Upgraded to Tiger - Inbox is gone!

I just upgraded to Tiger last week (10.4.6) and went in to email again for the first time today to respond to some messages. The entire inbox was offline! (Hundreds of messages). When I clicked on one, the message that came up was: "...You need to take this account online in order to download it." But I was already online!
So I googled and found the following apple support page: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25812
Which recommended that I "rebuild". So I did it. But now while my sent and drafts are fully online, my inbox only has 16 messages in it (all of which are now online.) I have tried Importing Mailbox - but no matter what Inbox folder I choose, it seems to not be able to find any mailboxes to import. I'm desperate!!! Any help would be much appreciated!
powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Thanks, beatleny, for finding that post for me . Apparently, I didn't save that mailbox cleanup procedure on my computer when I wrote it. I've saved it now (after slightly modifying it) so that I'll be able to easily reuse it in other cases.
Hadn't you found that thread, Allan would have provided a similar procedure to fix your problem. Actually, I initially learned about how to do this by reading Allan's and Ernie's posts on similar topics.
Since the other thread ended up becoming a bit messy, I'll post the procedure here for reference:
1. Quit Mail.
2. Create a folder on the Desktop and name it however you wish (e.g. Inbox-Old). It doesn't need to have an .mbox extension.
3. In the Finder, go to HOME/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/.
4. Move the mbox file to the Inbox-Old folder just created on the Desktop. This file contains all the messages that were in the mailbox before the upgrade to Tiger (maybe even some messages that had been deleted).
5. Move any strangely-named Messages-XXXXXX folder to the Desktop (not into the Inbox-Old folder). These are temporary folders created during an import process. Mail should automatically delete them when done. Their presence is a clear indication that something didn't work as expected. These folders are to be deleted after fixing the problem, but should be kept somewhere until then, in case they contain messages that are neither in Messages proper nor in the mbox file.
6. Move everything else within INBOX.mbox, except the Messages folder, to the Trash.
The result of the above should be that INBOX.mbox contains the Messages folder only, and the Inbox-Old folder on the Desktop contains the mbox file only. Now, proceed as follows:
7. Open Mail.
8. The account's Inbox should properly display in Mail as many messages as *.emlx files are in HOME/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/Messages/. If that's not the case, select the mailbox in Mail and do Mailbox > Rebuild.
9. In Mail, do File > Import Mailboxes, choose Other as the data format, and follow the instructions to import the Inbox-Old folder that's on the Desktop. Do with the imported mail whatever you wish. You may move to the account's Inbox the messages that Mail failed to convert properly, and delete those that did get through and, hence, are duplicates now.
The following collection of AppleScripts has a Remove Duplicates script that can be useful for removing duplicate messages:
http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html
If all is well and you're not missing anything, the files on the Desktop can be deleted, although you may want to keep them for a while, just in case.

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Lost messages in inbox when upgrade to Tiger

I just installed Tiger and lost all the messages in my inbox except the ones that were still on my mail server and could be reloaded into my mailbox. How do I get my lost messages back?

The conversion from Mail 1.x to Mail 2.x is broken. Take a look at the following thread to better understand the problem:
Help! "You need to take this account online in order to download it."
In particular, you may want to take a look at the following article (also referenced in that thread) to learn what you might have done before upgrading to minimize the risk of this happening, and what you may do after fixing the problem to avoid similar issues from happening in the future. DON'T do now what the article suggests, though, as that would make things worse in the current situation:
Overstuffed mailbox is unexpectedly empty
More specifically, if this is a POP account, the following procedure should allow you to fix the Inbox problems:
1. Quit Mail.
2. Make a backup copy of the ~/Library/Mail folder, just in case something goes wrong while trying to fix the problem. You can do this in the Finder by dragging the folder to the Desktop while holding the Option (Alt) key down, for example. This is where all your mail is stored.
3. Create a new folder on the Desktop and name it however you wish (e.g. Inbox Old). It doesn't need to have an .mbox extension.
4. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/.
5. Move the files mbox and Incoming_Mail out of INBOX.mbox, into the Inbox Old folder just created on the Desktop. These files contain all the messages that were in the mailbox before the upgrade to Tiger, and maybe even some messages that had been deleted. mbox is the most important. Incoming_Mail may or may not be present.
6. Move any strangely-named Messages-XXXXXX folder to the Desktop (not into the Inbox Old folder). These folders are to be deleted after fixing the problem. They are temporary folders created during an import or an indexing process, and Mail should have deleted them when done. Their presence is a clear indication that something didn't work as expected. If you've been using Mail after the conversion and have already tried to fix the problem by rebuilding the mailbox or something like that, they might contain messages that are neither in Messages proper nor in the mbox file, so keep them around until the problem is fixed.
7. Move everything else within INBOX.mbox, except the Messages folder, to the Trash.
The result of the above should be that INBOX.mbox contains the proper Messages folder only, and the Inbox Old folder on the Desktop contains the mbox and Incoming_Mail (if it exists) files only. Now, proceed as follows:
8. Open Mail.
9. The account's Inbox should properly display in Mail as many messages as *.emlx files are in ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/Messages/. If that's not the case, select the mailbox in Mail and do Mailbox > Rebuild.
10. In Mail, do File > Import Mailboxes, choose Other as the data format, and follow the instructions to import the Inbox Old folder that's on the Desktop. Do with the imported mail whatever you wish. You may move to the account's Inbox the messages that Mail failed to convert properly, and delete those that did get through and, hence, are duplicates now.
The following collection of AppleScripts has a Remove Duplicates script that can be useful for removing duplicate messages:
http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html
If all is well and you're not missing anything, the files on the Desktop can be deleted, although you may want to keep them for a while, just in case.
Ask for any clarifications or if you need further assistance.
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user's home folder, i.e. ~/Library is the Library folder within the user's home folder.

Entourage (2004) creates duplicate inbox messages after upgrade to Tiger

I recently upgraded to Tiger in order to sync my iphone.
All works well except incoming mail messages duplicate themselves in my Entourage Inbox.
Some of the duplicate messages cannot be opened completely and cannot be deleted.
I unsuccessfully searched Mactopia for a patch.
I sync with an Exchange server at my office and had no problems with Panther.
Also I do not get the duplicate emails on my iphone or my MS Outlook Web Mail.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Paul

I had the same issue. I found that I had two entries under my account settings, which pointed to the same mail server. Once I deleted one of the accouint entries, the problem has been resolved.

Inbox Mail Missing from Upgrade to Tiger

I've just upgraded (Archive and Install) to 10.4.6 from 10.3.9. Everything seems ok, but I'm missing all of my old mail. All of my old SENT, DRAFT and TRASH mail is there, but only mail from today is in the INBOX.
Can anybody help?
Thanks,
Patrick

This is a known issue. The conversion from Mail 1.x to Mail 2.x is broken. Take a look at the following thread to better understand the problem:
Help! "You need to take this account online in order to download it."
In particular, you may want to take a look at the following article (also referenced in that thread) to learn what you might have done before upgrading to minimize the risk of this happening, and what you may do after fixing the problem to avoid similar issues from happening in the future. DON'T do now what the article suggests, though, as that would make things worse in the current situation:
Overstuffed mailbox is unexpectedly empty
More specifically, if this is a POP account, the following procedure should allow you to fix the Inbox problems:
1. Quit Mail.
2. Make a backup copy of the ~/Library/Mail folder, just in case something goes wrong while trying to fix the problem. You can do this in the Finder by dragging the folder to the Desktop while holding the Option (Alt) key down, for example. This is where all your mail is stored.
3. Create a new folder on the Desktop and name it however you wish (e.g. Inbox Old). It doesn't need to have an .mbox extension.
4. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/.
5. Move the files mbox and Incoming_Mail out of INBOX.mbox, into the Inbox Old folder just created on the Desktop. These files contain all the messages that were in the mailbox before the upgrade to Tiger, and maybe even some messages that had been deleted. mbox is the most important. Incoming_Mail may or may not be present.
6. Move any strangely-named Messages-XXXXXX folder to the Desktop (not into the Inbox Old folder). These folders are to be deleted after fixing the problem. They are temporary folders created during an import or an indexing process, and Mail should have deleted them when done. Their presence is a clear indication that something didn't work as expected. If you've been using Mail after the conversion and have already tried to fix the problem by rebuilding the mailbox or something like that, they might contain messages that are neither in Messages proper nor in the mbox file, so keep them around until the problem is fixed.
7. Move everything else within INBOX.mbox, except the Messages folder, to the Trash.
The result of the above should be that INBOX.mbox contains the proper Messages folder only, and the Inbox Old folder on the Desktop contains the mbox and Incoming_Mail (if it exists) files only. Now, proceed as follows:
8. Open Mail.
9. The account's Inbox should properly display in Mail as many messages as *.emlx files are in ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/Messages/. If that's not the case, select the mailbox in Mail and do Mailbox > Rebuild.
10. In Mail, do File > Import Mailboxes, choose Other as the data format, and follow the instructions to import the Inbox Old folder that's on the Desktop. Do with the imported mail whatever you wish. You may move to the account's Inbox the messages that Mail failed to convert properly, and delete those that did get through and, hence, are duplicates now.
The following collection of AppleScripts has a Remove Duplicates script that can be useful for removing duplicate messages:
http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html
If all is well and you're not missing anything, the files on the Desktop can be deleted, although you may want to keep them for a while, just in case.
Ask for any clarifications or if you need further assistance.
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user's home folder, i.e. ~/Library is the Library folder within the user's home folder.

IPhoto library gone after upgrade to Tiger

My iPhoto library was empty after upgrading to Tiger. I am on my 4th digital camera, so you can imagine how many photos I can no longer find. What is worse, and I don't think there is anything worse, I can no longer see photos of my child who is deceased. I want my photos back!! Can anyone help. The "computer nerd" company that did our upgrade is of no help at all. They talk to me as if I knew anything about computers and I know nothing. Please help me.
Elizabeth,
Ray'sMom

Phil
Three separate issues then:
1. The files which are corrupt or a file format that Preview doesn't recognize
Some things to try:
Change the file suffix to .jpg (i.e lowercase) or .jpeg and see if that helps.
Download Graphic Coverter and try open them with it. Graphic Converter is a image editor, and frankly, if it won't open them, I doubt anything will.
2. "Unreadable Files: 1
The following could not be imported. (The file is in the iPhoto Library folder.)"?
iPhoto will not import files from the iPhoto Library Folder - it's a simple protection against duplication.
3. iPhoto fails to display any of these images at all.
Do you get a blank square in the iPhoto Window? What happens when you click on a pic to edit it in the iPhoto Window? Do you get a ? or a !
The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between the thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents. The most common cause of this is User Activity in the iPhoto Library Folder. Have you altered, moved or renamed anything in the iPhoto Library Folder?
If you haven't, then try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option (or alt) keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild. Choose the top three options.
If you want to start over:
To create and populate a new library:
Note this will give you a working library with the same film rolls and pictures as before, however, you will lose your albums, keywords, books, calendars etc.
Move the iPhoto Library Folder to the desktop
Launch iPhoto. It will ask if you wish to create a new Library. Say Yes.
Go into the iPhoto Library Folder on your desktop and find the Originals folder. From the Originals folder drag the individual rolls to the iPhoto Window and it will recreate them in the new library.
When you're sure all is well you can delete the iPhoto Library Folder on your desktop.
In the future, in addition to your usual back up routine, you might like to make a copy of the library6.iPhoto file whenever you have made changes to the library as protection against database corruption.
Regards
TD

Upgraded to tiger, mail gets hung up on importing old messages.

I had my pwrbk tuned up and upgraded to Tiger. All files were swept onto a dvd for back up and just plopped back on again after the install. When I click on mail to 'mail' it wants to import my "existing Mail messages into the new version"... so I 'continue' as it requests and (sighhh) it procedes to import (sighhh) my 4500 or so (who's counting) messages. It gets hung up on #1363 (which I believe is in the 'sent' folder) and the time remaining keeps increasing...- I mean - I gave it a chance - the battery (brand spank me new) ran all the way down AND we plugged it in too ... it happens every time. How to bypass this import without deleting all my old emails and just excise the offending hanger-upper?

The conversion from Mail 1.x to Mail 2.x is broken. Even if Mail didn’t freeze while importing, there is no guarantee that it would import the old mailboxes successfully. Take a look at the following thread for an example:
Just upgraded, Most of my old Inbox is gone!
You could apply the procedure described there to the mailboxes that Mail appears to be choking on. Alternatively, you could move the entire account folder out of ~/Library/Mail/ (to the Desktop) and manually import its mailboxes afterwards as Other.

Problem with mail after upgrading to tiger...

When I upgraded the OS in my PowerBook, all the mail messages in my in-box disappeared. Now, the only thing that shows up in each mail is the following, "The message from [Antonio john Doe <[email protected]>] concerning “Stuff” has not been downloaded from the server. You need to take this account online in order to download it."
The e-mail is also gone from the earthlink
server because they wipe all mail out after a few days. Is there a
way to recover the messages?
Powermac G5 dual 1.8 Mac OS X (10.4.6) 1.3 Gb ram

The conversion from Mail 1.x to Mail 2.x is broken. Take a look at the following thread to better understand the problem:
Help! "You need to take this account online in order to download it."
More specifically, if this is a POP account, the following procedure should allow you to fix the Inbox problem. A similar procedure should allow you to fix other mailboxes that might also be affected:
1. Quit Mail if it’s running.
2. Make a backup copy of the ~/Library/Mail folder, just in case something goes wrong while trying to fix the problem. You can do this in the Finder by dragging the folder to the Desktop while holding the Option (Alt) key down, for example. This is where all your mail is stored.
3. Create a new folder on the Desktop and name it however you wish (e.g. Inbox Old). It doesn’t need to have an .mbox extension.
4. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/.
5. Move the files mbox and Incoming_Mail out of INBOX.mbox, into the Inbox Old folder just created on the Desktop. These files contain all the messages that were in the mailbox before the upgrade to Tiger, and maybe even some messages that had been deleted. mbox is the most important. Incoming_Mail may or may not be present.
6. Move any strangely-named Messages-T0x... folders to the Desktop (not into the Inbox Old folder). These folders are to be deleted after fixing the problem. They are temporary folders created during an import or an indexing process, and Mail should have deleted them when done. Their presence is a clear indication that something didn’t work as expected. If you’ve been using Mail after the conversion and have already tried to fix the problem by rebuilding the mailbox or something like that, they might contain messages that are neither in Messages proper nor in the mbox file, so keep them around until the problem is fixed.
7. Move everything else within INBOX.mbox, except the Messages folder, to the Trash.
The result of the above should be that INBOX.mbox contains the proper Messages folder only, and the Inbox Old folder on the Desktop contains the mbox and Incoming_Mail (if it exists) files only. Now, proceed as follows:
8. Open Mail.
9. The account’s Inbox should properly display in Mail as many messages as *.emlx files are in ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/Messages/. If that’s not the case, select the mailbox in Mail and do Mailbox > Rebuild.
10. In Mail, do File > Import Mailboxes, choose Other as the data format, and follow the instructions to import the Inbox Old folder that’s on the Desktop.
As a result of doing the above, some messages may be duplicated now. Andreas Amann’s Mail Scripts has a Remove Duplicates script that you may find useful for that.
Do with the imported mail whatever you wish. You may move the messages anywhere you want and get rid of the imported mailboxes afterwards.
If all is well and you don’t miss anything, the files on the Desktop can be deleted, although you may want to keep them for a while, just in case.
You may want to take a look at the following article (also referenced in the thread I mentioned at the beginning of this post) to learn what you might have done before upgrading to minimize the risk of this happening, and what you may do after fixing the problem to avoid similar issues from happening in the future. DON’T do now what the article suggests, though, as that would make things worse in the current situation:
Overstuffed mailbox is unexpectedly empty
Ask for any clarifications or if you need further assistance.
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user’s home folder, i.e. ~/Library is the Library folder within the user’s home folder.

Why is Mail unable to import existing messages after upgrade to Tiger?

After upgarading to Tiger, I opened Mail and was informed that all existing mail messages needed to be imported in the new version. Everything started out fine until 'sent' messages were being imported. The time for the import went from a few minutes to 14+ hours and the count remained stuck at 1,634. I cancelled the import and tried it again but each time the sticking point is at 1,634 messages

The conversion from Mail 1.x to Mail 2.x is broken. Here’s an example of the most common variant of this problem and how to proceed in those cases:
Just upgraded, Most of my old Inbox is gone!
Your problem, however, is different in that you don’t even get past an incomplete conversion. If Mail stalls during the conversion process, you may try to identify the mailboxes that Mail is choking on, quit Mail, move those mailboxes out of ~/Library/Mail/ (e.g. to the Destkop), and trash any Envelope Index-named files you may see in ~/Library/Mail/, so that Mail re-creates the index and tries to import the remaining mailboxes again, then manually import the problematic mailboxes as Other.
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Alternatively, you may want to set up Mail from scratch and manually import your mail back afterwards. This would allow you to use Mail normally while solving the problem of importing the old mail as you see fit:
1. Quit Mail if it’s running.
2. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/. Move (not copy) the entire Mail folder out of there, to the Desktop.
3. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Preferences/. Locate com.apple.mail.plist and move it to the Desktop.
4. Open Mail and set it up again from scratch. If given the option to import existing mailboxes or something like that, don’t. Just enter the account information and check that everything works fine.
5. You’ll have to re-configure all your settings in Mail > Preferences. For spam-related security reasons, the first thing you should do is go to Preferences > Viewing and disable Display remote images in HTML messages if it’s enabled.
6. Do File > Import Mailboxes and follow the instructions to import your mail from the old Mail folder that’s now on the Desktop. Import the Mailboxes folder first, then each of the POP-username@mailserver account folders, if any.
There are two ways to import Mail 1.x mailboxes into Mail 2.x. The obvious one is importing them as Mail for Mac OS X. But Mail 1.x stored mail in standard mbox format plus some additional support files, and this allows Mail 1.x mailboxes to also be imported as Other, i.e. as generic mailboxes in standard mbox format.
Importing as Mail for Mac OS X produces the best results when it works, because it takes into consideration all the files in the mailboxes, not just the mbox files where the messages are stored, and hence, allows information such as status flags to be preserved. Importing as Other, on the other hand, may work in cases where importing as Mail for Mac OS X doesn’t, because it looks at the mbox files only, ignoring the support files which is what Mail 2.x usually chokes on, but precisely because of that, information such as status flags is lost and previously deleted messages may reappear.
Hence, you may try importing as much as you can as Mail for Mac OS X, then import the problematic mailboxes as Other.
Note that what Mail asks for when importing depends on the format chosen. Mail always asks for the folder that contains the “things” to be imported. If Mail for Mac OS X is chosen as the data format, the “things” to be imported are the *.mbox folders, so you must choose the folder that contains them, not the *.mbox folders themselves. On the other hand, if Other is chosen as the data format, the “things” to be imported are the mbox files, so you must choose the *.mbox folders that contain them in that case.
Note also that some of the mailboxes now on the Desktop may have already been partially converted to the new *.emlx format during the previous (failed) attempt to convert them in place. If you tell Mail 2.x to import as Mail for Mac OS X a mailbox that already has a Messages folder, Mail will simply ignore the Mail 1.x files present there. If the mailbox was successfully converted to the new format, that’s fine, but if the conversion was incomplete, that’s not what you want.
As a result of doing all the above, some messages may be duplicated. Andreas Amann’s Mail Scripts has a Remove Duplicates script that you may find useful.
If all is well and you don’t miss anything, the files on the Desktop can be deleted, although you may want to keep them for a while, just in case.
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user’s home folder. You can easily locate any of the folders referred to in this post by copying the folder path here, doing Go > Go to Folder in the Finder, and pasting the folder path there.

How can I recover all my MAIL emails lost after upgrading to TIGER?

Hello,
I just bought Mac OSX Tiger today and after upgrading from the previous Mac OSX and after launching Mail, I discovered that all my INBOX emails were LOST!!!
I still have the Draft emails, the Sent emails and Trash but no trace of my 1,425 ancient and precious INBOX emails!
Please help me recover them. I tried lots of ways to get them back but cannot find them. I'd like to also understand what happened.
Thank you!
iBookG4

HI Greta, Did you Clean Install Tiger, or Upgrade from a previous OS? as if the latter, you might find them in the ARchived files.
I upgraded to Tiger in December and it caused problems with mail but I didnt lose the messages. So I am thinking you did a clean install.
Post back with more info please
Imac FP 800Mhz 80gb 256 RAM Mac OS X (10.4.3) 512 extra Ram iLife 04 LaCie 160gb Ext Airport Express 6.1.1
Imac FP 800Mhz 80gb 256 RAM Mac OS X (10.4.3) 512 extra Ram iLife 04 LaCie 160gb Ext Airport Express 6.1.1

Upgraded from Tiger and Mail is unresponsive

Hey gang-
Well tonight finally made the plunge and upgraded from Tiger 10.4.11 to Leopard 10.5.6. Naturally one of the first apps I tried was the new Mail 3.5. Unfortunately it is absolutely dead. Clicking Get Mail does nothing, and none of the email in my .Mac Inbox displays. Neither does any of my email saved locally, even though all the folders from the Tiger version of Mail are there. Clicking on each looks as though they are empty.
I have good internet connectivity, as Safari works fine. It appears that all my Mail account data transferred correctly- all my account server data is there.
FWIW, when I look at Activity in Mail, it shows two activities- both called "Gathering Children from disk for local account".
Also of interest- the only way to quit Mail is with Force Quit.
Gaccch this is a bad way to start with Leopard! Any ideas how to get Mail working?
Thanks!
Dave

Thanks to Adam I found the reply here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1849306&tstart=0
Alas I think I'm going back to Tiger...

Reinstall Panther or upgrade to Tiger?

Per earlier post, I'm having networking trouble due to the fact that I accidentally changed the name of my powerbook so now windows machine sees my mac but says the path to access it is invalid. Anyway, was thinking about upgrading to Tiger if I do a complete reinstall anyway. Pros/cons?? Also, if you had a choice between keeping Panther and adding RAM (I only have the 256 that came with the mac or upgrading to Tiger and keep 256, what would you do! Thanks for input!!!
12 Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.3.7) 256 RAM

Dan:
I concur with Don in that the first thing you should think of doing is to upgrade your RAM. An upgrade of OS will not solve all your problems. Panther is an excellend OS. Indeed, there are a number of people in these pages who have gone back to Panther from Tiger.
My suggestion is to first upgrade your RAM and update to 10.3.9. Work with that for a while, and see how it works for you. Getting the latest and best is not always the best thing for everyone. I, myself have tried Tiger and am back to Panther.
Good luck.
cornelius
PB G3 Pismo400, 100 GB 5400 Toshiba internal, 1 GB RAM Mac OS X (10.3.9) Beige G3 OS 8.6

Upgrade to Tiger again on duplicate from backup Timely help needed.

Hi I was having problems with my Mac so I upgraded my internal drive.
I'm having the same problems again.
When repairing the disk report says invalid leaf ount should be 2481 instead of 657.
Also report says 1 HSF disk was repaired but one disk couldn't be repaired, I only have one internal drive.
So I archived & install again from by install disk but now i'm back to 10.3
My email have all gone but I am recieving mail & my accounts are all there.
My browsers & Skype are not working nor Superduper which is what I used to duplicate my drive before archiving.
Now I'm wondering whether to upgrade to Tiger again using the upgrade disk & not mind loosing my mail as it's on Gmail. Or whether to duplicate my drive back again from the backup & get my mail back.
Or if I need to do an erase & install at this point.
Any suggestions?
I also have a Leopard upgrade disk that I haven't used yet but was thinking to not add too many variables & stick to Tiger for now.

Do you mean clone again now?
No. If you have a recent clone, that will suffice.
So erase & install from the original install disk to 10.3 that archive & install to Leopard?
Actually, you can boot from the Leopard disk to do this. Here's how:
Formatting, Partitioning Erasing a Hard Disk Drive
Warning! This procedure will destroy all data on your Hard Disk Drive. Be sure you have an up-to-date, tested backup of at least your Users folder and any third party applications you do not want to re-install before attempting this procedure.
• With computer shut down insert install disk in optical drive.
• Hit Power button and immediately after chime hold down the "C" key.
• Select language
• Go to the Utilities menu (Tiger and later) Installer menu (Panther & earlier) and launch Disk Utility.
• Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
• Select Partition tab in main panel. (You are about to create a single partition volume.)
• Click on Options button
• Select Apple Partition Map (PPC Macs) or GUID Partition Table (Intel Macs)
• Click OK
• Select number of partitions in pull-down menu above Volume diagram.
(Note 1: One partition is normally preferable for an internal HDD.)
• Type in name in Name field (usually Macintosh HD)
• Select Volume Format as Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
• Click Partition/Apply button at bottom of panel.
• Select Erase tab
• Select the sub-volume (indented) under Manufacturer ID (usually Macintosh HD).
• Check to be sure your Volume Name and Volume Format are correct.
• Click Erase button
• Quit Disk Utility.
Once your HDD is clean you are ready to install Leopard. You are still booted from the Leopard disk, so start here:
• Launch Installer and begin installation.
• Select installation option
• Choose to Customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer drivers.
Optional: Check box to install X11 (Tiger and later) BSD Subsystems (Panther & earlier).
• Proceed with installation.
• After installation computer will restart for setup. During the setup you will be offered an option to migrate your stuff from backup using Setup/Migration Asistant. Unless you want to do it manually, this is where you migrate.
• After setup, reboot computer.
• Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
• Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
• Select First Aid in main panel.
• Click Repair Disk Permissions.
• Connect to Internet.
• Download and install Mac OS X 10.5.8 Combo Update
Computer will restart.
• Repair Disk Permissions as previously.
• Go to Apple Menu > Software Update.
• Install all updates.
Computer may restart after updates.
• Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
• Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
• Select First Aid in main panel.
• Click Repair Disk Permissions.
cornelius

Mail lost when upgrading to Tiger - help!

We finally upgraded to Tiger 9from an earlier version of OS X. When we opened mail, we were prompted to import messages. But only the most recent messages appear in the new mailbox -- we've lost thousands of e-mails!
How can we recover the lost e-mails and import them into the mail program in Tiger?
Thanks!

The conversion from Mail 1.x to Mail 2.x is broken. Take a look at the following thread to better understand the problem:
Help! "You need to take this account online in order to download it."
More specifically, if this is a POP account, the following procedure should allow you to fix the Inbox problem. A similar procedure should allow you to fix other mailboxes that might also be affected:
1. Quit Mail if it’s running.
2. Make a backup copy of the ~/Library/Mail folder, just in case something goes wrong while trying to fix the problem. You can do this in the Finder by dragging the folder to the Desktop while holding the Option (Alt) key down, for example. This is where all your mail is stored.
3. Create a new folder on the Desktop and name it however you wish (e.g. Inbox Old). It doesn’t need to have an .mbox extension.
4. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/.
5. Move the files mbox and Incoming_Mail out of INBOX.mbox, into the Inbox Old folder just created on the Desktop. These files contain all the messages that were in the mailbox before the upgrade to Tiger, and maybe even some messages that had been deleted. mbox is the most important. Incoming_Mail may or may not be present.
6. Move any strangely-named Messages-T0x... folders to the Desktop (not into the Inbox Old folder). These folders are to be deleted after fixing the problem. They are temporary folders created during an import or an indexing process, and Mail should have deleted them when done. Their presence is a clear indication that something didn’t work as expected. If you’ve been using Mail after the conversion and have already tried to fix the problem by rebuilding the mailbox or something like that, they might contain messages that are neither in Messages proper nor in the mbox file, so keep them around until the problem is fixed.
7. Move everything else within INBOX.mbox, except the Messages folder, to the Trash.
The result of the above should be that INBOX.mbox contains the proper Messages folder only, and the Inbox Old folder on the Desktop contains the mbox and Incoming_Mail (if it exists) files only. Now, proceed as follows:
8. Open Mail.
9. The account’s Inbox should properly display in Mail as many messages as *.emlx files are in ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/Messages/. If that’s not the case, select the mailbox in Mail and do Mailbox > Rebuild.
10. In Mail, do File > Import Mailboxes, choose Other as the data format, and follow the instructions to import the Inbox Old folder that’s on the Desktop.
As a result of doing the above, some messages may be duplicated now. Andreas Amann’s Mail Scripts has a Remove Duplicates script that you may find useful.
Do with the imported mail whatever you wish. You may move the messages anywhere you want and get rid of the imported mailboxes afterwards.
If all is well and you don’t miss anything, the files on the Desktop can be deleted, although you may want to keep them for a while, just in case.
Take a look at the following article (also referenced in the thread I mentioned at the beginning of this post) to learn what you might have done before upgrading to minimize the risk of this happening, and what you may do after fixing the problem to avoid similar issues from happening in the future. DON’T do now what the article suggests, though, as that would make things worse in the current situation:
Overstuffed mailbox is unexpectedly empty
Ask for any clarifications or if you need further assistance.
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user’s home folder, i.e. ~/Library is the Library folder within the user’s home folder.

Lost messages after upgrade to Tiger

After upgrading to Tiger I seem to have lost the messages in my main Inbox that were sent to my main email address. All the other mailboxes where I filtered mail to seem intact.
I backed up data to a separate firewire drive before I installed the new OS, including the Mail folder in Library... I can see the other mailboxes, but have not been able to locate the main Inbox or find and import the mail that is missing. Did Panther store it somewhere else??
I've looked at your support topics, but I'm still baffled.
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

The conversion from Mail 1.x to Mail 2.x is broken. Take a look at the following thread to better understand the problem:
Help! "You need to take this account online in order to download it."
In particular, you may want to take a look at the following article (also referenced in that thread) to learn what you might have done before upgrading to minimize the risk of this happening, and what you may do after fixing the problem to avoid similar issues from happening in the future. DON’T do now what the article suggests, though, as that would make things worse in the current situation:
Overstuffed mailbox is unexpectedly empty
More specifically, if this is a POP account, the following procedure should allow you to fix the Inbox problems:
1. Quit Mail.
2. Make a backup copy of the ~/Library/Mail folder, just in case something goes wrong while trying to fix the problem. You can do this in the Finder by dragging the folder to the Desktop while holding the Option (Alt) key down, for example. This is where all your mail is stored.
3. Create a new folder on the Desktop and name it however you wish (e.g. Inbox Old). It doesn’t need to have an .mbox extension.
4. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/.
5. Move the files mbox and Incoming_Mail out of INBOX.mbox, into the Inbox Old folder just created on the Desktop. These files contain all the messages that were in the mailbox before the upgrade to Tiger, and maybe even some messages that had been deleted. mbox is the most important. Incoming_Mail may or may not be present.
6. Move any strangely-named Messages-XXXXXX folder to the Desktop (not into the Inbox Old folder). These folders are to be deleted after fixing the problem. They are temporary folders created during an import or an indexing process, and Mail should have deleted them when done. Their presence is a clear indication that something didn’t work as expected. If you’ve been using Mail after the conversion and have already tried to fix the problem by rebuilding the mailbox or something like that, they might contain messages that are neither in Messages proper nor in the mbox file, so keep them around until the problem is fixed.
7. Move everything else within INBOX.mbox, except the Messages folder, to the Trash.
The result of the above should be that INBOX.mbox contains the proper Messages folder only, and the Inbox Old folder on the Desktop contains the mbox and Incoming_Mail (if it exists) files only. Now, proceed as follows:
8. Open Mail.
9. The account’s Inbox should properly display in Mail as many messages as *.emlx files are in ~/Library/Mail/POP-username@mailserver/INBOX.mbox/Messages/. If that’s not the case, select the mailbox in Mail and do Mailbox > Rebuild.
10. In Mail, do File > Import Mailboxes, choose Other as the data format, and follow the instructions to import the Inbox Old folder that’s on the Desktop. Do with the imported mail whatever you wish. You may move to the account’s Inbox the messages that Mail failed to convert properly, and delete those that did get through and, hence, are duplicates now.
The following collection of AppleScripts has a Remove Duplicates script that can be useful for removing duplicate messages:
http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html
If all is well and you’re not missing anything, the files on the Desktop can be deleted, although you may want to keep them for a while, just in case.
Ask for any clarifications or if you need further assistance.
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user’s home folder, i.e. ~/Library is the Library folder within the user’s home folder.

Buying refurb eMac, and need to upgrade to Tiger.. Help!

So, my friend is looking to buy her first Mac, and I'm trying to help her with all the details. Unfortunately, the eMac is loaded with 10.3. She'd preobably be okay with this, as she's just gonna be surfing the net, and emailing. Nothing big. But I'd love for her to have the best she can get.
So.. How much will it cost for her to upgrade to Tiger, first off? And secondly, was iLife only included as a pack-in, on Tiger?
Thanks so much.
Justin Cash

Hi Justin,
If she is only going to be surfing & emailing 10.3 will work for her admirably. Panther is a good stable OS which many thousands of people are still using. Just make sure that she has the latest version installed by running Software Update. 10.3.9 is the latest version.
According to Apple's Specifications some eMacs came with the version of iLife that was current at the time, some apparently didn't, but it certainly wasn't a Tiger only inclusion.
If you really want her to have Tiger and the latest iLife then Baltwo has given you the relevant info. iLife 06 is the latest version and will work with Panther or Tiger.
Adrian

Upgraded to Tiger - Inbox is gone!

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