Upgrade existing machine now or buy new?
Am considering replacing the 4GB RAM in my *2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core 'Early 2008' Xeon* with 8GB (2 x 4.0GB Matched Set PC6400 DDR2 ECC 800MHz from OWC).
How much faster would a *Two 2.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Westmere” (8 cores)* be than that upgrade? Significant?
IOW, should I upgrade my current MacPro or get a new one?
Thanks!
From this low end Mac article, slightly edited:
http://lowendmac.com/deals/best-mac-pro-prices.html
"Primate Labs has posted Geekbench results for all the Mac Pro models since 2006. Here are some of the numbers:
2.0 GHz 4-core 2006, 3952
2.66 GHz 4-core 2006, 5089
2.8 GHz 4-core 2008, 5573
3.0 GHz 4-core 2006, 5655
2.66 GHz 4-core 2009, 8216
2.8 GHz 8-core 2008, 8826
3.0 GHz 8-core 2007, 8926
2.93 GHz 4-core 2009, 8952
3.0 GHz 8-core 2008, 9198
3.2 GHz 8-core 2008, 9730
3.2 GHz 4-core 2010, 9864 - preliminary (** this line adjusted closer to actual performance ** )
2.26 GHz 8-core 2009, 11735
3.33 Ghz 6-core 2010 14232 ** This line added **
2.66 GHz 8-core 2009, 14268
2.93 GHz 8-core 2009, 15043
2.93 GHz 8-core 2010, 16025 - first report (** this line adjusted closer to actual performance ** )
2.93 Ghz 12-core 2010, 21530 - first report (** this line adjusted closer to actual performance ** )
http://www.primatelabs.ca/geekbench/mac-benchmarks/
It looks like you could go from an 2.8GHz 8-core 2008 to a 2.93 QUAD core 2009 and pick up a little speed. They are adjacent in the graph at primate labs shown at the link above.
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