Upgrade strategy with regard to Intel chip.

Greetings all,
I have an aging PPC G4 Dual 500 which has served me well for several years but is getting a bit pokey for some tasks. It is getting close to time for an upgrade. But we are at a cusp in Apple development, with the coming of Intel-based Macs, so I am in a quandary.
If I wait a bit and get an Intel-based machine when they become available, I understand that most of my software will run in emulation :P, and that I will have to upgrade it as soon as upgrades are available to get decent speed out of it. Many of the titles I own are from Adobe, and I suspect that they will ask their usual $149 per title for the "privelege", which will maybe provide me with a performance boost, but probably no new features.
Or, I could whip out the wallet right now, get the best, last Motorola Mac, and continue using all the software I have right now at blazing speed (relative to what I'm used to. . . ) with no software upgrade costs. The downside is that I will be buying a machine for which soon no new software will be written, and I will be excluded from the use of new whiz-bang features on future versions of software that is written for the MacTel box, and not my PPC.
So, place your bets ladies and gentlemen. Will software companies come out with must-have feature upgrades for their "Made-for-MacTel"-only software before I've gotten my money's worth out of a PowerPC I buy today?
I would appreciate any thoughts on this.
— Spalding
Various Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Actually it's Freescale Mac's (Freescale Semiconductor broke off of Motorolla if I remember right) and that's just for the G4 chips, IBM makes the G5 chips.
There are two choices I see, if you need portability, then wait for the Mactels laptops and updates of your needed software.
If you need a desktop then get a Quad for the best longterm power bang for the buck and continue to use present software as universal binaries will be available for a long time.
Do get AppleCare and grab as much Powermac CPU power as you can get at the expense of better monitors, RAM and video card. You can upgrade these later.
Apple monitor is covered by AppleCare if purchased with a new Mac.
The new Mactels will very highly likely be dual cores standard as will be most all computers too, so to seperate yourself from the rest a Quad PowerMac is in order as the software will be bloated to take advantage of new hardware as always.
http://appleintelfaq.com/

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