Upgrade from 10.1.5 before Tiger?

I have an eMac and don't know much about computers. I was told to get the MSOS X 10.4. Do I need to upgrade something before attempting to install? I can't event get the install information to come up on the desktop.
Thanks,
scottingham
eMac Mac OS X (10.1.x)

Hi, scottingham. Welcome to the Discussions.
I agree with Templeton that more details on how you are going about trying to install Tiger would help us help you.
Meanwhile, here are some things to consider:
1. Does your eMac have a DVD-capable optical drive? Tiger ships on a DVD. If you do not have a DVD-capable optical drive, you can exchange the Tiger DVD for CDs. See the info concerning the "Media Exchange Program" in the box in the right border of this page.
2. Assuming your eMac has a DVD-capable drive, have you tried starting up your eMac using the Tiger DVD?
3. I believe you must have Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar or later installed in order to install Tiger by the Upgrade Install method. Let me explain:
• The article "Mac OS X 10.4: About installation options" states "... "Upgrade to Mac OS X" appears (unless the installed version can't be upgraded, as described in this article)."• The reference to "this article" in the quote above is to the article "Mac OS X 10.2: Upgrade installation requires Mac OS X 10.1 or later," which states one cannot upgrade from 10.0.x to 10.2. I think this reference is incorrect w.r.t. TIger.
• I believe that reference is incorrect for the following reason: in the manual "Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger Installation and Setup Guide" that should be included in your Tiger retail package, it states on page 3:"If you already have Mac OS X v10.2 or later installed on your computer: All you need to do is Upgrade Tiger..."This implies to me one must be running 10.2 or later, not 10.1.5 as you are now, to use the Upgrade Install. You could use the Archive and Install option discussed on page 7, again presuming your eMac has a DVD capable drive and that some other problem is not prohibiting the disc from mounting.
Good luck!
Dr. Smoke
Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X

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Hello Judy,
First of all, Welcome to the  Discussion Forums!
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Point 2. If you do not have a backup then make one. This is without question the most important fact of all time regarding data on a computer regardless of what system amd which os you run.
Point 3. all advice given by others is good, the choice of which app to use regarding a backup is often personal as many apps do the job as required.
Point 4. If a backup exists then you already have your insurance. Making changes to your os can be done without worry as this is the primary reason that backup apps exist. If we ever take the time to read the "read me files"
All of them state that we should make a backup before installing new data!
Point 5. I wish you a happy Christmas and wish all a happy mac in the new year.
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Backup first
It is always best to have a full bootable backup before you upgrade. If you fail to do this you will be unable to return to this OS if you decide you don't like the new OS. Also there is a slight chance that an install could lose everything on the Mac. The backup must be to an external hard disk. Preferably use Carbon Copy Cloner to make a bootable backup of the whole disk.
Erase before the install
Once you have a bootable backup on an external disk it is best to erase the internal disk with the new installer DVD before you install.
During the install
Preferably do not import any data or preferences from earlier OSs during the install process as this can reintroduce bugs.
OS numbers and names
OS X 10.4.x - Tiger
OS X 10.5.x - Leopard
OS X 10.6.x - Snow Leopard
OS X 10.7.x - Lion
OS X 10.8.x - Mountain Lion
More about Macs
The Apple History site has specifications for every Mac ever produced: http://www.apple-history.com/
Upgrade to Leopard
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Upgrade beyond Leopard
OSs beyond OS X 10.5.8 require an Intel processor. If in doubt check this: Click the apple at the top left of your screen and select 'About this Mac'. This will give you your OS number. Then click 'More Info' to see which processor you have. If it says PowerPC you cannot upgrade to Snow Leopard and above. If you have an Intel Mac it is well worth upgrading to Snow Leopard now and then considering other options after that. You can buy Snow Leopard here: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A
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Information about upgrading Snow Leopard to Lion or Mountain Lion: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD256Z/A
Important
Check that your Mac complies with any requirements. If you are not in the US you should use the Change Country link at the bottom of Apple pages.

Upgrading from 10.2.8 to Tiger

Want to load 'Tiger', but don't want to disturb current internet/email settings etc. Will they be saved automatically and brought into the new system ?? Or do I have to do a custom install ?? Anybody know of any problems I might come up against ??
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The Tiger retail install disc includes the following installation options:
Upgrade
Archive & Install with an option to select preserve user and network settings
Erase & Install
The Upgrade method will upgrade your existing OS X version to Tiger and all user and network settings, user data and 3rd party applications will remain.
The Archive & Install method installs the Tiger OS new and archives the previous system as an Archived Previous System Folder. If you select preserve user and network settings, all user and network settings, user data, etc. is transferred to the new system. If the preferences for an application, some settings or user data is not successfully transferred to the new system, you can access this data in the archived previous system folder and transfer it to the new system. This is the only purpose for the Archived Previous System folder - it cannot be used to boot or run the computer. After confirming all user and network settings and user data, etc. was successfully transferred to the new system, you can and should safely delete the Archive Previous System folder to free up hard drive space.
The Erase & Install method does as indicated - it completely erases the hard drive first and installs what is available on the Tiger retail install package only.
You can customize the installation with any of the installation methods such as not installing all languages or printer drivers, etc.
Regardless the install method chosen, you should create or update your backup beforehand which should always be the first step before installing a major OS upgrade such as Tiger.
After creating or updating your backup, be sure to check the hard drive for any directory problems with Disk First Aid repair via Disk Utility when booted from the Tiger install disc.
Boot from the install disk and after selecting your language, at the Installer screen navigate to Disk Utility via the Installer menu bar.
Select Macintosh HD in the list of drives and volumes and under First Aid, select Repair Disk. If any problems are reported and successfully repaired, run repair again until no problems are reported.
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Quit Disk Utility and the focus will return to the installer.
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I upgraded my powerbook G4 with 1 gb of ram with tiger recently and ever since, I can not reboot or shutdown without holding down the powerbutton. The system shuts down all programs and then hangs on the desktop with no applications running... just a blank screen.
If I press the powerbutton, the window that prompts you what you want to do (shutdown, restart) comes up, but does not do anything.
I use file vault.
Any ideas? I can not find anything on this on any support site. I can not reinstall the OS again... as I can not restart into the CD or boot from a CD by holding down C.
HELP
I'm about to trash this mac and by a PC!

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I've never upgraded my OS. I've had my G4 for two years and have enjoyed using it very much. I recently purchased an external Lacie DVD/CD Burner with lightscribe capabilities, but I can't use it with my current OS. I went ahead and bought Tiger, and started to install but then I aborted when after RESTART the G4 was stuck at the bright initial image with the Apple icon and the spinning wheel.
It was in this mode for almost 10 minutes, so I finally did a hard boot, and ejected the install disk. When it came back I saw three icons: In the center was my hard drive icon with an OS blue "X" on it, to the left was a circular arrow icon, and to the right was a straight arrow icon pointing to the right.
Everything seemed to come normally when I clicked on the arrow pointing to the right.
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By attempting to install the new OS and stopping it, did I do anything wrong that I need to go in and fix?
Should I back-up my Home Directory files before installing?
Do I need to upgrade to Panther before I can upgrade to Tiger?
What info should I document prior to the install, ie internet settings, that may get wiped when I do the install?
Also, should a do a full install, or a custom?
I use Final Cut Pro and it's companion programs almost every day, and I would hate for anything to jeapordize these programs. If there is anything I need to be wary of, please let me know.
Thanks for all your input and advice.

Hi Christopher,
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
By attempting to install the new OS and stopping it, did I do anything wrong that I need to go in and fix?
Something obviously went wrong, but I'm wondering if you got a viable Tiger install: go to Apple Menu>About This Mac and see what version of OSX it lists.
Should I back-up my Home Directory files before installing?
Yes. Should always be backed up, but even more so when installing a new OS.
Do I need to upgrade to Panther before I can upgrade to Tiger?
No.
What info should I document prior to the install, ie internet settings, that may get wiped when I do the install?
Your ISP connection settings and Mail would be helpful so you don't have to figure them out again; you may want to take screen shots of them.
Also, should a do a full install, or a custom?
If you do an Upgrade or Archive and Install, it should leave your settings and home folder intact so you may not have to reset much. However, if one of those doesn't work (there was obviously some kind of issue first time around - and btw, which install option did you choose?) you may have to do an Erase and Install, in which case everything will be erased and only Tiger installed.
Also, do you want OS9 and/or Classic?
I use Final Cut Pro and it's companion programs almost every day, and I would hate for anything to jeapordize these programs. If there is anything I need to be wary of, please let me know.
You'll need to check with the makers of your software to see what's Tiger compatible, what will need to be upgraded and at what cost.

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