Upgrade 10.3 to 10.4 With Classic Mode

I have a second G5 with 10.3 that I would like to upgrade to 10.4. Will this affect the functionality of Classic mode? I use it for Typestyler. Their OSX version is funky.

I have a G4 MDD normally running Tiger OS 10.4. I also have an older version of TypeStyler that I run in Classic mode. Works like it would if I was booted into OS 9.
 Cheers, Tom

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What iMacs run System 9 software in Classic Mode and also iLife in Sys 10?

I understand that there were versions of System 10 that ran on iMac G3s that would run old System 9 software in Classic Mode, and also would run iLife (special interest in Garage Band and iMovie). What model of iMac would do this? What hardware requirements should I look for? What would be the optimal configuration to do what I'm trying to do?
Can I hook up an external floppy drive to an iMac? Are those drive still easily acquirable?
What versions of systems 10 ran in Classic mode? I've heard that System 10 with Classic mode can be buggy. How significant is this? When did System 10 stop running in Classic mode? Is it traditionsal to get System disks included when you buy an iMac off of eBay?
Thanx.

Ed,
The last version that would boot into classic is 10.4.X (.11 last version). That said I was never a fan of classic mode. It never seemed right to me that's why I set those few up as dual booters. They were used in a classroom with pre k thru middle school kids.
If you are using classic mode and it runs good for you than go for it.
My computer at school runs at 600 Mhz and has 256 Mb of memory. How much memory would you suggest.
Tiger will actually run at 256 but would be better at 512 or 768.
How would a machine like that do as part of a wireless network?
It should do fine. It will need a special adapter (which I can supply) and the original Airport Card.
Could it be connected to a network that's administered by a PC?
Should be no problem. Our's is set up that way and wireless Macs work fine. The problem I've seen w/ PC administered networks is the Administrator him/herself.
what is a G3 slot loader?
There were two types of G3 iMacs, the early tray loaders and the later slot loaders.
700 and 800 eMacs will also run OS 9.
So I just upgraded our music room at the school. It has iMac G3s 450 - 600s, eMac 1.25s, G4 Minis and Intel Minis. So we're running iLife 09 and 05.
Garage Band 09 will only run in 10.5.6 and that will only run on a G4 or better w/ a processor 867 MHz or faster. My son runs it on his eMac 1.25 GHz w/ 1.5 GB RAM.
Oh for your kid check out Kid's Pix 4 it runs in either OS. Our kids are also crazy about Zoombinis.
Richard
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Why do some old Mac programs run slowly in Classic mode?

I successfully installed OS 9 Classic Mode on an eMac. At first, some of my old programs (Thinkin' Things, Millie's Math House, both edmark) ran fine, but as time went on they started jerking and freezing as they ran. I re-started and it continued to do the same thing. Any ideas on why these programs run slowly like this?

I gathered the info you suggested in previous message, but I was wondering if you could help me interpret it.
Here's what I got:
In Activity Monitor; System Memory; Page ins/outs = 12277/0.
Memory is listed as 1.024 MB, with 822.11 MB free.
I looked under CPU tab in Activity Monitor and did not exactly now what I was looking for. What should I do with the CPU #'s?
I opened Console in Utilities & there were any clues or repeating messages.
The 40 MB hard drive has 9 MB free.
I ran the 9.2 CD-based educ. software again. Some does not boot up. Some run fine. Others are choppy at times.
Anyway, does this info suggest anything to you. I wonder if it's a compatability issue between System 10.4.11, Classic Mode and the Power PC chip? Was this common with Classic Mode?
I thank you so much in adavance dor any suggestions on how to solve this problem.
Ed

Can I use my Mac OS 9 emulator (classic mode) with OS 10.5 Leopard?

Hello,
This was the closest forum I could find to ask this question so please forgive me if it's not categorized properly.
I'm currently running OS 10.4 Tiger on my Mac and my OS 9 emulator works great. I've heard rumors that if I upgrade to OS 10.5 Leopard I can no longer use the OS 9 emulator and/or it will be eliminated all together. Can anyone clarify this for me?
I still use quite a few OS 9 applications, much less some older games which I really enjoy and do not want to lose the use of 'classic mode'. I would actually reconsider upgrading if I were to lose the use of it.
I've heard there's a workaround by using SheepShaver, but I've read a lot of mixed reviews on it so I'm hesitant to go that route should I decide to upgrade since everything is working so well with my current configuration. I'd like to take advantage of the new features in Leopard, but I don't think it's worth the sacrifice if I lose 'classic mode' by upgrading.
Any information/clarification would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Hi, lancisti -
Welcome to Apple's Discussions.
First, a point of clarification - OS 9 used as Classic is not an emulator program. SheepShaver is an emulator, but Classic is not. When OS 9 is used as an Operating System, it is referred to as OS 9; when used as a program under OSX to provide an environment in which many OS 9 programs can be run, it is referred to as Classic.
Unfortunately, Leopard (OSX 10.5) does not support OS 9 in any form, including Classic. There is no workaround supported by Apple for this.
As far as non-Apple workarounds go, SheepShaver is one approach, as you are aware. And, as you note, whether it works well, at all, or not seems a bit whimsical based on some users' reports. This may have something to do with SheepShaver not yet being ready for Leopard - that's purely a guess on my part.
Another solution would be to partition your hard drive, or add a second one, so that you can have a volume dedicated to OSX 10.4.x, which does support Classic and would allow you to continue using it. Or, since your machine is OS 9 bootable (using the model-specific version of OS 9.2.2 that came with it, and is installable from the machine's original disk set), set that additional volume up as an OS 9 boot volume.

I NEED CLASSIC MODE AND I CANT UPGRADE!! HELP!!

So i just bought a new mac mini about a week ago and I am very excited to start using my copy of adobe photoshop cs2 again, but i have a copy of adobe photoshop 6.0 and i use and upgrade to go to photoshop cs2. I just found out that i cant install photoshop 6 because mac no longer supports classic mode! so how do i get classic mode with out having to downgrade to mac OS 9? is there another way around this?? I don't want to have to buy a 600 dollar copy of photoshop just to use the copy's i already have!

jflanders128 wrote:
...I don't want to have to buy a 600 dollar copy of photoshop just to use the copy's i already have!
You may want to learn about upgrade pricing. It is unlikely that you paid $600 to upgrade Photoshop 6 to CS2.
Beware that CS2 was written for PPC processors. You have an Intel processor and Apple hints that a coming Lion may not support PPC apps. You might want to upgrade to CS5 while you have the opportunity before you fall out of the upgrade window (when CS6 arrives). CS5 is written for Intel.

Does my OS X 10.4 disc come with "Classic" environment installed?

I have an iMac G5 which I am selling, and the buyer needs a computer that can run OS 9 applications. When my G5 had Tiger, I remember being able to use the "Classic Environment" emulation, but after upgrading to Tiger (which does not support classic) I have not used it.
Will installing 10.4 onto the computer with the install discs that came with the Mac(I'll be wiping the hard drive anyway) include an installation of OS 9 and a usable classic environment?
Thank You

Will installing 10.4 onto the computer with the install discs that came with the Mac(I'll be wiping the hard drive anyway) include an installation of OS 9 and a usable classic environment?
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The Bluetooth low energy protocol is not backward compatible with classic Bluetooth protocol. My iPhone 4s can not find my sonny in-dash player. However my iPhone 3GS does it. Very disappointed with this. Any idea how it can be fixed???

The Bluetooth low energy protocol is not backward compatible with classic Bluetooth protocol.
My iPhone 4s can not find my sonny in-dash player. However my iPhone 3GS does it. Very disappointed with this.
Any idea how it can be fixed??????

Hello,
You are correct, Blue tooth low engergy, BTLE.(only) devices are not backward compatible with Classic bluetooth and cannot connect.
However the Apple 4S and above have Bluetooth 4.0 support.. Hardware wise it has bothClassic Bluetooth, like the 3GS, as well as Bluetooth Low Energy. There is no good reason why your 4s cannot communicate to your Sony in-dash player using the Classic bluetooth that resides in the 4S.
I know that this does not answer the why it does not work, but it should work. Do you have to somehow re-pair the new phone up to the player? Not knowing the model of the Sony it is hard to investigate.
And I hate to ask but are you sure that the Bluetooth radio is on in the phone?
JT

Upgrade ERP database 11g and ATG7 with SSO integation

Please let us know how to Perform Upgrade ERP database 11g and ATG7 with SSO integation .
Regards .

We have completed to upgrade ERP database from 9.2.0.6 to 11.2.0.1 and also apply ATG 7 on Test instance.
And user finish testing , there is no issue after upgrade and application can work as normal.
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But on Production we have Single Sign ON.
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I upgraded Windows 7 to Windows 8 with iTunes installed. Now my iPhone 4S is no longer recognized in iTunes. Connecting with USB sends me directly to the MS app that downloads pictures from the iPhone. Suggest this is a question of missing Apple driver.

I upgraded Windows 7 to Windows 8 with iTunes installed. Now my iPhone 4S is no longer recognized in iTunes. Connecting the iPhone with USB sends me directly to the MS app that downloads pictures from the iPhone. Suggest this is a question of missing Apple driver for Windows 8, iTunes and iPhone. MS does not care! This seems to be a general problem with Windows 8 that a number of drivers that used to work with Windows 7 now do not work, ie. iPhone to iTunes, HTC to HTCSync, Samsung to Kies etc. I need this connection to work in order to syncronize with Outlook and my iTunes library.

diesel vdub wrote:
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There will be a new version of iTunes released this month... no one forced you to upgrade prior to a supported version of iTunes being released.
Like the fact that you just called most of us stupid there

Need new ink jet printer for Mac G4 with classic

I've searching for a new color inkjet printer for my G4 with Classic and have found only 1 by Epson, the R800. However, I'm getting different answers from various techs. One said I just need to get a print server. A tech at Epson says it probably won't work for my classic mode if the OS 9 software is booted up with an OS 10 driver. I don't know the answer to this or exactly what it means!!! Most of my printing would be done with OS 9 software. I have been using an HP laser printer and an HP color inkjet on all 3 of my networked Macs with no problem. Can anyone tell me if the Epson R800 will work? Thanks, Ann C

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+Windows 98SE/2000/Me/XP, Mac 8.6-9.2, OSX 10.1.3 or later+
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&in foType=Specs&oid=37472319&category=Products
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http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid= 30501&prodoid=37472319&infoType=Downloads&platform=All
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2011 MacBook Pro, 64 bit i7 quad core, upgraded to Lion OSx, Bootcamp installed with Windows 7, wanting to install Windows 8 (don't ask), tried downloading/installing bootcamp 5.0.5033, error message something similar to bootcamp doesn't support this Win

2011 MacBook Pro, 64 bit i7 quad core, upgraded to Lion OSx, Bootcamp installed with Windows 7, wanting to install Windows 8 (don't ask), tried downloading/installing bootcamp 5.0.5033 (both on the mac/windows partitions (actually using a parallel to run Windows)), error message something similar to bootcamp doesn't support this Windows
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if you're using parallels and full bootcamp then you're making it 100% more troublesome for youself then it needs to be
bootcamp is running windows directly on the hardware this give full memory and cpu and 3d video game power
running windows in parallels is running a virtual machine where one can't run powerful games and the like but one can have it in a window and change fast between osx and windows
parallels as the only virutal machine (as far as I know) support not have the operating system as a file on the osx harddisk but can access a bootcamp parition as virtual machine but without the benefits bootcamps provides
it's a service parallels provide for those who want both to play games in normal bootcamp and sometimes use windows in a virutal machine
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How do you upgrade OS X 10.4.11 tiger to a higher version of operating system such as OS x 10.5.6 as have tried running the upgrade disc on imac 5,1 with intel processor but only get message saying this cannot be installed with no further explanation ?

how do you upgrade OS X 10.4.11 tiger to a higher version of operating system such as OS X 10.5.6 as have tried running the upgrade disc on imac 5,1 with intel processor but only get message saying this cannot be installed with no further explanation ?

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