Upgrade Panther eMac to Tiger or Leopard?

Hello,
Well its tax time and I just found out my 2008 tax software (H&R Block's Tax Cut) is no longer compatible with 10.3.9. For this reason and others (iTunes 8, etc.), I find myself thinking about upgrading my eMac. It's a 1GHz G4 with 640 MByte of RAM (512 + 128) and a 40 GByte Internal Hard Drive. There's also a 250 GByte Firewire drive that I use for backups. Since both Tiger and Leopard are both still available, which one would be appropriate for my eMac? Note if it wasn't for the lack of support for 10.3.9, I would be perfectly happy staying with Panther. The point being that I'm not looking for any new features. Also I noticed that allmac.com has eMac specific 10.4 installation DVD's for $49.95. Would this be appropriate for installing on this eMac? Thanks for any information.

Jazz Man wrote:
Also, any opinion on the eMac 10.4 DVD offered by allmac.com (SFR-6080)?
It's always a gamble, using machine-specific OS X install discs on a Mac that they didn't ship with. But I have had very good luck with the eMac Tiger disc. I got one and installed it on my 1.25GHz eMac (orignally shipped with Panther). I also tried it on an old 500MHz iMac DV, and it worked too. So I'd say the chances of it working on your 1GHz eMac are pretty good. But YMMV, of course, so don't take my post as gospel!

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Upgrade from OS X Tiger to Leopard 10.5.6 on PPC PowerBook G4

I've liked Tiger fine, but now am finding that I can't get the latest updates for Safari and iTunes. I'm not ready to buy a new computer yet. My G4's processor is 1.67 GHz and I have 2GB RAM. Can I upgrade straight to Leopard 10.5.6 or do I need to start with 10.5 and then get updates?
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Thanks!
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Welcome to the Apple discussions.
I have a 1.67Ghz Powerbook with 2GB ram running Leopard, and it runs fine. I would recommend it, as it's the last operating system upgrade available for OS X. Depending on your software, you may have to upgrade some, as I did, however, there were no additional charges for any upgrades to run under Leopard.
Call 1-800-MY-APPLE and ask if they have 10.5 Leopard available. It's not available in the stores anymore, and if the Apple store is still selling it, it's the least cost new version available.
Whether it's 10.5 or 10.5.6, you'll want to install the combo 10.5.8 update, which provides all updates through 10.5.8, regardless of what you've started with. Repair permissions, then install the combo update, then repair permisssions again. Then run Software Update several times to pick up other updates. The combo update is available from http://support.apple.com/kb/DL866

Upgrade from os x tiger to leopard so i can use my ipod or iphone

recenly a friend sold me power mac g5 for cheap 100 dollars. to my surprise i cant use to put music on my ipod or iphone .what do ineed to change to be able to upgrade to leopard,he told me i couldnt upgrade to snow leopard only leopard.this is what i have processor dual 2GHZ POWER PC G5 2.5GB DDR SDRAM MACHINE MODEL powermac 7,3 .cpu type powerpc g5 3.0.so what do ineed to upgrade n if it can be done i know its an older model but it be nice to upgrade .thanx for the time n help u have a nice day

Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard installation system requirements
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24950
Leopard is no longer available at the Apple Store but may be available by calling Apple Phone Sales @ 1-800-MY-APPLE (1-800-692-7753).
If you can't obtain a retail install DVD from Apple, look on eBay or Google the installer part numbers to possibly find at an on-line store. Here's what to look for:
MB427Z/A Leopard 10.5.1 install DVD
MB576Z/A Leopard 10.5.4 install DVD
MB021Z/A Leopard 10.5.6 install DVD (single user)
MB022Z/A Leopard 10.5.6 install DVD (5-user family pack)
Installing Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1544
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Installation and Setup Guide
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/leopard_install-setup.pdf
After you install the base 10.5, download & install the 10.5.8 combo update at http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_8_Combo_Update
The DVD should look like this
Caution - Leopard does not support classic mode. So, if you currently open OS 9 apps in classic mode, you won't be able to do this if you upgrade to Leopard.
 Cheers, Tom

Upgrading mac mini from tiger to leopard with broken DVD drive (long)

bonjour.
I have a macmini (1.42PPC) with a broken DVD drive running tiger on which i would like to install leopard (from scratch). I have a retail DVD of leopard, and a macbook. Other equipment includes a PSP and an 8Gb memory stick duo, usb cables, a 40Gb ipod with firewire cable. Wireless keyboard and mouse.
I've created a bootable image of my leopard DVD onto the 8Gb memory stick in the PSP using the macbook. I can plug the PSP into the macbook and the memory stick mounts as the leopard install DVD. I run InstallOSX and i'm prompted to reboot. Upon rebooting, my macbook boots from the memory stick in the PSP attached via USB and the language option menu of the install process appears. So far so good. I shutdown the macbook.
I then take my bootable image of my leopard DVD and plug it into the macmini. It automounts, i run InstallOSX and i'm prompted to reboot and the macmini restarts.
Unfortunately, the macmini reboots from it's internal HDD, and not the memory stick attached via USB so the installation fails.
Is there a way i can force the macmini to boot or reboot from the USB drive? I only have a wireless keyboard. Does the macmini in fact support booting from a USB device at all?
I don't know much about the firmware shipped with the macmini, and can not access it during startup to take a look as i have a wireless keyboard. Can i access the firmware from the booted macmini to change the boot device, like i can with a Sun Solaris box (eeprom)
Could there be another solution that wouldn't involve playing with the firmware?
I don't have the option of buying additional equipement.
Any thoughts on this problem would be welcome.
best wishes
jack
ps. I added (long) to topic subject, not to phish, but to save others' time, as it's quite a long and boring post

thanks for your advice, however this is all but impossible as i have a wireless keyboard which doesn't permit me boot into anything but the OS, as the keyboard and bluetooth drivers don't load early enough in the boot process.
however, i did find a firewire cable, so this is what i did:
booted the macmini in target mode and added a 10Gb partition to it from the macbook, onto which i restored the leopard DVD image
booted the mac mini normally, and it mounted my new partition. I just ran the install from there et voila

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I have a Powerbook G4 running 10.3.9. Can I use the OSX 10.5.2 disks from a newer MacBook Pro to upgrade the G4? I tried but a message comes up saying 'you cannot install this software on this computer' but I'd like to know why.

Limnos is correct. Also, note, the Find File system of 10.5 is much weaker than 10.3.9 for locating files quickly by name. Though if you find files mainly by content, then it is better to have Spotlight. See this thread on how difficult it is to work with Spotlight based systems:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1861415&start=0&tstart=0
Amnesty offers Dashboard Widgets without Tiger or Leopard:
http://www.amnestywidgets.com/WidgetBrowser.html
Launchbar offers almost the same facilities as Spotlight without getting rid of the Find File in the Finder that is faster for simple find by name file finding:
http://www.obdev.at/products/launchbar/
Maybe this is an opportunity to decide if you really want to upgrade that machine to Leopard or Tiger, or just stick with Panther. Unless you have some software that is Mac OS X 10.5 or 10.4 only compatible, I see no reason to upgrade your Panther machine to Tiger or Leopard. Furthermore, Upgrading to Leopard will disable the Classic environment, unless you add an Firewire external hard drive with 10.4.11 or earlier, or erase and partition your hard drive to have 10.4.11 or earlier on it.

UPGRADING from TIGER to LEOPARD causes audio plug ins scan WAVES PROBLEMS

I have upgraded my G5 from Tiger to Leopard and am now running 10.5.8. I am using LOGIC PRO 8 and have upgraded that to 8.0.2. When i open LOGIC PRO and it starts to scan the audio plug ins-it causes a problem that sends me to PACE-the Interlok site for my WAVES-it says this:
IMPORTANT!
If you're running Mac OS X 10.5 or above and your software keeps driving you back to this site, even after installing the latest extensions, then you need to update your software, not the extensions. Contact the publisher of the software you're trying to use regarding a 10.5 compatible update. Please don't contact PACE. Only the publisher of your software can resolve this issue.
SO-i downloaded their latest extension and i keep getting brought back to their site. My software IS updated -from 8 to 8.0.2
PLEASE HELP

You provided almost all information except the waves version. Most probably Waves are outdated.

UPGRADE TIGER TO LEOPARD WITHOUT LOSING FILES?

How does one upgrade a MacBook from Tiger to Leopard and keep all your Applications, files, emails in Mail?
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Hi You Got.....,
do an "archive & install"..
That will do... all apps will stay as on 10.4 ...all data too...
Please "repair permissions" of the Harddrive before and "backup" all data...
Hope that helps

Mail: From Tiger to Leopard

I am upgrading my computer from Tiger to Leopard (via a clean install) and would like to transfer all of my Tiger Mail messages/attachments/addresses/etc. to the Mail on Leopard.
What's the simplest way to do so? Is there a way to export my messages and then important them into Leopard's Mail after the installation?
Thank you.

This depends on how you plan to upgrade from Tiger to Leopard. If you literally use the Upgrade install option, then your mail will be imported automatically as soon as you open Mail for the first time.
If you are installing Leopard via Erase and Install then you can import your old mailboxes from your backups using Mail's import option. Open Mail, select Mail Help from the Help menu and search for "import" to get the instructions.
If you install Leopard using Archive and Install and use the option to preserve users and network preferences, then your old data will be transferred into the new Leopard installation. Mail will import the data when you open it for the first time.
The above also applies generally to Address Book and iCal data. You can also transfer the data manually from a backup:
Folders You Can Move to Your new Mac
From the Home folder copy the contents of Documents, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Sites.
In your /Home/Library/ folder:
/Home/Library/Application Support/AddressBook (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Application Support/iCal (copy the whole folder)
Also in /Home/Library/Application Support (copy whatever else you need including folders for any third-party applications)
/Home/Library/Keychains (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Mail (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Preferences/ (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/iTunes (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/Safari (copy the whole folder)
If you want cookies:
/Home/Library/Cookies/Cookies.plist
/Home/Library/Application Support/WebFoundation/HTTPCookies.plist
For Entourage users:
Entourage is in /Home/Documents/Microsoft User Data
Also in /Home/Library/Preferences/Microsoft
For FireFox:
/Home/Library/Applications Support/FireFox
/Home/Library/Preferences/org.mozilla.firefox.plist
Credit goes to another forum user for this information.

Hi there,i have a powerbook G4 1GB,cpu speed 1.5 ghz,512KB,running panther 10.3.3.Could this be upgraded to tiger or leopard?thank you

Hi
I have a powerbook g4
1.5 ghz powerpc g4
1 gb ddr
512 kb
Is running panther 10.3.3
Could this be upgraded to tiger or leopard
Thank you

Leopard system requirements:
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP517
Leopard is no longer available from Apple. You need to look for a black retail install disk on eBay or Amazon, which will cost you around $200.

Should I upgrade from Panther to Tiger or Leopard?

Many are considering upgrading their existing Mac to 10.4 (Tiger) or Mac OS 10.5 (Leopard) because of iPhone or iPod compatibility, or other software compatibility. This makes sense, but you have to realize there are both pluses or downsides to doing this.
If you have an application that is only Tiger or Leopard compatible, it makes sense to upgrade.
Unless you are able to completely migrate away from Classic, it doesn't make sense to upgrade to Leopard. Leopard no longer offers Classic support. Though a Firewire external hard drive with Tiger on it on a PowerPC Mac, or on a separate partition (which requires erasing your hard drive), will allow you to maintain Classic. Booting into Mac OS 9 if it was possible with Panther, is still possible with Tiger and Leopard on the same machine. Erase and installing Tiger or Leopard will not preserve the Mac OS 9 system folder needed to use Classic. That will either have to come from your backup, or your original Mac OS 9 installer discs which installed 9 on your Mac. Mid 2002 through late 2005 Macs used a restore utility to restore Mac OS 9 system folders from those original discs. Macs which shipped with 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 can't use the 9.2.1 retail disc to install Mac OS 9, and must use the disc that came with them to install 9 or Classic.
Upgrading to 10.4 and 10.5 introduces a new find file system called Spotlight.
It is much weaker than 10.3.9 for locating files quickly by name. Though if you find files mainly by content, then it is better to have Spotlight. See this thread on how difficult it is to work with Spotlight based systems. Launchbar offers limited Spotlight like features without losing the 10.3.9 and earlier Find File systems on 10.3.9 and earlier.
If Dashboard Widgets are your reason to install 10.4 or 10.5, consider the third party utility Amnesty

Many are considering upgrading their existing Mac to 10.4 (Tiger) or Mac OS 10.5 (Leopard) because of iPhone or iPod compatibility, or other software compatibility. This makes sense, but you have to realize there are both pluses or downsides to doing this.
If you have an application that is only Tiger or Leopard compatible, it makes sense to upgrade.
Unless you are able to completely migrate away from Classic, it doesn't make sense to upgrade to Leopard. Leopard no longer offers Classic support. Though a Firewire external hard drive with Tiger on it on a PowerPC Mac, or on a separate partition (which requires erasing your hard drive), will allow you to maintain Classic. Booting into Mac OS 9 if it was possible with Panther, is still possible with Tiger and Leopard on the same machine. Erase and installing Tiger or Leopard will not preserve the Mac OS 9 system folder needed to use Classic. That will either have to come from your backup, or your original Mac OS 9 installer discs which installed 9 on your Mac. Mid 2002 through late 2005 Macs used a restore utility to restore Mac OS 9 system folders from those original discs. Macs which shipped with 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 can't use the 9.2.1 retail disc to install Mac OS 9, and must use the disc that came with them to install 9 or Classic.
Upgrading to 10.4 and 10.5 introduces a new find file system called Spotlight.
Spotlight does improve with Leopard. There are some of the new features of Spotlight on Macworld and Wikipedia. It is however, much weaker than 10.3.9 for locating files quickly by name. Though if you find files mainly by content, then it is better to have Spotlight. See this thread on how difficult it is to work with Spotlight based systems. Launchbar offers limited Spotlight like features without losing the 10.3.9 and earlier Find File systems on 10.3.9 and earlier.
If Dashboard Widgets are your reason to install 10.4 or 10.5, consider the third party utility Amnesty
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UPGRADING TO EITHER TIGER OR LEOPARD FROM PANTHER 10.3.9

Dear gentleman
i have  doubt and i would like to have  your experienced point of  view><
if i upgrade from my PANTHER 10.3.9 to either Tiger or Leopard><
will i have same background failures i am having ><
or the new
upgrade os ( tiger / leopard)  software will give me a new healthy sistem , clean from all the recent Kernel Panic iam having since more then a week!!!??????????????????
i have been reading that a  clean installation of the same OS IT IS BETTER THEN A NEW UPGRADING ,
because the clean installation it will let out all the failures and so nothing of the >old troubles ( kernel panics and so others broken files and so on ) would be present effect my pc in that case!
is that truth????????????
what  you think ??????????
sincerely regards
wish a good week to all of  you
gio
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gio,
If you PowerBook G4 meets the Tiger System Requirements, or the Leopard System Requirements, and your Hard Drive is not failing, then you can perform an Erase & Install of either system.
That should make your Mac operating system, once again stable.
But if the Kernel Panics are being caused by incompatible peripherals, Hardware, or Third-Party applications or programs, once you reintroduce those items, you will once again have Kernel Panics.
If you do an Erase & Install of your original operating system, or Panther 10.3.x, the same would be true.
Member cornelius, has posted a guide to Erase & Install here Formatting, Partitioning Zeroing a Hard Disk Drive, authored by cornelius
Your Other Topics regarding this issue:
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Upgrading to Tiger or Leopard

My friend has an older 12" G4 Powerbook - it has an 800mz processor and is running on Panther. He has both Tiger and Leopard available to him but has heard Leopard will be too slow and he should only upgrade to Tiger. Any advice or experience?

Tiger is solid and just works. Leopard does not match the advertising copy - it's just not there yet.
I'm sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree. Leopard has a big advantage over Tiger, and that's much faster Spotlight searching. Granted, Leopard won't work on an 800 Mhz processor Mac, but your complaint above about Leopard is specious. I've been trying to get you to get some help, and all you want to do is blame Leopard for what you don't understand. If you are having Leopard issues, please start a new topic thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1225&start=0
So someone can help you. Stop blaming what you don't understand why it doesn't work for you.
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Client Upgraded from Tiger to Leopard Can No Longer Connect to Tiger Server

I just finished upgrading a G5 2GHz DP Powermac from Tiger to Leopard. This was an Archive and Install upgrade with importing the old settings. After verifying the account migration, including .Mac connectivity, and fixing all 3rd party software compatibilities/upgrades, I tried to connect to our Tiger 4.11 server by clicking on the server's Icon in the Shared section of the Finder Sidebar. The finder then switches to browse the the server for shares: "Connecting..." is displayed under the tool bar, with a "Share Screen..." and "Connect As..." buttons to the right.
At this point the "Connecting..." remains displayed with the spinning circle in the bottom right of the Finder window.... spinning. This situation continues for several minutes until is seems the system gives up.
If I click on the Path button on the Tool Bar, and go up to the Shared level, ALL the Shares on the Network are displayed, including all the Tiger Client machine shares. I can click on the triangle beside the Tiger Client's icon, and all the drives and home directories on the Mac are listed. All the client shares can be accessed without any issues. NOTE: There are no other Leopard clients on the LAN.
Prior to the Leopard upgrade, this client could connect to the Tiger server as well. All the other clients on the LAN can access the Tiger server also.
On the Leopard client I have tried clicking and the "Connect As..." button and using the menu "Connect to Server" and specifying the server's IP, and I get the same "Connecting..." message with a "non-connecting" result.
I can only assume that somehow the Account Name and password are not being passed correctly. But, using "Connect As..." should resolve that. However, "Connect As..." does not give me a user/password window!
If I check the AFP Access log on the Server, the only messages displayed are "Mounted Volume..." No messages in the error log, and no messages in the "Connections" section.
Can anyone help me figure out why the Leopard client can not connect to the Tiger Server?
My apologies if the description of my problem is a bit disjointed. I have been thrown into server admin and am learning "Trial by Fire".
Any help or suggestions on how to resolve this issue will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Gary
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OK. A quick update.
After waiting for about 10 minutes for the rotating circle in the bottom right corner to stop, I was able to click on the "Connect As..." button. It took another 10 minutes, but the Connect As window eventual popped up. I entered the Userid and Password (saving to Keychain) and was able to see all the sharepoints on the the server. I browsed all the connected drives and folders without issue.
I then disconnected from the server. Reviewing the AFP logs on the server shows messages for the connection Login and Logout.
I then tried to reconnect to the server, and again another 10 minutes wait, although this time the Leopard client eventually connected automatically with the proper User, as per the AFP logs confirms.
Although, the client can now connect to the server, for it to take 10 minutes will be unacceptable to management, not to mention the end user. Tiger clients can connect in a couple seconds!
Is there a way to reduce the Leopard login time to, say, a couple seconds, like it does with the Tiger clients?
Again, any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Gary

Mail no longer working after upgrade Tiger to Leopard

I know that there are some reports out there on the Internet but I can not find a solution that I trust. i upgraded from Tiger to Leopard and ever since my Mail program has completely disappeared. it is no longer in the dock, it is no longer in the applications folder and I went into the Mac Harddrive and found i. I dragged the icon on the dock and when I now start Mail the bar on top of the screen shows me that it started, but no windows come up. Under File most options are grey. i can see that all my mailboxsettings are still there. I have Entorage 2004 as my default mailprogram, but that gave never problems in the past and I use Mail for my google account. Under View in the menu almost everything is grey.
can someone help please? thanks so much.

In addition the article cited, if you ran 10.3 or earlier prior to upgrading to Tiger, once-upon-a-time, you might also need to remove two files with MessageSorting in their names.
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