Update from OS 10.1.5 Tiger?

My new iPod shuffle doesn't work, and I assume it's because my iMac still uses OS 10.1.5. I've been told that if I simply buy the $69 Tiger kit and follow the instructions on the kit, the installation is a simple procedure and the iPod shuffle will then work. I've also been told by another technician that it's not possible to upgrade directly from 10.1.5 to Tiger without losing all document and music files stored on the hard drive, so I'll need to back up everything and reinstall the files on Tiger, and that the procedure should be done by a knowledgeable technician or user to avoid problems. I'd very much appreciate any authoritative advice on what I should do. Thanks very much.

My new iPod shuffle doesn't work, and I assume it's
because my iMac still uses OS 10.1.5.
Yep.
I've been told
that if I simply buy the $69 Tiger kit and follow the
instructions on the kit, the installation is a simple
procedure and the iPod shuffle will then work.
Whoa! Danger, Will Robinson, danger!
1 some older iMacs need a firmware update.
2 OS X 10.4 needs a whole lot more RAM than 10.1. If you don't have at least 256MB installed, the system's gonna barf. And if you don't have at least 384 installed, while the system will work, you may not like the speed at which it works.
3 Tiger likes lots of hard drive space in which to roam. Early iMacs don't do FireWire, and the internal hard drives fitted to them at the factory are... puny. If you don't have at least 10GB free, you're gonna be sorry.
4 iMacs don't do USB 2.0. Be warned that connecting an iPod, even a Shuffle, by USB 1.1 is a S--L--O--W experience.
I've
also been told by another technician that it's not
possible to upgrade directly from 10.1.5 to Tiger
without losing all document and music files stored on
the hard drive, so I'll need to back up everything
and reinstall the files on Tiger, and that the
procedure should be done by a knowledgeable
technician or user to avoid problems.
He's right that you must reformat; Tiger likes HFS+ with journalling. It can live without the journalling, but it doesn't like it. (Let me rephrase that: it DOESN'T LIKE IT. Really.)
You can probably back up your drive yourself, except that connections to an older iMac are likely to be scarce. Newer iMacs, with FireWire, work much better. Playing with the internal drive is best left to pros.
Does your machine have FireWire? If so, life's easy.
1 get a cloner, such as either SuperDUper! or Carbon Copy Cloner. (I've used both. I currently use SD! as my standard backup utility.)
2 get an external FireWire drive. (I'd go with a 160 or 200 GB drive.)
3 use the cloner to clone over your stuff.
4 install Tiger on the FireWire drive.
5 boot from the FireWire drive.
You're golden.
Things are a lot more difficult if you don't have FireWire.
I'd very much
appreciate any authoritative advice on what I should
do. Thanks very much.

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I have pretty much the latest versions of all my software, as far as 10.3.9, anyhow. Mostly, I used Adobe and Macromedia programs, and I use Eudora (I have the latest one- 6.2 - I know they've stopped updating it.)
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Welcome to Apple Discussions.
It is worth doing the upgrade to Tiger. Most or perhaps all your Classic applications will work OK. I still have Tiger & classic works well. You will need the appropriate Tiger retail installation dvd. After installation do all the upgrades. I suggest if the Tiger version you get is less than 10.4.11 that you download the Combo 10.4.11 update from Apple downloads. Then use Software Update to check for any other updates needed. You should run Disk utility after each upgrade and correct permissions.
Neville

Updating from 10.2.8, ejects Tiger DVD

I am trying to update my OS from 10.2.8 to Tiger. I have an emac G4 with its original DVD CD-RW/DVD-ROM (vendor: HL-DT-ST). When I click restart to run the installation, before the computer shuts down, it shows "you have inserted a disk containing no volume that mac OSX can read" with buttons ignore or eject. Even if I click ignore, the computer ejects Tiger when it restarts and boots up my originial operating system. I can play DVDs w/ no problem. I tried downloading superdrive but I received a message saying my computer didn't need it. I restarted holding the "C" key. I see a file folder with a question mark and the OS logo and then it boots up the OS. I also switched to system 9.0 and that said it didn't recognize the Tiger DVD. Eekk!
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ceci,
in this case the boot-rom cannot detect a bootable system on the DVD. There might be different reasons for this behaviour:
1. Bad burn (this happens once in a while)
2. scratches on the DVD
3. hardware problems wwith the DVD-drive
For the cases 1 and 2 you might get a replacement disk from Apple. Contact the Apple Store or go to one.

Update from 10.2.8 to Tiger

I have an iMac v2.1 with OS X 10.2.8
I have a new Tiger install disc, v.10.4.3, but it will not install.
I am installing from an external DVD superdrive.
I keep getting a message that the volume needs to be repaired,
and the installer cannot repair it.
I have run repair from the original install disc 3-4 times,
and it verifies that everything is repaired and ok.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.
Abe

Hopefully there's no info you need on there.
If not & you can afford to ERASE it, then...
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc that came with your computer, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the Erase tab.
4. Click the disclosure triangle to the left of the hard drive icon to display the names of your hard disk volumes and partitions.
5. Select your Mac OS X volume.
6. Highlight the drive, (top icon), select Erase Tab, then Format type... MacOS Extended Journalled, select the Security Options button, choose Zero Out Data, Erase... after completion hopefully you'll be able to install.

Question about the updates from a computer-moron

Hey, um, I see there are a few versions of the OS X update, so I'm wondering, what's the "combo" version? And which should I download? And is it neccesary to download it?

It's only necessary to download the update if you wish to update to the new version. You can do so via Software Update or you can download the standalone updaters directly from Apple's download site. There are two basic versions of the updaters: The Delta version can be used to update only from 10.4.8. The Combo updater can be used to update from any prior version of Tiger (10.4 - 10.4.8.) Combo updaters include all prior updates. Delta updates only include the code needed to update from the last version.
Before updating you should:
1. Make a bootable backup of your current system to an external Firewire drive.
How to Clone Using Restore Option of Disk Utility
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the backup or destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (journaled, if available) and click on the Erase button. This step can be skipped if the destination has already been freshly erased.
4. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
5. Select the backup or destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
6. Select the startup or source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
2. Repair your hard drive and permissions. You will need to boot from your OS X Installer Disc to do this.
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer. Now shutdown the computer for a couple of minutes and then restart normally.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.0 for Tiger) and/or TechTool Pro (4.5.2 for Tiger) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
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HT1338 Can anyone tell me how to find what OS I'm using on the Mac? Tiger or Leopard? Also, how do I update from 10.6.8 to the latest version?

Can anyone tell me how to find what OS I'm using on the Mac?
Tiger or Leopard?
Also, how do I update from 10.6.8 to the latest version?

Go to the Apple menu and select "About This Mac". You will get a window similar to this one -
You current OS X version number will be shown as I've marked.
OS X 10.4.x is Tiger, 10.5.x is Leopard, 10.6.x is Snow Leopard, 10.7.x is Lion, and 10.8.x is Mountain Lion.
Whether or not you can go to the latest OS X version depends upon your hardware -
You will need to purchase the retail set for the OS X version you want; there is no pint in getting and installing any intermediate versions. Once the retail version has been installed, you can update it to the latest release for that version via download updater.

Will update from Tiger affect Automatic Software Update?

Hi guys.
It's my first question here. I purchased a MacBook approx 3 years ago from Apple Store which got Tiger(10.4.11) installed.
I would like to update to Snow Leopard because I need to upgrade from Adobe CS3 to CS5. My question is if I buy the Snow Leopard disc from Apple Store and upgrade from Tiger will automatic software update and other stuff work?
Appreciate your help.

Chubbs75 wrote:
My question is if I buy the Snow Leopard disc from Apple Store and upgrade from Tiger will automatic software update and other stuff work?
If you are asking if Software Update will automatically update Snow Leopard & other Apple-supplied software to the latest versions during or immediately after the upgrade, the answer is no. The upgrade should preserve whatever preferences you set for Software Update in Tiger, so depending on them you may see no automatic update notifications, notifications only after the interval for checks you have set has elapsed, or whatever.
Remember that it is highly recommended that you backup your HD, or at least your important data, before applying any upgrade or update. If you do that, you may want to run Software Update as soon as you verify that the upgrade went as expected, & let it recommend & install all the updates your system needs to bring it up to date.

Updating from Tiger to Snow Leopard without buying the Mac Box Set

Is it possible to update from Tiger to Snow Leopard without buying the Mac Box Set? My sister already has iLife 09 so I could borrow it and simply buy Snow Leopard. Is that possible or would it still violate the licensing agreement?

R C-R:
Barry Hemphill wrote:
You will note that Apple says that the upgrade is for OS X 10.5 users.
Note that this does not say Snow Leopard is not an upgrade for 10.4 users.
Did you read item C from the license link you posted (underline was added for emphasis)?
Leopard Upgrade Licenses. If you have purchased an Upgrade for Mac OS X Leopard license, then subject to the terms and conditions of this License, you are granted a limited non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer _as long as that computer has a properly licensed copy of Mac OS X Leopard already installed on it._ If you have purchased a Family Pack Upgrade for Mac OS X Leopard license, then subject to the terms and conditions of this License, you are granted a limited non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on up to a maximum of five (5) Apple-branded computers at a time as long as those computers are located in the same household (as defined above), are used by persons who occupy that same household, and each such computer has a properly licensed copy of Mac OS X Leopard already installed on it. The Family Pack Upgrade for Mac OS X Leopard License does not extend to business or commercial users.
The OP asked about using the upgrade (and, obviously, try to avoid buying the box set) to move from OS X 10.4 to OS X 10.6. I mentioned the license agreement to allow the OP to make their own decision.
Barry

I am getting blocks of black, vertical broken lines to right of cursor, around applications on desktop and over text on internet. I recently updated from OS X Tiger to Leopard on my G5 powermac. Can anyone advise how to get rid of the blocks of lines?

I am getting blocks of black, vertical broken lines to right of cursor, around applications on desktop and over text on internet. I recently updated from OS X Tiger to Leopard on my G5 powermac. Can anyone advise how to get rid of the blocks of lines?

What graphics card is installed?
Have you looked inside to see if the interior is dusty?
Is the graphics card dusty?
If equipped, is the fan on the graphics card turning?
Leopard uses the graphics card harder than Tiger, so weakness in the graphics card is more easily shown.

Upgrade From 10.1.2 to Tiger

I have a friend who was using her flat panel iMac mainly in OS9. She wanted to upgrade to Tiger and has been sold the OS but is now worrying that she will have to wipe her entire hard drive to install it. She doesn't want to do this. Will the discs perform an upgrade?

Hi Danktuft ,
First make sure you buy the retail full install version of Tiger (black DVD). You cannot use hardware specific disks that shipped with another computer (gray).
You cannot directly upgrade from 10.1.x to 10.4.x. You will have to either reformat the drive (recommended) or do an Erase&Install. In both cases all your data will be lost, so make sure you have a complete backup!!!
If your computer can boot into OS 9 natively:
I suggest to reformat the drive using the OS 9 install CDs. By reformatting the drive with the OS 9 disk you are safe that all required OS 9 hardware drivers will be installed properly.
0. BACKUP YOUR ENTIRE HARD DISK - it will be completely erased during the following procedure!
1. Boot up from the OS 9 install CD and reformat the drive as Apple Extended (HFS+).
2. Install OS 9 and update it to 9.2.2: Mac OS 9: Available Updates
3. Confirm you can boot into OS 9
4. Upgrade your firmware: Firmware Upgrades
5. Insert the Tiger install DVD and reboot while holding down th c-key.
6. Once the installer has started select "disk utility" from the menu.
7. Select "repair OS 9 privilegies" from the menu.
8. Repair the disk.
9. Quit disk utility and proceed with a normal install (do not select Erase&Install because this would erase your OS 9)
10. After the reboot Repair permissions!
11. Download and apply the Mac OS X Update 10.4.8 Combo PPC.
12. Repair permissions again and finally run Software Update from the Apple menu to install all remaining updates (yes, you should install all at once because only the software update app knows the exact order in which they have to be installed).
Good luck!
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Finding Update from Mac OS 9.2.1 to 9.2.2

It appears that Apple no longer has this update from 9.2.1 to 9.2.2 in their download section. Can anyone out there refer me to where I can get the update to 9.2.1. I'm also upgrading the Mac OS X system side to Mac OS Tiger X 4.11 and I don't know if classic 9.2.2 is included since I just ordered it the Tiger upgrade today.

but anybody providing a link to Apple SW that is not on Apple's site wouldn't work I don't think, and I don't find any on Apple's site at the moment.
That's what I thought too, but this thread may provide some surprises as well as an answer to the OP's question. Alternative source of OS9 updaters - https://discussions.apple.com/message/16786736#16786736

Upgrading G4 Powerbook from 10.3.9 to Tiger.

Hi,
I haven't posted for a while, but I'm looking to upgrade my Powerbook for the last time, from 10.3.9 to Tiger.
I can't afford a new machine at the moment, so I upgraded my HD and Superdrive, to the best spec I could get at the time.
I don't want to go straight to Leopard, as I don't think it would run very well on my old Powerbook (plus I don't want to have to update all my software!), so I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on upgrading to the last version of Tiger (10.4.11)?
The main thing that worries me is the old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" thing.
I remember the logic board/lower RAM slot problem that seemed to raise it's ugly head some where around the 10.4.4 update. Although there was no particular evidence that it was this particular update that caused the problem on the G4 Power PC Powerbooks,I'm still a bit worried as I'd rather not lose the lower RAM slot, if there is any chance that Tiger might have caused it!
My machine was made in Jan 2004, and aside from a few minor problems, it's been fine. I was wondering if anyone out there with the 1.25Ghz model could give me some idea of their experiences, using Tiger on this particular model?
I like to try and keep up with the technology, and I've heard that upgrading the OS can make the computer seem "snappier" (not so much of the "spinning beachball of death"). Plus, I know I can't use a new ipod with anything less than 10.4.
Any help, gratefully appreciated. Thanks.

Thanks eww,
I have Kingston RAM in both slots, 2 512MB chips. I tried cheaper RAM, but the 1.25 machine is extremely "picky" about RAM since my model supports "bus slewing" (which I believe means it cycles between full, and half power when in the "automatic" mode).
I had problems with other RAM, and my machine didn't like having one of the original Hynix 256MB chips, and one of the Kingston ones in the machine at the same time. Since I upgraded to the Kingston PBG433 type of RAM (which I believe Apple often use), I've had no problems.
I assume that Tiger would have no issues with this type of RAM, so I should be OK. Thanks for your advice.

Poor performance since 10.3.9 update from 10.3.8 -- need tune-up?

I've tried 10.3.9 for most of this month, just booted from my 10.3.8 backup, and there's just no getting around the fact that performance has suffered greatly since I updated from 10.3.8 to 10.3.9.
I can go back to 10.3.8 but it will be a long and tedious process (and will keep me from using an important application AFAIK) if anyone can help tune up 10.3.9 I'll be grateful.
Here's the problems.
1. Extraordinarily slow internet. Doesn't matter if I'm on dialup or using the library's wi-fi broadband. Safari is practically unusable. Firefox is barely better.
* Safari times out 7 or 8 times out of 10 urls. It first drops down a dialog box saying the server can't be found and when I click OK it then proceeds to load the page. This is on dialup or the free library wifi.
* iTunes - it takes 2 hours to update my podcasts at the library under 10.3.9 (no updates to iTunes) and I never had it take longer than 40 mins under 10.3.8.
* FTP - I don't recall the times anymore, but I've given up trying to use FTP at the library because it seems as slow as at home on dialup. If I need to FTP I do it over night on dialup.
2. Applications startup very slow. No less than 10 or 12 bounces before anything launches.
3. I can't burn CDs from iTunes any more.
Before updating to 10.3.9 I backed up, ran Disk Warrior, repaired permissions, and quit all other applications. I used Software Update to install the updates including QT 7.1.6 but not iTunes 7. [Software Update is showing the installed updates log as empty. :/ ] I repaired permissions and ran the crons afterwards.
Since then I've run Disk Warrior, ran Onyx to repair permissions, run chrons, empty all caches numerous times. I've zapped the PRAM. Checked for font duplicates. Disk Warrior again. Onyx again. Repeat.
Anything else I can do? Thanks.

Marlinespike:
I have been following the conversation, although not responding. Here are the options as I see them:
You can continue to trouble shoot your affected user account in the hope you can sort it out somehow.
You can create a new user account and move your data over.
You can backup, reformat, zero all data, re-insstall and restore.
Since there is obviously some kind of corruption of your user account, I think it best to go to one of the other two options.
I favor the last one. It is a bit more onerous, but it will start you out with a clean slate. If you are interested in going that route, here are some directions you might find helpful
Formatting, Partitioning Zeroing a Hard Disk Drive
Warning! Be sure you have a tested backup of at least your Users folder and any third party applications you do not want to re-install before attempting this procedure.
Boot from the install CD holding down the "C" key.
Select language
Go to the Utilities menu (Tiger) Installer menu (Panther & earlier) and launch Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select Partition tab in main panel. (You are about to create a single partition volume.)
Select number of partition in pull-down menu above Volume diagram.
(Note: 1 partition is normally better for an internal HDD. External HDDs usually have more than one)
Type in name in Name field (usually Macintosh HD)
Select Volume Format as Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
Click Partition button at bottom of panel.
Select Erase tab
Select the a volume under Manufacturer ID (usually Macintosh HD).
Check to be sure your Volume Name and Volume Format are correct.
Select on Security Options button (Tiger) Options button (Panther & earlier).
Select Zero all data. (This process will map out bad blocks on your HDD. However, it could take several hours. You could just do a simple Erase, but I think zeroing will be valuable in your situation.)
Click OK.
Click Erase button
Quit Disk Utility.
Open installer and begin installation process.
Choose to Customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer drivers.
Check box to install BSD Subsystems.
Proceed with installation.
After installation computer will restart for setup.
After setup, reboot computer.
Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select First Aid in main panel.
Click Repair Disk Permissions.
Connect to Internet.
Download and install 10.3.9 Combo Update
Computer will restart after updates.
Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select First Aid in main panel.
Click Repair Disk Permissions.
Good luck.
cornelius

CAN'T UPDATE FROM 10.4 TO 10.4.11

I GOT A CLEAN COPY OF TIGER AND THE INSTALLATION WENT WELL, BUT THE THING IS THAT WHEN
I TRIED TO UPGRADED IT TELLS ME THERE IS AN ERRROR AND THAT ALL THE UPDATES ARE IN THE TRASH AND I ALSO TRYED TO DOWNLOAD IT FROM THE SITE. AND THE SAME THING, IT JUST SAYS THAT THERE SOME ERROR AND TO TRY AGAIN.
I GOT A POWER MAC G4 1.25 2G'S RAM 80GB HDD
CAN YOU GUYS HELP ME??

I respectfully disagree with Silver Edge's suggestion, and just to expand on BDAqua's good advice:
There are no guarantees, but following this procedure when installing updates and upgrades on your Mac, or even re-installing them, will go a long way towards avoiding unpleasant after effects and ‘post-update stress disorder’.
It is also worth noting that it is an extreme rarity for updates to cause upsets to your system, as they have all been extensively beta-tested, but they may well reveal pre-existing ones, particularly those of which you may have been unaware. If you are actually aware of any glitches, make sure they are fixed before proceeding further.
So before you do anything else:
If you can, make a full backup first.
Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
Disconnect all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
At least you can now be reasonably certain that your system does not contain any obvious faults that might cause an update/upgrade to fail.
3. Download the correct version of the COMBO update from the Apple download site. If your car runs on gasoline you would not want to fill the tank with diesel, so don’t try to install the PPC updater on an Intel Mac!
The 10.4.11 Combo Updater for PPC Macs is here: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx10411comboupdat eppc.html
And for Intel Macs: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx10411comboupdat eintel.html
If you prefer to download updates via Software Update in the Apple menu (which would ensure that the correct version for your Mac was being downloaded), it is not recommended to allow SU to install major (or even minor) updates automatically. Set Software Update to just download the updater without immediately installing it. There is always the possibility that the combined download and install (which can be a lengthy process) might be interrupted by a power outage or your cat walking across the keyboard, and an interrupted install will almost certainly cause havoc. Once it is downloaded, you can install at a time that suits you. You should make a backup copy of the updater on a CD in case you ever need a reinstall.
More information on using Software Updater here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1338
Using the Combo updater ensures that all system files changed since the original 10.4.0 are included, and any that may have been missed out or subsequently damaged will be repaired. The Delta updater, although a temptingly smaller download, only takes you from the previous version to the new one, i.e. for example from 10.4.10 to 10.4.11. Software Update will generally download the Delta updater only. The preferable Combo updater needs to be downloaded from Apple's download site.
Now proceed as follows:
4. Close all applications.
5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
6. Install the update/upgrade. Do not under any circumstances interrupt this procedure. Do not do anything else on your computer while it is installing. Be patient.
7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious!
9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them 10.4.10. compliant. Give them a weeks or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 3.
N.B. Do not attempt to install two different updates at the same time as each may have different routines and requirements. Follow the above recommendations for each update in turn.
Lastly, Apple's own article on the subject of Software Update may also be useful reading:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106695
If you are updating Safari (or just have):
Input Managers from third parties can do as much harm as good. They use a security loophole to reach right into your applications' code and change that code as the application starts up. If you have installed an OS update and Safari is crashing, the very first thing to do is clear out your InputManagers folders (both in your own Library and in the top-level /Library), log out and log back in, and try again.
So, disable all third party add-ons before updating Safari, as they may not have been updated yet for the new version. Add them back one by one. If something goes awry, remove it again and check on the software manufacturer's website for news of an update to match your version of Safari. Remember: Tiger up to 10.4.10 used Safari 2.0.4 or, if you downloaded it, Safari 3.0.3 beta. Safari 10.4.11 used Safari 3.0.4 which was not a beta. If Safari 3.1.1 on 10.4.11 is not the fastest browser you have ever used, then something is wrong!
Moreover, trying to revert to Safari 3.0.4 (or worse still, version 2) when running 10.4.11 or 10.5 can have repercussions, as Safari 3.1.1 uses a completely different webkit on which other applications like iChat, Mail and Dashboard Widgets etc also rely, and may entail you having to reinstall an earlier operating system.
Most errors reported here after an update are due to an unrepaired or undetected inherent fault in the system, and/or a third party ad-on. Two such add-on that have been frequently mentioned here for causing such problems are Piclens and Pithhelmet. If you have them, trash them.
Additional tips on software installation here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692
To reiterate, Input Managers reach right into an application and alter its code. This puts the behavior of the affected application outside the control and responsibility of its developers: a recipe for problems. That's not to say that issues absolutely will ensue as a result of Input Managers, but you, as a user, must decide. If the functionality of a specific Input Manager or set thereof is really important to you, you may well choose to assume the associated risk.
Again, the advice is to remove all Input Managers from the following directories:
• /Library/InputManagers
• ~/Library/InputManagers
especially prior to system updates (they can always be added back one-by-one later).

Update from 10.4.10 to 10.4.30 not possible on my hard drive message

I downloaded the combo updater for 10.4.10 to 10.4.30. After clicking on the installer, it tells me it cannot install the updater on this volume and that this volume does not meet the requirements for the update. I have 15GB of free HD space, and it's supposed to replace the space taken by the existing software . . . what is going on?
My computer is iBook G4 1.42 with 1.5GB RAM. Software Update does not find the updater, so that technique won't help.
Here's the specs I am currently running:
System Version: Mac OS X 10.4.10 (8R218)
Kernel Version: Darwin 8.10.0

I won't bother asking why you want to stop at 10.4.3, which was not one of the better versions of Tiger, but the following general guidance on updating may help you resolve your problems.
There are no guarantees, but following this procedure when installing updates and upgrades on your Mac will go a long way towards avoiding unpleasant after effects and ‘post-update stress disorder’.
It is also worth noting that it is an extreme rarity for updates to cause upsets to your system, but they may well reveal pre-existing ones, particularly those of which you may have been unaware. If you are actually aware of any glitches, make sure they are fixed before proceeding further.
So before you do anything else:
If you can, make a full backup first.
Turn off sleep mode for both screen and hard disk.
1. Repair Permissions (in Disk Utility)
2. Verify the state of your hard disk using Disk Utility. If any faults are reported, restart from your install disk (holding down the C key), go to Disk Utility, and repair your startup disk. Restart again to get back to your startup disk.
At least you can now be reasonably certain that your system does not contain any obvious faults that might cause an update/upgrade to fail.
3. Download the correct version of the COMBO update from the Apple download site. If your car runs on gasoline you would not want to fill the tank with diesel, so don’t try to install the PPC updater on an Intel Mac!
If you prefer to download updates via Software Update in the Apple menu (which would ensure that the correct version for your Mac was being downloaded), it is not recommended to allow SU to install major (or even minor) updates automatically. Set Software Update to just download the updater without immediately installing it. There is always the possibility that the combined download and install (which can be a lengthy process) might be interrupted by a power outage or your cat walking across the keyboard, and an interrupted install will almost certainly cause havoc. Once it is downloaded, you can install at a time that suits you. You should make a backup copy of the updater on a CD in case you ever need a reinstall.
Using the Combo updater ensures that all system files changed since the original 10.4.0 are included, and any that may have been missed out or subsequently damaged will be repaired. The Delta updater, although a temptingly smaller download, only takes you from the previous version to the new one, i.e. for example from 10.4.9 to 10.4.10. Software Update will generally download the Delta updater only. The preferable Combo updater needs to be downloaded from Apple's download site.
Now proceed as follows:
4. Close all applications.
5. Unplug all peripherals except your keyboard and mouse.
6. Install the update/upgrade. Do not under any circumstances interrupt this procedure. Do not do anything else on your computer while it is installing. Be patient.
7. When it ask for a restart to complete the installation, click restart. This can take longer than normal, there are probably thousands of files to overwrite and place in the correct location. Do nothing while this is going on.
8. Once your Mac is awake, repair permissions again, and you should be good to go!
If your Mac seems slightly sluggish or ‘different’, perform a second restart. It can’t hurt and is sometimes efficacious!
9. Open a few of your most used applications and check that all is OK. In this connection please remember that not all manufacturers of third party applications and plug-ins, add-ons, haxies etc, will have had time to do any necessary rewrites to their software to make them 10.4.10. compliant. Give them a weeks or two while you regularly check their websites for updates. This applies particularly to plug-ins for Safari 3.
N.B. Do not attempt to install two different updates at the same time as each may have different routines and requirements. Follow the above recommendations for each update in turn.

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