Updating LARGE iTunes library

Hi folks
I keep my iTunes library (and associated files) and music folder together on an external hard drive so that I can access my music both at home (PC) and at work (Mac).
I have approaching 400GB of music, so every time iTunes decides to update my the library - for which I am never given a choice or warning - this becomes an extremely time-consuming task. I have just upgraded to Snow Leopard, which I assume is the reason my iTunes library is now updating again, despite there being no changes made to my configuration or additional music added since the last time I loaded the library (on OS 10.4).
Is there any way to speed up this process or skip it? It seems to be initiated every time there is some iTunes update and always take forever. This current update looks like it will take many many hours - it's at about 5% after an hour. It also seems like the process is taking far longer than it ever did on 10.4 - has anybody else noticed this?
I keep two copies of my .itl file, one that has been updated for my Mac and one for my PC. I generally do the following, if anybody has comments or suggestions to make:
0) All music and iTunes files are stored in a parent music directory on my external
1) Update iTunes library on the Mac
2) Duplicate it and all associated files
3) Open the Mac library on my PC, which initiates an automatic library update and creates a Windows version.
4) Duplicate that too - I now have two separate copies of the library, one for each OS to avoid having to update the library every single time I open it on a different platform.
5) Any new music I want to add I do on my Mac system, so the Mac library remains up to date while the Windows version falls behind until I decide to update it by opening the Mac library in Windows.
Basically, I'm looking for any insight into: 1) just what iTunes is updating, 2) why it takes so long (yes I realise 400GB is a LOT of music), 3) how I can improve the process or avoid it, and 4) better solutions to my current setup, given my desire to have my music in a single location but accessible to both my Mac and PC.
Many(!!) thanks

Hi all,
So I do not have a solution per se, but I can tell you a few things.
First, do know this is not due to the size of your libraries, meaning it isn't the size that is triggering the updating. I have a close to 2 TB iTunes Library of both music and video and mine does not do this and even on iTunes updates that it does trigger an update, it doesn't take long at all.
Second, know that how you have your systems setup concerning iTunes and this sharing across systems and OS's isn't officially supported for the software. So blaming iTunes or being ****** at it isn't truly warranted...when you use the software as designed it doesn't act like this...I have dealt with iTunes a lot of the years when I was a Genius for Apple. The software is designed as a one system deal.
To answer a few of the questions - iTunes manages a lot. In the main library xml file it keeps track of all the information about your particular tracks. Also it keeps the files managed in the music folder itself. In addition it monitors for things like Genius Playlists/Mixes and gapless playback. If you are shuttling the information files back and forth from one machine to another it doesn't surprise me iTunes is sitting scanning your files and folders often and it takes forever.
How do you stop it from doing this...honestly, stop doing this....
Accept the fact that it is designed as a one system deal. It may not completely please you, but that is how it was made to function. I also have two systems, though both Macs. I realized long ago, my desktop was always going to be my main iTunes system. That is the system that has everything and it is the one I sync my iPhone to. That is the main hub. For my laptop I just copy over to it some top favorites as far as music and then any videos I want with me when I am out and about. With iTunes 9 Apple made that a whole lot easier with the built-in sharing function.
If you truly MUST have access to it all, you would be best to designate one system as your main hub, then use something like Orb (http://www.orb.com/en) to access your media from your laptop and/or iPhone.
Once you stop moving between systems like you have been doing, I think you will find iTunes will stop behaving in this manner.
Good luck!

Similar Messages

  • Large Itunes Library Crashes Apple TV

    So, loading up my large itunes library (~150 MB) as a source causes the Apple TV to crash. It just sits at the "Loading so-and-so's Library" screen for a few minutes with the spinning wheel and then reboots itself. It goes all the way back to where you have to choose the language and resolution. The host computer's itunes continues to work fine. I've tried every fix under the sun, including restarting to factory settings. Apple, get this fixed please!

    actually, no it hasn't been solved. It worked for about a day, but now it's back to the same issue. I suppose if i recreated the library it might work again, but with the size of my library, that's an overnight process. I ended up just creating a separate library for the movies, and that works fine. I don't have any definite proof, but I'm almost positive it's a library size issue. There isn't any reason other macs can read the shared library but not the Apple TV.
    And to respond to an earlier post, No, the files are stored on 3 local 1tb drives in a macpro. As for returning, I would, but I'm almost positive this is a software issue. Here's to the youtube update fixing it, as itunes 7.2 didn't.

  • Suggestions for large iTunes library?

    I have a very large iTunes library (110G) on an external drive, which I use only occasionally. The rest of the time, I use a smaller on on my MacBook.
    When I want to use the large one, which I usually do via Airport, it can take hours to update itself. The "Genius" for example, can take hours just by itself... Then it does something for "gapless playback" or something...
    Why does it need to do all of this stuff, and why does it take so long? Is all of this updating done on the external drive so it won't have to be updated again from another computer? (so, for example, if my wife opens that library from her computer.)
    Or does anyone have tips for managing a large iTunes library that is only used infrequently?
    Thanks,
    Mark

    "One more question, if you do have a second library you option into, are the library documents on the external drive or in your music/iTunes folder?" So they have all been on the external drive. I called Apple Support about dead tracks issue, and the 1st guy told me I SHOULD split them up, but that caused issues and I called back and the 2nd guy told me NOT to do that, so I've left them all on the external drive. The 2nd guy seemed more knowledgeable than the 1st guy.
    I was hoping you weren't going to say that. My thought was that the library needed to be on the machine with the music so that multiple libraries on different machines weren't trying to manage the same music. So much for that theory.
    This being the case, it would be interesting to see how it behaves if the library lives on your macbook.
    This experiment would be easy and risk free:
    Option into "create a new library" and create this new library in your music folder on your macbook.
    While in this blank library go to the advanced preference tab and deselect "Copy files to the itunes media folder.....)
    Then, from the itunes file menu browse to the music folder on the external drive and select it.
    This will build a library that lives on your machine while the music files continue to live on the external.
    This experiment is only worthwhile if you are sure that the library database for the music on the external drive lives on that external drive.
    The risk with having the library live on your machine is that another library on another machine might also try to manage this music (your wife's machine for example) potentially causing a mismatch between your library and the music folder.
    I hope that makes sense.

  • Hi, I have an iphone 4 with my itunes library on a Windows XP computer.  My spouse who has now passed away had an itouch and an Itunes Library on an Imac...so here is the problem I got a new iphone 6 and wanted to update my itunes library from my win

    Hi, I have an iphone 4 with my itunes library on a Windows XP computer. My spouse (who has now passed away) had an itouch with an itunes library on an IMac. here is the problem, I bought an new iphone 6 and wanted to sync with my windows xp library and of course my itunes version is out of date and I need to update it...well I try and update the version and it will not update the Itunes library and when I researched it I would have to upgrade from XP to Windows 7...r they kidding me...first of all my computer is old and a pain in the *** but I have my itunes library on it.  Sp to get my phone working I sync'd it on the IMac and my spouses Itunes library has been sync'd to my iphone and I don't know how to get my library on it...After thinking about it I want to combine the libraries after all there are some purchases on each one.
    I have done some research and you have to buy a 3rd party piece of software...this is not the way I want to go...I do not think i should have to buy one and also when I do a goole search there are a ton of them out there and I am sorry i do not trust the comments as some of them do identify that they will get a kick back.
    Can someone help, i should be able to export my itunes library from my iphone 4 to the itunes library by appending/importing it...it is not rocked science on what I want to do and I cannot find out any process...
    Can someone help ?

    Create a new user account on the computer that he can log in to.

  • I have an older ipod with a large itunes library and a new ipa 2. the both have the same email but different passwords.Can i sink th old ipod's library ith the new ipad's library?

    I have an older ipod with a large itunes library. I have a new ipad2. Both have the same email address but different passwords. Can I merge both itunes libraries?

    Not sure if this helps:-
    The music files, were they bought from your iTunes account or did someone gift them to you after buying from the iTunes account? If they are yours you can download them again if you clear or de-authorise the ipod, it has to be done by whoever gave you the ipod to do this (the registered  owner). If they were bought for you on another itunes account I don't think Apple let you use them as they are copyrighted and they don't belong to you, they belong to the person who bought them. If the music files where ripped from music cd's then click and drag them to a new folder on your desktop and have the person who gave you the ipod to de-authorise and unregister it. Then you re register it and put your files back from your desktop folder in your iTunes folder and synch. Hopefully that would work.  Any files which you did not buy, I would not know how get around this, best bet is to take it to you nearest Apple  Store and explain that they were gifted to you and ask how you can use them.  The best way to gift music files is to buy the gift tokens and give these. Hope above helps.

  • How to limit the music downloaded from a large iTunes library loading on iPad to minimize space usage?

    I'm having trouble with my iPad 2 iTunes  Match loading all of the music from my very large iTunes library off my Pc to my iPad.  I really only want a few playlists.  Do I have to delete all of the music off my iPad that I don't want?  Will it remove those songs from my main library if I'm connected to iCloud and music match?  Help!

    Move the itunes Library.itl file to your exHD.
    Then to get itunes to start using it from that new location, press *and hold* the shift key while starting itunes. Choose "use existing library" and browse out to the ITL file that is now on the exHD.
    Future app downloads will go to the Mobile Applications folder created there. It will also start downloading the itunes store artwork to the exHD.
    You can try downloading a free app to test it.

  • Hello, when i open itunes i get the message: The iTunes Library file cannot be saved. A folder was specified instead of a file.  It seems I can't update my itunes library. how do i fix this? thanks in advance

    hello,
    when i open itunes i get the message: The iTunes Library file cannot be saved. A folder was specified instead of a file. 
    It seems I can't update my itunes library. how do i fix this? thanks in advance

    Hi there Br0x,
    You may want to try rebuilding the iTunes library as an initial troubleshooting step. Take a look at the article below for more information.
    iTunes: How to re-create your iTunes library and playlists
    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1451
    -Griff W.

  • TS1717 I get the following error message after installing the latest version of itunes via auto update:  "the itunes Library file cannot be saved. An unknown error occurred (-54). Has anyone ever seen this message and anyone have a suggestion what to do?

    I get the following error message after installing the latest version of itunes via auto update:  "the itunes Library file cannot be saved. An unknown error occurred (-54). Has anyone ever seen this message and anyone have a suggestion what to do?

    Hi pholewinski!
    I have a couple of articles for you here that I believe will help you with this issue. The first is an article on advanced troubleshooting, and it can be found here:
    iTunes: Advanced iTunes Store troubleshooting
    http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3297
    If following that article's steps doesn't take care of the issue, you can try the things listed in this article, which is about permissions issues in iTunes:
    iTunes: Missing folder or incorrect permissions may prevent authorization
    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1277
    Thanks for using the Apple Support Communities. Have a good one!
    -Braden

  • Trying to relocate a LARGE iTunes library to external HD - it's NOT working

    I have a large iTunes library (160+ GB ... about 30,000 songs) that I store on an external USB 2.0 hard drive. I'm trying to move/copy/relocate the entire library to another USB 2.0 external hard drive. I have tried copying the entire iTunes library ... only to return hours later to find "not everything was copied to your folder" message - after a decent 24 GB had been transferred. I also tried making a playlist of my entire library and transferring it to another user on my computer - to no avail - that stopped, too.
    What is THE BEST way to copy a huge iTunes library? One external hard drive is filling up and I need to transfer everything. So far, I have been hooking up both external hard drives to my MacBook Pro - should I invest in one of those USB-USB connectors to connect the hard drives to each other directly? Should I try it without allowing my computer sleep?
    I want to transfer my HUGE library without running into snafus - everyone just says "copy the music folder" - but it's so big, the thing inevitably crashes!
    Any advice?

    Warren Willows wrote:
    When you ask about the "entire" library what are you referring to?
    Warren,
    i asked about the entire iTunes folder
    your iTunes library consists of your media files (music, movies, apps, etc.) and the, shall we call them, +support files+ (iTunes library file, iTunes library.xml file etc.)
    a typical iTunes folder looks like this
    if you keep your library files locally and just have the media files on the external, you should follow the steps provided by Chris.
    if your entire iTunes folder is on the external, you can do what i suggested.
    btw, a 160 gig library is not LARGE
    mine weighs in @ 1.6 TB and lives on a 2 TB firewire 800 external. i recently cloned this drive to an identical 2 TB drive for backup purposes using CCC. it took in excess of 20 hours to finish the cloning process !
    so, you need to approach the moving operation with patience ...
    good luck !
    JGG

  • I cannot update my iTunes library with new apps.

    I bought several apps directly from my iPhone. If I update my iTunes library, I receive a warning that I might lose all my purchased apps. It never happened to me before. HELP!
    The picture of my iphone in the iTunes' library looks foggy, as they are not activated to be moved into the library listing.

    I've got it to work. If that's the same error you received, then I have to assume you're using Windows 64-bit (as all the people I found with the same problem do). This was what worked for me, courtesy of Shiggity from sevenforums.com -
    Go to "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu", right-click "Programs" and select "Properties".
    On the Security Tab, Click "Advanced".
    Go to the Owner tab, and Click "Edit".
    Change the owner to yourself, Check "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects", and Click OK.
    And then re-run the installation. Hope that works!

  • HT1473 I have a large external collection and would like to import a select folder to itunes to create a playlist.  Is there a way to import the folder without mixing the contents with my large itunes library?

    I have a large external collection and would like to import a select folder to itunes to create a playlist.  Is there a way to import the folder without mixing the contents with my large itunes library?
    I'm trying to avoid having to fish through the thousands of songs already in my itunes library to create a playlist from the songs in the windows file that I've already selected.

    You're welcome.
    tt2

  • HT1329 My large iTunes library is on an external hard drive. Can I set up iTunes on my new Macbook Pro and copy the library to it or are there any pitfalls?

    I have my large iTunes library on an external hard drive. Can I set up ITunes on my new Macbook Pro and transfer/copy this library to the internal hard drive or are there any problems I should be aware of?

    ITs an old Iomega 100gb external HD that has about 90gb of music on it. The Macbook has a 500gb HD. I would like to put the iTunes library on the internal HD so I have room to expand.
    Phil0124 wrote:
    You can copy it to the internal hard drive as long as it fits on it. How big is your library, and how big is your internal HD?
    The only thing you do not want to do is over-stuff the internal hard drive. The OS needs some space to operate correctly, so if your iTunes library uses up more than say 80 to 85% of the internal HD's available space it may not be a good idea to transfer it over.
    With that said, the internal HD will provide slightly faster access to the library than the external would, but other than that, you can point iTunes to the external drive just fine.

  • Looking to publish my VERY LARGE iTunes library on the web

    Can someone recommend a way of publishing a large iTunes library (currently 62,373 tracks and growing quickly) to the web? There doesn't seem to be an easy way to do this. I have printed my library to .PDF, but I can't convert the .PDF to MS Excel as the file contains more than the 65K line limit in Excel. Exporting my list to .XML won't open in Excel for the same reason, too many lines.
    My ultimate goal is to make my iTunes library searchable on the web for people to browse and select tracks for their events. I don't need them linked to iTunes for purchase, nor do I want the music on the web. I only want to create a database for web searching the Albums, Artists, Song Title, Genre, and Song length. I would also like the iTunes artwork to be included.
    Thanks,
    Al

    Copy the entire _iTunes folder_ , not just the iTunes music folder.
    When you have everything ready on teh new internal, you can do 2 things.
    1 - Copy the entire iTunes folder back to the internal.
    2 - Leave it on the external, start iTunes holding the Option key and select *Choose existing library*. Select the *iTune library* file in the iTunes folder on the external.
    iTunes will simply now use this for everything.

  • Moving large iTunes Library -Help

    Hello, I have 18,000 songs and videos filling up by 200GB hard drive. So I purchased a 500GB time capsule and followed the steps Apple advised to move your music folder. After I press consolidate, it seems to be working (very slowly), however, it continued for about 24 hours and only moved 10% of my iTunes library. then I got an error, and had to start again. Surely, there are others out there who have had to move a large iTunes Library...this method seems like it is not designed for large libraries like mine? Any suggestions?

    None of these suggestions are complete solutions to the problem, I'm afraid.
    The latter is basically the same as the first one, as iTunes will still use the old location to look for music files that are already in the library. In my case, I'm moving from a USB HD to a NAS over WLAN...this way I can still reach my entire lib from anywhere in the house; without being hooked up to the USB HD.
    So I have the same problem, and experience that the consolidation process crashes.
    I have also tried re-importing the entire mp3 collection into iTunes from its new location, but this also lingers for several hours before finally freezing (I had to force-quit iTunes).
    What we really need, is a way to regenerate the library file without moving tons of data.
    The library is described in a plain-text XML file, and that stupid, stupid binary file, which is the actual database that iTunes uses (the XML is primarily for convenience of other apps)
    I already copied my data using Finder, so if iTunes Music Library.xml wasthe only file that mattered here,
    all we needed was a plaintext search and replace...
    Example:
    I moved all my mp3 files from
    1) *My Book:mp3*
    to
    2) *Public:Shared Music:mp3*
    Since the file structure of all my mp3 lib is intact;
    substring 1) in the existing iTunes lib needs to be changed to substring 2); for all mp3 files and lib root paths, and voilá...
    BUT this is not the case; the binary file is the actual database used by iTunes.
    So until someone comes up with a way to regenerate the iTunes database file, for example from the XML file, we're stuck.
    Just my $.02 worth of rambling.
    Cheers;
    Eivind

  • Large iTunes Library Streaming Issues

    I left sync on and it filled up the 40GB drive with about 7,000 of my songs.
    I then went to the sources in Apple TV and selected my iTunes library for streaming. The screen displays:
    Loading "iTunes Library" and the spinning icon shows for about five minutes. My screen then goes blank, and the AppleTV resets itself. When it comes back on it asks me for my language choice, and then asks if I want to recover my AppleTV, continue, or reset to Factory settings.
    I have tried this a few times with the same results each time. Any help is very much appreciated.
    Hardware - Apple TV, Mac Mini, 500gb external drive with music and movies
    Network - Linksys cable modem and switch with a wired connection to the Apple TV.

    Well the journey continues. I "factory reset" my Apple TV last night after another unsuccessful attempt to stream my music through Apple TV. It can see my iTunes Library under "sources." It says that it is loading and then after six minutes or so (I timed it) it restarts the box and presents me to select my language preference as it did when I initially installed the AppleTV. Once I do this it gives me three choices. I can "Restart" or "Restore Factory Defaults" or "Recover". If you chose "Restart" the machine reboots again. If I try and stream again, six minutes later I am asked what Language I want. If I try recover, it tests the system and says everything is good. I decided to perform a Factory Reset, and this did not work either.
    I have a large iTunes Music Library, and have been using it successfully streaming through Elgato's EyeHome product for a couple years. We have had issues with new software updates, but they were very quick to provide solutions.
    HERE IS WHERE I AM CURRENTLY AT:
    I went to my computer, turned off iTunes, went to my iTunes folder and copied all of the files from the iTunes directory (remember my music is on an external drive) to a folder in another location. I was surpried to see my iTunes.xml file was over 150mb in size. I then restarted iTunes and of course had no music in it. I am now importing my file library in again to see if it helps. Maybe I has a corrupt iTunes file.
    Anybody else with any ideas? Apple?

Maybe you are looking for

  • The object has been corrupted, and it's in an inconsistent state. The following validation errors happened:

    Dear Friend I have got below error message in the exchagne server 2013 while i tried to open the console of delegation mailbox . It was comes once i was deploy lync server 2013 in the same forest. warning The object has been corrupted, and it's in an

  • AIR Runtime Distribution License

    Should I need to sign the Adobe AIR Runtime Distribution License Agreement application with Adobe to distribute only the *.air to others. AIR runtime can be downloaded from the Adobe site. Should I need to sign the Adobe AIR Runtime Distribution Lice

  • Sort Order Idea

    Without the ability to search for a contact in the contact database, it would be very helpful to at least be able to toggle between sorting by first or last name without having to take a trip to Settings. I wanted to find a BMW service advisor as I d

  • ICloud albums in iPhoto are empty, but they show up on iPhone and iPad.

    I am opening iPhoto, and when I go to my iCloud folder the albums are their, but there are no photos in the album. My mac mini is all up to date and so in iPhoto. The odd thing is the photo albums are on my iPad and iPhone with all of the photos. Any

  • Open Firmware Mystery

    I have duplicated this strange problem on both my G4 tower and Aluminum Powerbook, which is that I cannot get Panther OS X version 10.3.9 to boot off the Panther OS X CD, it instead boots into open firmware. I also have tried to get the machine to bo