Update modes Diffrences & Scenarios

Hi Experts,
I am always confusing about these methods & scenarios when we'll use Direct Delta, Queued Delta, Unserilised V3 Update.
My Humble request is please give me with real time scenarios.
Thanks & Regards
Suresh

Hi Suresh,
now three types of update methods are available in Lo extraction
A.Direct Delta:- In case of Direct delta LUWs are directly posted to Delta Queue (RSA7) and we extract the LUWs from Delta Queue to SAP BW by running Delta Loads. If we use Direct Delta it degrades the OLTP system performance because when LUWs are directly posted to Delta Queue (RSA7) the application is kept waiting until all the enhancement code is executed.
B.Queued Delta: - In case of Queued Delta LUWs are posted to Extractor queue (LBWQ), by scheduling the V3 job we move the documents from Extractor queue (LBWQ) to Delta Queue (RSA7) and we extract the LUWs from Delta Queue to SAP BW by running Delta Loads. Queued Delta is recommended by SAP it maintain the Extractor Log which us to handle the LUWs, which are missed.
D.Un serialized V3 Update: - In case of Un serialized V3 update LUWs are posted to Update Queue ( SM13 ), by scheduling the V3 job which move the documents from Extractor queue ( LBWQ ) to Delta Queue ( RSA7 ) and we extract the LUWs from Delta Queue to SAP BW by running Delta Loads. Since the LUWs are not moved in a Serial fashion from Update queue to Delta queue if we have any error document it considers the subsequent documents and no sorting of documents based on the creation time. It improves the OLTP system performance as it forms a segment for one language.
Hope this helps
Regards
Karthik

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delta ..
initi without DT.
init with DT.
early delta .
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My id is [email protected]

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Full Update-To load Historical Data.
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