Update group in automatic credit control

Hi Everybody,
Can anyone explain me the meaning of update group in automatic credit control screen OVA8.
Do we have to set this update or it happens when we start usinng?
Regards,
raghu

Hi,
More info on this ,
Credit update for open order/delivery/billing document value
The credit update controls when the values of open sales orders, deliveries, and billing documents are updated.
Note
The open order value is only updated for schedule lines that are relevant for delivery.
Use
You can specify the following update groups for updating credit-related statistics:
Update group 000012
Sales order
Increases open order value from delivery-relevant schedule lines
Delivery
Reduces open order value from delivery-relevant schedule lines
Increases open delivery value
Billing document
Reduces open delivery value
Increases open billing document value
Financial accounting document
Reduces open billing document value
Increases open items
Update group 000015
Delivery
Increases open delivery value
Increases open billing document value
Financial accounting document
Reduces open billing document value
Increases open items
Update group 000018
Sales order
Increases open delivery value
Billing document
Reduces open delivery value
Increases open billing document value
Financial accounting document
Reduces open billing document value
Increases open items
Note
If a document cannot be processed with the update group you specify, the system determines the next possible update it can carry out. For example, you select Update group 000012 which, at delivery, reduces the open order value and increases the open delivery value. Assume that one item in the order is not relevant for delivery. In this case, the system automatically determines Update group 000018 for this item. Update group 000018 increases the open delivery value for the order item. The system uses the confirmed quantity of delivery-relevant schedule lines to update the order value.
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Sadhu Kishore

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What is the significance of the various update groups present in Automatic Credit Mgmt.
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Hi Subba,
Update group is defined /assigned in Credit Control Area Defination (path:IMG>ENTERPRISE STRUCTURE>DEFINITION>FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING>DEFINE CREDIT CONTROL AREA).
Whatever is defined for this field here gets reflected in the OVA8 screen.
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1) update 000012 - open order on time axis, delivery and billing doc value. It means during automatic credit check the system compares the customer's credit limit to the total of open orders as well as the deliveries and billing doc value
2. update 000015 - open deliveries and billing doc value. It means during automatic credit check the system compares the customer's credit limit to the total of open deliveries as well as the billing doc value
3. update 000018 - open delivery for sales orders, billing doc value.
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OVO8: Cr.Ctrl.Area + Rick.Catg + Credit.Group (03)
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OVAD: Dely.credit.grp = 03   (Credit group for goods issue)
AND
GI.Credit.group = 03 (Credit group for goods issue)
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Check credit:
Credit group:
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Credit group for delivery:
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Line with subtotal = 'A':
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Update:
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Hi Gurus,
What is the exact use of update groups ie 000012, 000015 & 000018.
Any table updation takes while creating credit management.
We also assign 000012 update group to autmatic credit control setting.
regards
rakesh

hello, friend.
update group 000012 - open order value on time axis, delivery doc value, billing doc value
- when you create sales order, this increases order value (with sked lines relevant to delivery) in credit exposure
- creation of delivery doc decreases order value while increasing delivery doc value
- createion of billing doc decreases delivery order value while increasing billing value
- release to accounting decreases billing value and increasing FI open items
update group 000015 - open delivery and billing doc value
- like above except update is done not at sales order level but on delivery and billing docs
update group 000018 - open delivery value for sales order, billing doc value
- creation of sales order increases delivery doc value
- creation of billing reduces delivery doc value, increases billing doc value
- creation of accounting doc decreases billing value and increases FI open items
i observe that in most projects where sales transactions are delivery relevant and billing are delivery related, update 000012 is indeed used. i also noticed that orders blocked for credit do not update credit exposure.
in cases where the client wanted sales orders blocked for credit to update exposure, update 000018 was used.
hoped this helped.
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Hi All,
Each automatic credit control must be assigned an update group.
The system allows for no update, as well as update groups 000012, 000015 and 000018.
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Dear Nidhi,
Update group 000012
This is the stadard updategroup.
If you create an order you will get open values in S066. Afterwards you create the delivery, the open order values in S066 will be reduced and you get open delivery values in S067. Afterwards you create the billing document, the open delivery values will be reduced and the open billing values will be created in S067.
If you post the billing document to FI, the open
Update group 000015
No posting to open order values. The order is placed after the delivery is created.
Delivery u2013 increases open delivery value
Invoice u2013 reduces open delivery value and increases open invoice value
Acc. Doc. u2013 reduces open invoice value and increases open items
Used for orders without schedule lines u2013 service items or orders with schedule lines that are not relevant for delivery.
Update group 000018
No posting to open order values, only open delivery values (table S067) are updated
Sales order u2013 increases open delivery value
Invoice u2013 reduces open delivery value and increases open invoice value
Acc. Doc. u2013 reduces open invoice value and increases open items (accounts receivable)
This update group will be always used by order items which are billed order-related (VBAP-FKREL = B for example).
S066 Open orders: credit management table u2013 based on the confirmed quantities on the schedule lines times the credit price. Time period controllable via horizon. (Update report RMCSS066)
S067 Open deliveries/billing documnets u2013 uninvoiced deliveries and open billing documnets (not passed to accounting). Open orders can directly update the S067 (Update report RMCSS067)
Updating from S066 and S067 is hard coded and is not controlled by normal information structure !
I hope that the information are helpful
regards
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About update group in credit management

can any one help of what is the exact work of update group what type of advanatage we get wwhile using update group for ex: 000012,000015,000018.
it is given that for 000012 sales order: increases openitems for orders for delivery relevant schedule lines.
how the system increases the open items for sales orders under update group 000012

Hi
Update groups are used, in order to group different key figures from (e.g) SD module to the structures in Logistics Information System.
What happens is when ever an event take place, e.g billing document raised, it can be customized to populate the LIS Structure (kind of a data warehouse) with key data you are looking for to report and evaluate. This update can be made either immediately or periodically.
The credit relevant data is updated into an information structure, where it is accessed andupdated. Thus each automatic credit control must be assigned an update group. The system allowsfor no update, and update group 000012, 000015 and 000018.
The difference between the three update groups is as follows:
Update group 000012
Sales order: Increases the open order value from delivery-relevant schedule lines
Delivery: Reduces the open order value from delivery-relevant schedule lines and increases the open delivery value
Billing document: Reduces the open delivery value and increases the open billing document value
Financial accounting document: Reduces the open billing document value and increases open items
Update group 000015
Delivery: Increases the open delivery value and increases the open billing document value
Financial accounting document: Reduces the open billing document value and increases open items
Update group 000018
Sales order: Increases the open delivery value
Billing document: Reduces the open delivery value and increases the open billing document value
Financial accounting document: Reduces the open billing document value and increases open items
The decision on which update group to use is based upon the business requirements; however,
update group 000012 is thorough and used in most businesses.

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