Upgrade to mac pro from two G5's

I am currently using a G5 2.5 ghz as my main Logic computer, and an additional G5 2.0 ghz to ease the cpu burden by hosting Ivory as well as additional instances of Kontakt, EWQLSO, etc. This works fine but I would prefer to use one computer if it were powerful enough. Would an upgrade to the latest 8 core Mac Pro give me as much or more power than the two G5's?
(I'm aware of the various possibilities for combining these and other computers, but for present purposes I'm only interested in the comparison between one Mac Pro and two G5's.)

But are you saying that one will be more powerful than my current implementation of two G5's?
Well, I never used 2 dual G5's together, but with one 1.8 dual G5 I could get a max of 2 instances of Akoustik Piano along with maybe 10 other tracks. So if I had 2 dual G5's that were a little faster @ 2.0+ I would probably get about 4 or 5 Akoustik piano's along with maybe 30-40 other tracks? I just set up a test song on my 8 core 2.8 with 10 Akoustic Piano's and 40 other tracks with many plugs without the slightest problem and I could have done more. So in my humble opinion a single 8 core Mac Pro will easily out perform 2 G5's. Let me just add that the Akoustik Piano's all ganged up on one core. While all of logics instruments were evenly spread over 8 core's. So I think 10 Akoustik Piano's may be my limit. As I deleted each Akoustic Piano instance the stress on that one core went down from the red until with just one instance it was barely reading.
Cheers,
RealDave
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Model Name:          Mac Pro
Model Identifier:          MacPro1,1
Processor Name:          Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed:          2.66 GHz
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L2 Cache (per processor):          4 MB
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what a long post....Apple, btw, does not read this stuff, so ranting, raving, and complaining here might make you feel good, but it does no good at all. That being said, I, too have a Mac Pro Quad Core Xeon with 6 gigs of ram and an nVidia 8800 GT graphics card (not as good as yours, alas) and I've had no problems at all with it. Yes, it doesn't have Thunderbolt, but maybe we Mac pro owners will get lucky and someone will come out with an adapter (probably not). No, you probably don't have to throw away your Mac Pro, but if you do, I'll take it, for a small "recycling" fee >:-) That was a joke. Yes, the Mac Pro's future isn't quite clear, YET. Hopefully that will improve very soon. As for not being able to upgrade to Mountain Lion. Don't worry about that too much, Nobody is forcing you to do that. Your Mac Pro won't quit working if it isn't installed. From what I've heard, you should give the new OS a chance, and wait to get it, in case there might be some bugs, or stuff not working with the new OS, which has been known to happen. Yes, we Mac Pro owners don't like being treated like mushrooms-kept in the dark, and being fed......... but Apple is Apple and it will do what it does, and there is nothing you or me can really do to change that. All I can say is....trust, have faith, be patient, go for a walk, do something else to take your mind off of this problem. IF apple decides to drop the Mac Pro for good, and that's a big "IF", I think they will anger a whole bunch of people
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Dalfe wrote:
Hello,
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ATI Radeon 4850, Radeon 4870
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Thank you for any help and/or information !
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