5 Production Suite, then he needs to tack on another $500-600 over the Premiere Pro upgrade price which will bring him up to $3,000 for the whole system.
He needs to replace three machines in the video department, but my guess is we'll start with one, maybe two, and the productivity improvement over the crap he's using now may mean he doesn't need a third one. Considering he's upgrading from six-year-old+ Pentium 4 machines with 2GB RAM, no RAID, Adobe Premiere 1.5, these new systems should come as a shock. Hopefully the price for the upgrade won't be as big a shock.
I welcome any comments on the system laid out above, positive or negative.
I know I could improve this slightly with say, 10,000 RPM Velociraptors for the OS drive, and stuff like that, but I've tried to keep this pretty vanilla to hold the cost down.
Let me know what you guys think.On the other hand, I just found this Tom's Hardware memory benchmark article which shows the difference between various RAM speeds and timings while doing video editing with Adobe Premiere CS4. The differences are minimal at best maybe 2-3 percent.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-scaling-i7,2325-10.html
It's not clear to me that the difference is worth either the difference in cost or more importantly how much work it might take to get a stable system.
In the last half hour I've looked up a LOT of Web postings about the ASUS P6X58D Premium and 1600 memory. It's all over the place as to whether the issues people have had are with the RAM, the CPU memory controller, or their memory settings. I don't want to go through a couple weeks of RMAing memory back and forth to get it right. I need to have this machine up within the next 6 weeks and the client isn't going to be able to order for another two weeks.
For one thing, if I decide to go with the 970, I'll have less need to overclock. I was not intending to overclock the 950 that high anyway, and if I go to the 970, I can overclock even less. So whether the RAM can be speeded up may not matter as much.
I definitely won't buy multiple sets like you did, I've heard too many warnings about that not being guaranteed by the vendors.
I also just found this Adobe Hardware Forum post which addresses this issue:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/695662?tstart=60
I quote Mr. Bowen:
Quote
When the I7 platform released, Intel's official supported specs were really low. They only officially supported DDR3 1333 and that was with 3 sticks of ram only. If you had 6 sticks then the supported clock speed of the ram was 1066. Intel also only supported a QPI of 4.8 on most cpu's accept for the top 1 or 2 which had a QPI support of 6.4. The Motherboard manufacturers decided to go well beyond those specs because they were way to conservative and to push their products. The manufacturers like ASUS supported DDR3 1600 or even DDR2000 but only in 3 stick configurations. If you had any problems with 6 stick configurations at DDR3 1600 or higher, they would respond they only supported specs greater than Intel's with 3 stick configurations( I was surprised they hid behind that back then when I talked to the engineers of one of the companies). This does not mean that it will not work. It just means you wont get support from the motherboard manufacturer if you have problems. It really was a joke. So much so one of the companies I can't name here changed their website to reflect that just because I brought the subject up and told them this policy was no where on their website at all when we tested their board.
So what does this all mean. The QVL is the Qualified Vendor List. This is the hardware officially tested by the motherboard manufacturer's R&D or tech support. This hardware is approved to work without issues and will be fully supported by their tech support. The caveat is though only in the officially supported configuration. Normally as long as you buy ram off the QVL list, you can run those in 6 stick configurations and you likely wont have problems as long as you set the bios up right. If you buy ram that is not listed on the QVL now days with DDR3 then it's a gamble on whether it will work or not without issues unless you have some company like us that tests all of this and works with the Ram company's engineering to fix any problems. So the best advice here for DYI is stick to the QVL but remember you are not locked into the official supported config. That is way to conservative. I hope that helps.
End Quote
It's that "as long as you set the bios right" bit that concerns me. I don't want to spend two days tweaking the RAM settings as well as the CPU overclock considering the performance gain is likely to be less than 5%.
Further comments on this? -
Please help: Premiere has slowwed to a crawl.
Hi, I am a photographer and video editor. I built my computer about 15 months ago to work with CS5 and the Mecury Playback Engine. In the past few months it has been slowing down at an alarming rate. Over the holidays I created a video montage of pictures from my brother's wedding and Premiere kept stopping with an error that read something like 'Open GL driver failed' adding something about 'lack of memory'. I had to switch to software mode and avoid playing the timeline (to avoid rendering each photo, there were well over 100) so I could finish it in time. And now a project I am getting paid for will no longer play back smoothly. I get about 1 second of smooth video before it starts jumping and freezing all together. The audio continues but the picture does not. Here's what I have.
Intel Core i7 950 (quad core) 3.07GHz
12.0 GB Ram
Windows 7 Pro 64bit SP1 fully updated
Nvidia GTX 470 w/ 1280 MB GDDR5
current driver. 285.62
C: 60GB SSD for system and programs 4.64GB free
E: 300GB 10000 rpm 16MB cache VeliciRaptor Drive for Project files preview files/scratch disks and such 134GB free
G: 1TB 7200 rpm 32MB cache Barracuda Drive for Assets 158GB Free
I have 2 other drives but they are not used in this workflow.
Page file = 36859 automatically managed
My Power Usage plan is set to High Performance.
I am editing in Premiere Pro CS5.5.2 (003 (MC: 258762))
The programs I have running in the background are: Realtek HD Audio Manager, NVIDIA Settings, Zone Alarm (security), Dropbox 1.1.45, Spyder3Utility, and as of today Spybot.
The Project is a short 10-12 min Documentary type video. It's mostly interview footage with various B-roll interspersed. The main timeline I use is 4 video and 4 audio layers. The fourth layer in both is turned off to holding stuff. There is not much in them. Layer 1 is pieces of another timeline. That timeline consists of 2 layers of interview footage from 2 angles with a third audio track from the zoom recorder all synced and color corrected. I adjust opacity here to pick which camera angle to use, but cut this timeline together in my main timeline to minimize sync problems and added color correction steps. In the main timeline, video layers 2 and 3 are B-roll. audio layers 2 and 3 include one short sound effect and a few pieces of music. Some of the music has been slowed or sped up to fit the timing needed. Premiere quickly renders that sound when I start up the project or make changes to those files in the timeline.
All audio is either MP3 or WAV files.
Most of the video is Canon DSLR footage (5D mkII, 7D, and 60D I believe). All 1920x1080 30p (a couple 24p by accident) there are some Jpegs, TIFFs, and one PNG file. Many of the pictures are housed in sub timelines with 2 layers. one with a moving picture and the other with a Gaussian blurred version in the background to fill the frame. There are some timelapeses that are of various sizes but nothing smaller than full HD. 2 are MP4 videos and the rest are quicktime.
All my timelines are preset for DSLR footage at 1920x1080 30fps.
Almost the entirety of my timeline has the little yellow line over it indicating that we should be hardware rendering this footage.
A few things about how I have worked with this computer. I built it for CS5. When I first started using it, it was brilliant. Lately The whole computer has slowed, a lot. last week I uninstalled some extraneous programs and tweaked somethings. Most everything on the computer is now running back up to snuff. Premiere is not. It is too the point that I cannot edit and a new edit of the project is due this Friday. When I first started using this computer I got some noise from the GPU and CPU fans when I would load up a heavy duty project. That made sense it was making the computer work. Now I get almost no noise from either fan and the thing runs like crap when I am editing. This doesn't make sense to me. Has something changed with an update of Premiere that changes the way it leverages the hardware, cause I doesn't seem to be doing that at all. Or might I have unknowingly flipped a switch somewhere that changed that leverage. In the Project Settings the Video Rendering and Playback is still set to Mercury Playback Engine GPU Accelerated. On the same line I have noticed much less fan noise when rendering with Media Encoder. I can't say I've seen a huge hit in performance there, but it doesn't seem to be taxing the GPU like it used to.
Please help if you can. I don't have time in my life to start the computer over with a fresh install on windows. Thanks so much.
MichaelMichael,
When you post to the CS5/5.5 Forum, also list the specs. on your Virtual Memory (Page File), how it's managed, and where it is located. With only 4.6GB of free-space on your C:\, if your Page File is located there, you have run out of space on that SSD.
I would also suggest editing without Zone Alarm and the spyware sweeper, and any active anti-virus program.
Good luck, and see you in the PrPro Forum.
Hunt
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