Updating to Tiger...RAM issue

hi
I only have 128mb of ram in my emac and tiger says you need 256mb.
Stupid question, but if i get tiger regardless of this, will it mess up my emac because i wont have enough RAM?
what would happen if i installed it?
Please reply

hi
I only have 128mb of ram in my emac and tiger says
you need 256mb.
You have a 1st or 2nd generation eMac and never put any extra RAM aboard. You're going to need to increase the RAM. OS X 10.0.x through 10.2.x will run with as little as 80 MB, but won't be happy with less than 192, and really needs 256 to do actual real work. OS X 10.3.x, make that 128, 256, 384. OS X 10.4.x... if you don't have 384 to 512 MB, you're in for a shock. Personally, if I had your eMac I'd add a 512 MB stick to give it 640 MB, or, more likely, just pull the 128 and add two 512s to max the RAM.
Stupid question, but if i get tiger regardless of
this, will it mess up my emac because i wont have
enough RAM?
If you get Tiger to boot in 128 MB RAM it'll be so slow that you'll regret trying. 1st and 2nd generation eMacs didn't have particularly fast hard drives, and Tiger will be hitting the drive for virtual memory and hitting it hard. Worse, as 1st and 2nd generation eMacs didn't have particularly large hard drives either, you will notice the space that Tiger's VM takes up. Back when I had a first generation eMac running 10.2.x, I had first 384 and then 768 MB RAM, and Jaguar's VM, which isn't as voracious as Tiger's VM, ate 2-4 GB of disk space depending on what I was doing and how long the eMac was booted.
what would happen if i installed it?
You'd be sorry. Don't do it. Install more RAM. Crucial sells 256 MB sticks that'll work in 1st or 2nd generation eMacs for $70-80, or 512s for $120-130. There are other vendors who sell RAM for less than Crucial, though Crucial RAM is reliable and really does have a lifetime guarentee. I personally would spring for at least one 512.
The alternative, of course, would be to get a new Mac mini, or, if you can still find one, a 1.42GHz eMac.
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Size: 14.55 KB
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Thanks for the question, and welcome to Apple Support Communities. I understand that you are having issues redeeming a subscription that you have paid for. The best option will be to report an issue with your purchase:
How to report an issue with your iTunes Store, App Store, Mac App Store, or iBookstore purchase
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1933
Thanks,
Matt M.

Creating an Aperture web page from photos the page goes white and nothing displays. Is this a RAM issue?

I have just purchased an iMac 27" 2.7GHZ running OSX 10.7.4 with 4GB RAM (16 GB has been ordered). I am using Aperture 3.3.2. When I attempt to create a web page from photos the page goes white and nothing displays. Is this a RAM issue?

I have resolved the issue....turns out that, in my case, running OSX 10.8.1 with Aperture 3.3.2 was what was required! I was running Aperture 3.3.2 with OSX 10.7.x and had this issue.
I hope this helps someone else as well.

Will my Microsoft Office 2004 stay intact if I update to Tiger?

I am currently operating on OS X 10.2.8 on an iBook. I have Microsoft Office 2004 installed and have already used all remaining disk installs. I would like to update to Tiger and have purchased the software but am concerned that the update will screw up my Microsoft Office software. Anyone have any experience with this? Thanks for your help. Leslie
iBook Mac OS X (10.2.x)

Even if it didn't, you could still re-install it. Whether you've used up "all remaining disk installs" makes no difference, as when you reinstall it, you wouldn't be installing an additional copy. You'd be reinstalling the same copy.

I updated to Tiger 10.4.11 & cannot mount disk images &other problems.HELP!

I just updated to Tiger 10.4.11/combo update. I used the stand alone installer (because Software Update since I updated to 10.4.10delta). I repaired permissions before and after the update. Now I can't mount disk images I always get the message "Mount Failed".This occured when downloading and trying to open an existing disk image.I ran fsck, even tried AppleJack all to no avail.I know this problem wasn't there before the update as I downloaded the update and a couple of small utilities and all was well with the world (they all mounted properly). I was doing fine with OSX 10.4.9 but just had to upgrade! Can someone PLEASE HELP ME? I'M grateful for any suggestions and the forums have been good to me in the past.
badcat53

Some part of the OS is messed up... I've heard that if you Deltas you must stick with those, if you do Combos you must stick with those, no idea if it's true, as I always use the bigger Combo Updates.
Most likely the best solution for both of you is an Archive & Install...
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120
Then apply...
The combo update for PowerPC-based Macs...
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx10411comboupdateppc.html
The combo update for Intel-based Macs...
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx10411comboupdateintel.html

What version of LR should I choose to run it on a 2008 macbook pro OS 10.5 (updated with 8GB RAM)

As it says in the title: I want to run LR on my 2008 macbook pro OS 10.5 (updated with 8GB RAM). Adobe support told me that it would not be a problem, yet i'm confronted with a com.apple.installer.pagecontroller error -1. I have no idea what it is or how to solve it.
Can you please help me? Thank you.

You will not be able to use a LR 5 key on an older LR. While an intermediate version of OS X may be easier on your system and may allow a newer version of LR than LR3, if it is not current you still have to get that old version of LR from an alternate channel.
If you have an easy way to clone your system I would try upgrade you Yosemite and putting LR 5 on it since you have a key. If it doesn't perform to your satisfaction you can always clone back to 10.5 and seek an alternate solution.
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