Upgrading 10.2.8 to Tiger on eMac

My sons have an eMac. It still has OS 10.2.8 on it. back in 2005, I tried to install Tiger upgrade onto it. We gave up then and they've been using OS X 10.2.8 since. Today, I decided I wanted to conquer this problem and upgrade it to Tiger, finally.
The problem with the eMac OS X install:
1. I insert the Mac OS X install disc, and double click the install Mac OS X icon, then click Restart. The installer is supposed to open here, but it does not.
2. eMac tries to restart, going to gray screen with apple icon, then blue screen. It never gets past the blue screen and stays "frozen" on blue for hours.
I've tried the above multiple times in the past and recently today. The mac guru at the apple store didn't offer much suggestion. Today I used Disk Utility and repaired the permissions. The same problem still exists.
Any suggestions?
Mark
700 Power Mac G4 Mac OS X (10.2.x)

The problem may be that those machines do not have the optical drive that reads DVD. They are CD ROM's. You might be able to perform the install, using another PPC (non-Intel) machine, this way:
Note: Tiger must be on a retail black DVD version
1. Launch the Host machine (must have firewire, and start with the Tiger DVD).
2. Connect one, or both eMacs, with firewire cables.
3. Start the eMacs, holding down the "T" key. They should appear on the Desktoop of the Host.
4. Start the Tiger install process
5. When you get to where you select the volume, pick one of the eMacs.

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fenderltd wrote:
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Message was edited by: nerowolfe
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