Upgrade of a hardrive with carbon copy cloner

I upgraded my daughter's macbook hardrive and used carbon copy cloner to transfer all the mac stuff over to the new drive. It worked great but the windows stuff did not move with it. she uses boot camp and has not upgraded to leopard yet but has the most recent version of tiger. Is there a way for me to move in total her windows in boot camp without reinstalling it from the beginning?

Hi,
two things you can try:
If the BootCamp Windows uses the FAT32 file system, try this: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=717201&start=0&tstart=0
if it uses the NTFS file system, have a look at WinClone: http://www.twocanoes.com/winclone/
Good Luck
Stefan

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My Mac Mini does not boot, after backing the enire system onto an external drive with Carbon Copy Clone. I had switched the start-up disk back to the original of course. Now all I see is the Apple logo. What should I do? Thanks in advance.

Try disconnecting any external devices, especially hard drives
and try rebooting.
If that doesn't help, then :
If you are running Lion, boot to the Recovery HD and run a
Repair Disk on the OSX partition.
If Snow Leopard, boot to the installl DVD and run Repair Disk.
Also, you may want to bookmark this:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57345273-263/troubleshooting-the-boot-proce ss-for-intel-macs/?tag=txt;title
for future reference. It is a pretty good explanation of the
Mac boot process and how to identify where problems may be.

Can I Use Time Machine With Carbon Copy Cloner?

As of today, I upgraded my iMac (and eventually my Macbook) to Snow Leopard. I used Carbon Copy Cloner to create a clone of my drive to my external (I did a clean install) and now that Snow Leopard is installed, I only want to put back on to my computer just certain files, such as a select selection of my documents, some of my iTunes library, etc. Given that I couldn't find that option in Migration Assistant, I just manually copied over what I wanted from the clone on my external.
Still, I would like to keep a daily backup for my iMac's HD and that's where Time Machine comes in, but there's some questions I have before I do it:
Given that my iMac's HD now has significant free space (as I only brought back, say, 10% of the stuff to my iMac from my external when I cloned on CCC), if I enabled Time Machine to back up my iMac's HD stuff, it wouldn't overwrite the 90% of stuff on my external with the 10% that's on my iMac's HD, would it? For instance, I have about 20,000 songs on my external drive, but maybe have brought back only, say, 5,000 to my iMac (for now). Given that my iMac's iTunes Music folder shows 5,000 songs on it, when TM backs that up to my external drive, it won't overwrite the other iTunes Music folder which has the other 15,000, right? The same thing could be applied for documents, photos, etc. If not, how would TM deal with that? I would hope to avoid the other extreme, which are duplicate files/folders.
I guess I just want to be able to have the ability to get into that cloned drive on my external if I need to add more stuff to the iMac or if I need it one day to boot up the machine. But I also want to be able to have Time Machine at hand to back up daily the little that is on my iMac right now. So I suppose I'm wondering how can I achieve this without the two conflicting or screwing up?
Thanks!

MM1010 wrote:
when TM backs that up to my external drive, it won't overwrite the other iTunes Music folder which has the other 15,000, right?
Correct. Time Machine won't delete anything else on the same volume.
But as Barry says, it will use all the empty space available, before it starts deleting its oldest backups, so there will eventually be a conflict. See #3 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum). Also see #1 there, to be sure you have enough space for Time Machine to keep a reasonable "depth" of backups.
A better bet, however, would be to use a separate external HD. If you have the Time Machine backups on the same physical HD, when it fails (and they all do, sooner or later), you risk losing both.

Copying disk with carbon copy cloner to an iBook?

Hey guys. My iBook clam 366 indigo is running 10.2 Jaguar and I'm wanting to use Tiger so I can run some newer apps. I have an iMac g3 which is running Tiger and I was wondering if it would be possible to copy the disk from my iMac to the iBook using carbon copy cloner. I think it would work since both my iMac and iBook have firewire, and I could simply use target disk mode on the iBook and treat it like an external drive. I'm guessing my question is rather it would be bootable and fully functional on the iBook after I copied the disk image. Thanks.
-Aaron

Hello There, I'm no expert but I have installed Tiger on an Indigo firewire Clam via my iMac G3 using target disc mode. I have also done it using an external (powered as the Clam can't supply enough power) DVD drive as my tiger disc was a DVD-ROM. Just hold down Shift, Option, Command and Delete at the same time to force your clam to boot from the external drive. thern carry on with the install. Hope this helps, Good luck.

For the Pro's: Experience with Carbon Copy Cloner

Hi everybody,
I am a professional musicproducer. I use my MAC (G5, 2,7MHz DP 4GB RAM) every day many hours as my main working tool. So I cannot afford a loss of my system disc. If the disc fails some day, I do have to have a copy of it, that I can connect and go on working immediatedly. CCC is the perfect tool and i thank Mike Bombich for this efforts.
My tests were as follows:
After having cloned the system disc to a firewire drive successfully, I checked that I can boot from that drive, as long as the system disc is still in its place, connected and working.
Then I tried the worst case scenario: I plugged my system disc off (bus- and powerplugs pulled out), simulating a harddisc crash with loss of the complete drive, and looked what happens. You have to press the "Option" key during power up of your MAC, and the system will search and show the available drives. I marked the cloned system and started. It worked! Everything looked the same as with a start from the internal drive.
My question was: what exactly works and what not? Here is my report (I checked only LOGIC PRO 7.1.1):
I can start the programm, I can open all of the songs - with some restrictions. A logic song has a lot of links to a lot of audio files. In my case, EXS instruments and EXS samples are on the internal drive, recorded audio is on a seperat drive. Logic of course can not find those on the (no more existing) internal drive any more, so I am asked to perform a search. But after all, the song is complete and working. The entries in the Project Manager database, that show the dependencies of instruments, songs and audiofiles, point to the internal drive - so the Project Manager is of no use anymore. But in practice, this is a minor problem.
Now to my next question, concerning authorisations: I tried the "Waves" plug-ins: Yes, they work! And I tried the plug-ins of UAD, (they use a PCI DSP card): they work too! Only with the TC-Electronic plug-ins I was not successful, i got an "Error -1" - whatever that means. (I forgot to check "Autotune")
All told, I am very happy with the Copy Cloner! It is "the" application for my purpose! Thanks again to Mike and Andreas!
Thomas

My own tests were less than satisfying: third-party plugs (in my case, NI) often don't like you messing with the disk they're installed on.
After I restored to a clone, the B4 plugs, for me, refused to work. They demanded a reinstall (which, as all NI users know, is a royal PITA).
In my case, having to reinstall a particular plugin was not the end of the world... after all, 45 minutes lost is better than rebuilding a system from scratch.
But the lesson remains: an "exact clone" of your disk is never a 100% guarantee of immediate uptime, as you too discovered.

Can I still use my computer during a backup with Carbon Copy Cloner?

just as the title says

In general yes, but you may notice a slowdown of the app you use due to competition for CPU.
An exception, though, to the 'yes' would be that it is not advisable to have a database open during cloning.
Depending on your Mac and its RAM you may get a growth of swapfiles. Keep an eye on the contents of /var/vm/. If you experience unexpected sluggishness you may need a re-boot to clear all but swapfile0.
A suggestion: set a schedule for when you are in bed asleep!
Andreas (a moderator at the bombich forums)

Best External Hard Drive for Carbon Copy Cloner?

I'm about to do a clean install of Leopard on my *Mac Pro* but I want to back up/clone my current system (10.4.11) to an *external hard drive* first. Based on the recommendations of similar users (Logic Studio) -- a clean install is preferable to an upgrade from Tiger to Leopard. I plan to use *Carbon Copy Cloner* to clone my current system but am unclear as to whether I can use an *external USB drive* versus an external Firewire drive.
Some people claim that firewire is much faster and more reliable for transferring/backing up data, and more importantly, that it's the only type of external hard drive one can boot from -- but I'm not sure that's true for these Intel-based Macs.
Also, I currently use an *Apogee Ensemble* audio interface which does not like sharing the firewire bus with other peripherals. I've also heard references to a external hard drive chipset called 911+ as being important but I think this may only be in regard to firewire.
Bottom line, _can I use an external USB drive with Carbon Copy Cloner on an Intel-based Mac?_
I'm looking for something around 500 Gigs that can sit on my desk with a minimal footprint. I'd like to partition it into three volumes -- the first for the Tiger clone; the second for weekly Leopard back-up; and the third for sound library storage. I'll likely need to access the third volume in realtime from *Logic Pro 8* (audio application) so the HD should be pretty fast. Recommendations?

So Kappy & Hatter...
Allow me to spell this out in practical terms. I'm installing Logic Pro, an audio production application. The consensus is that best results are achieved by installing the application on the internal system drive in bay #1 on the Mac Pro.
Most professional users of Logic Pro recommend a second internal drive in bay #2 solely for audio recording even though the app runs on the drive in bay #1. The drive in bay #2 is often a Raptor because of the 10,000 rpm spin rate, beneficial for the recording process.
For sound libraries with large audio samples/loops, often streamed to the app -- a third drive is recommended to store the sound library. It can be internal or external. Many people use external drives for this function on a firewire 800 bus. The emphasis for this drive would be to read quickly and stream the samples quickly. I would assume that a 32MB buffer cache versus 16MB would be beneficial. I was looking for hi-speed if I went the external route -- hence my foray into the realm of eSATA buses, but perhaps I should just get an internal drive for this as I do have drive bays available in the Mac Pro.
Can you recommend drive spex for this task or a particular hard drive for this task of storing and streaming the sound library?

Carbon Copy Cloner issue

In preparation to upgrade my 27" iMac running Mt. Lion with FCP 7 to Mavericks, I'm going to run a test of the OS on external drive. First off, I'm going to clone my current OS to the external drive after which I would upgrade to Mavericks. Using Carbon Copy Cloner, I clicked on their Disk Center option to create Recovery Partition on this external drive.
This morning, I read this section under notes "Cloning Apple's Recovery Partition":
"Why were other volumes on my disk unmounted when I created a Recovery HD?:
CCC uses a command-line version of Disk Utility to resize the donor volume. Resizing that volume requires making changes to the partition table on the disk, and Disk Utility may choose to unmount other volumes on the disk while it makes those changes."
Does mean CCC actually changed the size of my internal HD? If so, is this damaging?
Above that, it states:
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Has anyone else used Carbon Copy Cloner or experienced this? Do I need to be concerned? Everything seems to be running OK. CCC does not have telephone support.
Thanks,
Phil

I've been using CCC with both ML and Mavericks and, if there is no recovery partition on the drive you are cloning to, it needs to create one (unless you'd rather not have one). And it needs to create enough space for the hidden partition to create it. No problem with that. It unmounts partitions and they will come back just as they were - I've not had a problem with that either.
CCC does not have phone support, but they have very good online support - Mike Bombich will reply if you post a question.

Sparse disk, with elastic dinamic capacity, works only if made with carbon copy

I am trying to create a sparse image disk to put unlimitlessly all projects from final cut pro, when i create it with carbon copy cloner I achieve my goal but i cant obtain same result with utility disk, why, it seems I use same setting

Without details, it's anyone's guess what your problem might be. Post the Disk Utility steps or the diskutil commands and maybe someone can help.

Carbon Copy Cloner, Disk Utility, etc..

I just read a post here about cloning the hard drive in a mini to an external, using CarbonCopyCloner. I was curious so I went to version tracker and downloaded. While it was downloading I read some of the reviews for it. Some people posting on Versiontracker seemed to have problems with it. Such as losing all their date. Another user suggested that using Disk Utility would be a better option.
My question is, could I create a partition on my external 160gig drive and then use disk utility to clone my mini hard drive to it? Would I then be able to boot off of that partition? If all that's possible then how would I go about doing that with disk utility? And how would I make sure that both the mini and the copy are both updated with the same data?

Hi Jerry,
Yes, you can make an identical copy with Carbon Copy Cloner (hence the name ).
You can use dik utility to partition the external drive, then use CCC top clone the Mini's hard drive to one of the partitions. To test the clone, use system preferences to instruct the mini to boot off of the clone. Of course, this will only work with a Firewire drive.
There are preference settings in CCC that allow you to sync the drives. This way they both have the same data.
It also allows you to schedule periodic backups.
Another backup utility that I have used is SuperDuper. Version 2.0 was just released yesterday. Although it is $29.95, you can download and try it for free.
Hope this helps,
Steve
iMac G5 20 - inch ALS (May 2005) Mac OS X (10.4.3)

External Hard Drive Unreadable After Carbon Copy Cloner Backup

I am using a Maxtor OneTouch III Media external drive. I had formatted it to be read/writeable from Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, and had been reading and writing files fine. Then I did a system backup to the external drive with Carbon Copy Cloner. Now when I plug the drive into the USB port, it says "the disk you inserted is not readable by this computer." I am guessing that Carbon Copy Cloner may have messed with the file system format. I had some pretty important files on there and would like to retrieve them, so I'd prefer not to reformat.
Disk Utility shows this information for the drive:
Name : Maxtor OneTouch III Media
Type : Disk
Disk Identifier : disk1
Media Name : Maxtor OneTouch III Media
Media Type : Generic
Connection Bus : USB
Connection Type : External
USB Serial Number : RA09E5XC
Writable : Yes
Ejectable : Yes
Mac OS 9 Drivers Installed : No
Location : External
Total Capacity : 149.1 GB (160,041,885,696 Bytes)
S.M.A.R.T. Status : Not Supported
Disk Number : 1
Partition Number : 0
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Message was edited by: theleez

Hi , and a warm welcome to the forums!
I think the problem is more the One-touch, they can't boot PPC Macs even via Firewire.
I think you'll have to Reformat it again... did you maybe use GUID Partition Scheme the first time?
See this, except for the GUID part...
http://carlbach.blogspot.com/2008/02/maxtor-one-touch-iii-and-formatting-on.html

Upgrading harddrive and using Carbon Copy Cloner

Hi I'm planning to replace my internal harddrive on my old MacBook Pro (August 2007) running Leopard with the following harddrive:
Seagate Momentus 7200.4 ST9500420ASG - Hard drive - 500 GB - internal - 2.5" - SATA-300 - 7200 rpm - buffer: 16 MB
Is it fully compatible? Also, this ST9500420AS "G" model is said to have its own G-Force sensor. How does it all work out with MacBook Pro's sudden motion sensor?
Finally, if I use Carbon Copy Cloner to clone my old harddrive onto my new harddrive, how can I solve the problem of the "etc", "tmp" and "var" recurring folder problem without the use of the Mac OS X Installation Disc (since I've lost it)?
Thanks very much.
P.S.: Anything else special that I need to take note of when using Carbon Copy Cloner?

The Random Sniper wrote:
Thanks very much. So it is recommended that I should rather for the ST9500420AS non-"G" model for my MacBook Pro to avoid conflict with the existing Sudden Motion Sensor?
If you want to stay with a Seagate, yes.
However, I've also heard that Apple has released a firmware in the past to deal with the G-Force sensor / SMS conflict issue for the MacBook Pro (while nVidia didn't)? Is that true?
Which firmware update are you referring to?
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http://forums.bombich.com/viewtopic.php?t=14836

Considering FileVault usage on an iMac with OSX 10.6.7. Wanting to know more about strengths and weaknesses of Filevault with Time Machine, Parallels and Carbon Copy Cloner. Any negatives to consider before flipping the switch?

I'm considering FileVault usage on an iMac with OSX 10.6.7. Wanting to know more about strengths and weaknesses of Filevault with Time Machine, Parallels and Carbon Copy Cloner. Any negatives to consider before flipping the switch? Any information ?
Would specifically like to know:
Filevault impact on performance and application usability.
TIme machine impacts, and whether TIme Machine volume will also be secure?
Will a Cloned copy made with CCC be bootable, or usable?
Any other negatives to consider before turning this thing on?
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Filevault impact on performance and application usability.
FileVault encrypts the user's home directory only - it is basically an encrypted disk image that is automatically opened when you log in and closed when you log out. It does cause disk accesses to be a bit slower so it isn't a good idea to use an encrypted account with sound or video or large graphics files. I have no experience with it with Parallels Desktop but suspect that you'd notice a bit of a slowdown. Note: in the User's directory you'll see a Shared Folder. Since FV only encrypts the user's directory you can put data you don't need encrypted in this shared folder which won't be encrypted.
TIme machine impacts, and whether TIme Machine volume will also be secure?
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Will a Cloned copy made with CCC be bootable, or usable?
Yes
Any other negatives to consider before turning this thing on?
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At this time I strongly recommend that people who have sensitive data keep that sensitive data segregated from their general data and encrypt only the sensitive data or use other methods of locking it down such as saving on an external drive that is kept in a safe. Call me paranoid but I don't even keep all my sensitive data in one encrypted disk image. I use multiple disk images and keep multiple sequential backups. That way I might someday find that my up-to-date investments disk image won't mount but (a) I can go back a week to a backup and (b) that won't impact my up-to-date business records because those are in a different disk image

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I change office locations every 6 months and move to a similar iMac setup. At each move, using external hard drives, I update the "older" iMac HD with the current Mail, Addressbook, work files, etc. Currently, I am using Snow Leopard; the machine I am transitioning to is behind, using Leopard.
This time something new is before me, I purchased (honestly) the Snow Leopard upgrade for the iMac that I am transitioning to. So I have an OS upgrade plus a file plus a lot of application additions/upgrades.
The question is, can I use *Carbon Copy Cloner* to make an image of my current iMac and upgrade the 2nd iMac with all my recent applications in one fell swoop? I would

Arthur Levy wrote:
I change office locations every 6 months and move to a similar iMac setup. At each move, using external hard drives, I update the "older" iMac HD with the current Mail, Addressbook, work files, etc. Currently, I am using Snow Leopard; the machine I am transitioning to is behind, using Leopard.
This time something new is before me, I purchased (honestly) the Snow Leopard upgrade for the iMac that I am transitioning to. So I have an OS upgrade plus a file plus a lot of application additions/upgrades.
The question is, can I use Carbon Copy Cloner to make an image of my current iMac and upgrade the 2nd iMac with all my recent applications in one fell swoop?
Yes. Noondaywitch is correct. As long as the version of OSX is no older than the one the newest Mac came with, and the older Mac is compatible (enough RAM, etc), and the drives are formatted properly, you should be able to clone from one Mac to an external HD, then clone that back to the other one.
When you make the clone, boot up from it and run several apps, make sure your internet connection and browser work, etc.
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