Updating the dummy Profit Center

Hi Experts
I am using the PCA with new GL , here I have created the dummy profit center also
My query is some of the business transaction are updated in the dummy profit center
What could be the reason for updating the dummy profit center suppose if I am not give any profit center
Those entries are getting updating ?
In this new Gl concept how to transfer the balance to exact Profit center ?
Thanks
Sri

Hi Venkat
You should not have activated Classical PCA if you are using New GL.. New GL PCA is a much better functionality
Anyways, the reason for DUmmy PC is only that you did not assign the PC in the CO Object like Cost Center.. PC is always derived from Cost object. So, if the CO Object has no PC, the line item gets Dummy PC
There is a SAP note 702854 which offers steps to deactivate Classical PCA.. If you wish you can do that.. There is no harm as such in having Classical PCA, but New GL Is better
Br. Ajay M

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