Upgraded to Lion, wish I'd stayed with Snow Leopard

Just venting here....
I bought my first Mac in 1985, and I have been using them ever since. I have always eagerly anticipated the release of a new OS, and I have never been disappointed--until now. I upgraded to Lion on the first day it came out, and I wish I had just stayed with Snow Leopard. Some of the changes baffle me, as well as the absence of useful features I'd come to rely on in Leopard and Snow Leopard.
Oh, well. I'm hoping I will grow to like Lion as time goes on.

Well, one reason for this is that you know FCP very well...
All the more reason to stay with it, though it does appear that Apple has turned their collective backs on users, such as you.
Now, one answer would be for Adobe to throw away PrPro, then license the code from Apple, and create FCP8, which many previous users want. Oh wait, they have done almost that, just to get the FCP users to jump ship, regardless of what the loyal PrPro users were accustomed to.
Maybe all you have to do is wait a bit, and soon PrPro will actually become FCP8?
Good luck,
Hunt

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Staying With Snow Leopard

Hi.
I'm seriously thinking about forgetting the whole Lion/Mountain Lion idea, and just staying with Snow Leopard as my main OS over the next couple of years. My computers seem to like it, and it's clean and stable.
I'm wondering, though, whether SL will be supported enough to be okay to use, once Mountain Lion comes out. Does anyone have any idea how well the older OS'es hold up after the newer ones are released?

Does anyone have any idea how well the older OS'es hold up after the newer ones are released?
Very well in fact. Many people still use Tiger as it was arguably the best for older G4s. Apple even released a version of Safari for it in November 2010, years after Tiger was discontinued.
Your biggest concern will be lack of support from third party software developers, but considering everything written for Snow Leopard requires Intel code it is unlikely anything developed for Snow will become obsolete any time soon. All software will be distributed through the App Store but Snow Leopard already has that.
Right now I don't know of anything that requires Lion, other than certain Apple features like AirDrop.
Lion and its eventual descendants will only improve but that's no reason you have to jump in right now. Lion is a major release, arguably the biggest change in OS X since its inception. Waiting is OK.

Installing Lion and formatting my Mac (with Snow Leopard)

Hey everybody!
I have a MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard.
I want to install Lion from the App Store and format my Mac. How should I do it?
Thanks!

Aha!
The proper way to "clean" a computer before selling it is to zero the hard drive. This will make all your data irretrievable.
Steps for zeroing the drive Disk Utility:
1. Insert your Mac OS X CD-ROM disc or Restore DVD disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key until you see the spinning gear.
2. Once started up from CD or DVD, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu.
Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from disc to access Disk Utility.
3. Choose the entire disk (top icon).
4. Choose erase tab.
5. Click on Options
6. Choose "write zeros".
7. Erase
This will take a bit of time because the computer is physically writing zeros to each block.
You should then re-install the original OS from the system disks and deliver the Mac to the new owner with the system disks that shipped with it.
If you want it to boot as new at startup, do the installation of OS X and follow the onscreen prompts until it asks you to enter a username and password to create your first account. Quit the installer and shut down the system. The next time the system is powered on it will display the same welcome message and be ready to setup OS X.
Or you can delete the AppleSetupDone file.
rm -rf /var/db/.AppleSetupDone

Is MacBookPro Upgradeable to Lion since it still ships with Snow Leopard, Is MacBookPro Upgradeable to Lion since it still ships with Snow Leopard

I know that Apple can't preannounce product but I don't understand why the MacBook Pro still ships with Snow Leopard when Lion available and ships with the MacBook Air. Will the MacBook Pro be upgradeable to Lion?

Hi William,
Certainly. For now, though, I'd consider it a bonus that it can boot into/run with either SL or Lion, and Lion is included with any Mac purchased at this time.

Lion - I have to say I should have stayed with Snow Leopard

I am not a huge of Lion at all. In Snow Leopard and using Parallels I could print, email and work flawlessly. But I made the stupid decision to upgrade to Lion and now I cannot for the life of me print From Parallels at all now. THIS *****!!! In a company where printing large sheets in a MUST - it dissappoints me that I cannot use my machine as I need it to be used. I think Apple needs to reconsider their operatig system....
I miss Snow Leopard...
Angela
PS That is Lion, Parallels 7, Windows 7 and HP Designjet 500 42-inch. I can print just fine from Mac but not Parallels (this set up worked great on Snow Leopard/Parallels 7)

I have not had any problems setting up any printer, so far, from Lion with Vmware Fusion and Win XP. Or from Win 7 on PC. And I use a Designjet 500 also
You are not doing something right. If you upgraded to Lion over Snow Leopard you may have to Re-install Parallels, latest version, Load your Win 7 Virtual Machine (in Fusion I can save the complete Win OS anywhere on my system or network and then copy it back and run it) and then re-Install the print drivers for your printer.

Opinions please on Lion or stay with snow leopard.

I have a 24in imac with a 2.8intel core 2 duo w/ 2 g of ram. Everything works perfectly now and after weeks of browsing the discussions and the web I am really afraid to upgrade to lion. The only reason I might have to is because of all my .mac /.me mail accounts. After years of use most of my mail accounts are with mobile me and I would be lost trying to change everyone of them. I moved all my galleries to Picassa and I never used idisk. Does anyone with this computer and processor have anything encouraging to say about lion? Many have said it slowed their computers down considerably. Thank you for any advice.

Lion will not slow down your computer unless you do not have adequate RAM. 2 GBs is the required minimum, but practically you need at least 4 GBs. That said unless you have some specific need to use Lion there's no need to upgrade. Eventually you will have to if you want to use iCloud.
How to Install Lion Successfully - You must have Snow Leopard 10.6.7 or 10.6.8 Installed
A. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions:
Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. Then select Disk Utility from the Utilities. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer. Now restart normally.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.3.) if DW cannot fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall Snow Leopard.
B. Make a Bootable Backup Using Restore Option of Disk Utility:
Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
Select the destination volume from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Destination means the backup volume. Source means the internal startup volume.
C. Important: Please read before installing:
If you have a FireWire hard drive connected, disconnect it before installing the update unless you will boot from this drive and install the update on it. Reconnect it and turn it back on after installation is complete and you've restarted.
You may experience unexpected results if you have installed third-party system software modifications, or if you have modified the operating system through other means. (This does not apply to normal application software installation.)
The installation process should not be interrupted. If a power outage or other interruption occurs during installation, use the standalone installer (see below) from Apple Downloads to update. While the installation is in progress do not use the computer.
D. To upgrade to Lion:
Purchase the Lion Installer from the Mac App Store. The download will start quickly. Lion is nearly 4 GBs so a fast internet connection is essential. Download time could run upwards of 4 hours depending upon network conditions and server demands at the time.
Boot From The Lion Installer which is located in your Applications folder.
Follow instructions for installation.

Network Accounts used on Lion computers no longer work with Snow Leopard computers.

I am having issues with my network users who have once used a computer with Lion on it joined to the network then going to use a Snow Leopard workstation and Google Chrome and Safari crash randomly either at the first 30 seconds or typing a space or backspace character.

I am also facing this situation with a 2007 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Mac Mini that is running OS 10.7.4 Lion, which is not upgradable to Mountain Lion because it requires 64 bit processsing, while the Mini is limited to 32 bit. Why is Pages suddenly crippled? I've never seen anything like this. Somehow, Pages was upgraded to 4.2 and now it no longer runs even though I have upgraded to your last latest OS before Mountain Lion. What gives, Apple? I've spent thousands on your products over the years, from an Apple IIgs, IIci, Mac 6100, 7100, iMac, and on through my two iPad and five iPhones. We customers deserve an explanation, not the silent treatment. Fix this.

Can I upgrade to Lion given that I currently run Snow Leopard on an external drive?

I run Snow Leopard on an external HD. If I upgrade to Lion will it install and run there successfully? My internal HD is dead.

Yes it will, in fact that was my configuartion for a while before I installed on the internal.

I have just upgraded to Snow Leopard and have lost my epson printer software. On Epson Aus. web page there is no upgrade of their software for my printer with Snow Leopard. Can i download a lesser operating system software for printer?

I have just upgraded to snow leopard and lost my epson printer software. I have checked Epson Aus web site for printer software but they haven't upgraded it for snow leopard. Am i able to download software for a lesser operating system then snow leopard or do i have to purchase a new printer? The model is stylus photo R310.

Have you tried the R300 or R320 software? Typically the software covers a broad spectrum of printers, often providinbg overlap to cover "relatives" of a series.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid= 47541&prodoid=47915738&infoType=Downloads&platform=Macintosh

New MBP - should I stay with Snow Leopard or jump to Lion?

Running Final Cut Studio 3 I have just upgraded our older MBP15 Core Duo to a nearly new MBP15 Quad-core i7. I will install FCS3 on it and wonder if Lion is stable with FCS now? Any thoughts?
Paul Shard
Producer - Distant Shores - www.distantshores.ca

I agree with Robert .. You really need to ask yourself why you would need Lion. I have a total of 7 various MACs from MBP to Air's and MAC Pro all stillrunning Snow Lep ..all because it does all I need and I can use FCS3 in a very stable and workflow way that suits me. I know the foibles and have no need for FXPX either. I see Robert runs both and have read on many occasions other doing the same. I have also read others having issues .. it seems to be dependant on how you upgrade .. I have no need so do not change .. I also drive a four year old car for the same reason ..
Jim
http://jimkells.com

Is there a cd drive that can be externally connected with my macbook pro unibody version approx. 2007? My cd drive is broke and want to upgrade to lion but need to update to snow leopard first.

Is there an external cd drive that can be connected to my macbook pro, unibody, approx 2007. My cd drive is broken and I want to install snow leopard which only comes on a cd.

Yes Any exrernal DVD drive that connecs by USP port will work. It does not have to be sold by or have the Apple name on it to work. I use an Asus, got it from newegg.com. $30US.

Problem with upgrading hard drive in 2009 Macbook Pro with Snow Leopard

Current drive is 320gb with fresh install of OS SL updated with some other programs installed. New drive is Seagate Momentus 750, same brand and model as the old, just bigger.
I install the new drive, boot off the OS SL CD and go into disk utility. Partition and format with GUID and Journaled. Install starts and ultimately fails every time.
Tried to clone the 320 by putting it in the macbook, use the 750 via usb/sata. Drive restores, but it is unreliable in loading and stability. When it gets to the grey screen, it alternately flickers the Apple, Folder and NO sign. Sometimes it loads, sometimes it just keeps spinning. When it does load, it's slow and programs that take more power crash.
Brought it to Apple. They said it was a problem in the SMART section, so I got a new drive under warranty. This is the THIRD drive i've gotten from Seagate. Still doesn't work.
I've countlessly repaired and verified the drive. Helps to load sometimes, but not all the time.
If I put the 320 back in, everything works great.
Thanks.
-Ben

Is there a quality external enclosure to put the large drive in, one that has its own power supply and not rely on the port power in the MacBook/Pro? If it is a viable drive and can actually run a bootable OS X version, I'd begin to wonder after all that.
{I'd also looked up your computer in MacTracker to see what if any limits on hardware upgrade may exist. Nothing said of direct interest to the HDD. Also in everymac.com, so there should be no surprises. Yet to have those problems is troublesome and a surprise. New drives can fail. Maybe in batches?}
And a clone of a working system for backup could be made with a utility such as CarbonCopy cloner or superduper, etc then tested as a bootable clone, with the hard disk drive tested thoroughly before use. It also is odd that a drive of that size would act up, I see drives of even larger size offered online by reputible resellers and Mac specialist companies who have been around awhile, such as OWC. I just looked to see if there was a ceiling on support of larger size HDD capacities, and 750GB is not the largest. Maybe the series you chose could be among a troublesome batch or brand.
http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?model=302 has a variety of stuff, including RAM, HDD, SSD, etc. And their staff has people who know what they sell. Well, some of them do. I had called them on a topic several years ago and they didn't really have an answer (I was given an OWC dual HDD external drive & it had issues, but had never been used. It still is sitting as-new, w/o support; now obsolete.)
I'd try a different brand and put it into an enclosure that has its own power supply, ports for USB2.0/3.0 and FW400/800, and so on. Perhaps even an OWC line item, not that I've had any valid experience with them here in AK. And ask their people about their products, get names, finger prints, mug shots...! LOL
Good luck & happy computing!

I have a MacBook White. Everything worked great with Snow Leopard including Mathematica, and all Pogo games. I downloaded Lion two days ago and now neither program works. The box states that I need J/Link, and/or java runtime. Help.

I have a MacBook White, early 2009 model, just downloaded/installed OS X Lion. Everything worked well with Snow Leopard - Mathematica, pogo.com games. Now, with Lion, I am getting a box that states I need J/Link, and/or java runtime. Software update feature states all software is up to date. Help.

StoneComputers wrote:
What about the incredable lag time from clicking on a program to the time it opens (or the time till the loading screen starts)? I wish I could record it and play it so I could see if thats normal from other members... the icon just sitting there for over 35 second (I just counted 36 till the loading screen popped up) at first I thought it was me not clicking hard enought cuz the mouse button I have is real stiff (any ideas on that?) but no it takes that long just to get to the app loading screen... this happens every time same amount of time with the 3 programs I use the most, prolly more but I know for a fact world of warcraft, uTorrent, and Google Chrome. I would just chalk it up to slow hardware but they load real quick in windows 7 and once this bad spot is loaded the program runs so fast and nice afterword. Maybe some tweeks? I wonder if this would happen in Snow?
The coment "few outdated programs" Ive seen alot its not just a few its a lot and since games are not Apple's strong point I would think they would want to keep as many as they could...
An example of the rants you will see from a lot here. Don't be put off as these problems are generally user specific, and these same old comments come out after the release of every OSX I can remember. When Lion is upgraded to the next OSX you can gaurentee these forums will be full of people screaming about how great Lion was. Happened with Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard.
So come to think of it you may be better off Googling sites that give you unbiased views on Lion, rather than expect any positive comments here. For every one complaint there are probably 100,000 people with no issues.
Cheers

Please help Apple??? It worked fine with Snow Leopard??

I recently upgraded to Lion and now cant see my Windows 7 laptop in network? Or see my macbook Air 2010 on my win7 laptop. Please help Apple??? It worked fine with Snow Leopard??

You're not addressing Apple here, you are addressing a user based community. An Apple employee may read your post but he/she will not officially respond to it.
You didn't say if your networking is Wi-Fi or USB Dongle based so I'm assuming Wi-Fi in this response. If you do a search of the forums you will find that quite a few are having Wi-Fi issues with Lion--things that worked fine with Snow Leopard are flakey or don't work at all with Lion so your problem may be another instance of the Wi-Fi issues in Lion. If not, then perhaps someone with knowledge of your specific issue will post. I see my other Macs (MBP, 24" iMac, 27" iMac all running Lion) fine but I don't have a PC to test.

Syncing Photos to Macbook Pro with Snow Leopard 10.6.1 from iPhone 4s

With my iPhone 4s plugged into the Macbook It will backup and sync using iTunes but when I click on the device icon on the left it wants to set up a MobileMe account and the iPhone has iCloud turned on. I want to stay with Snow Leopard 10.6.1 Is there any way to get the photos on the iPhone accessible? Thanks.
Also The iPhone isn't coming up on my desktop.

Thanks
In iTunes my iPhone is located under devices,named and selectable. In iPhoto the logo is there but no name and no pictures coming up.
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Upgraded to Lion, wish I'd stayed with Snow Leopard

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