Upgrade G4 iBook to Tiger

My wife has a G4 iBook we purchased in Nov. 2004. It has a 1.33 Ghz processor, DVD-ROM drive, Firewire, etc. The iBook came with Panther and she is currently running 10.3.9. I would like to upgrade her to Tiger.
I found a couple of copies of Tiger on eBay that are described as iBook Tiger discs. The hardware requirements are the same as my wife's iBook but the sellers say these DVDs are for Mid 2005 G4 iBooks. These are original Apple DVD (including iLife 05) and are legal.
I questioned the two difference sellers and one says the discs will not work on her iBook the other says it will.
Can anyone tell me if these discs will work on my wife's iBook? They are significantly cheaper then the retail version of Tiger and I plan to upgrade all our Macs to Leopard when it is released so I would rather not buy the more expensive retail version at this time.
Thanks,
David

Hi,
I've an iBook G4 12" 800 MHz purchased in Nov 2003 running tiger without problem.
System requirements on my tiger dvd are:
at least 256MB RAM
firewire
dvd reader
at least 3GB disk space
PPC G3, G4 or G5
nothing else.
BTW if you buy a new copy of tiger you can have discount when you update to leopard
Aldo

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