Upgrading APU for Lenovo N586 Model#75840

I am thinking of upgrading the APU for this laptop with AMD A10-4600m or AMD A10-5750M. I am wondering if these 2 APU are compatible with my Lenovo. Also if there is anything else I need to change in order to get it working. Do I need to change the ram as well or can I keep the old ram. Currently I believe it comes with 4GB DDR3 SDRAM. Also can anyone tell me if I am using Windows 7 32 bit, what is the max ram I can install after upgrading my APU. And is this laptop comes with dedicated graphic card or integrated with the CPU? Thanks.

hi jolax,
Looking at this pdf data sheet, the Lenovo N586 can accommodate the following:
Processor:
AMD Comal Quad-core A8-4500M Processor
AMD Comal Dual-core A6-4400M Processor
Video Graphics:
AMD RadeonTM HD 7640G Integrated graphic (built-in to the processor)
Memory:
Up to 16GB DDR3 – 1600/1333Mhz memory
[2 SODIMM slots (1x2GB/2x2GB/1x4GB/1x2GB+1x4GB/2x4GB)]
I recommend changing only the component that is specified on this data sheet as the motherboard's BIOS may not support other components that's not on the list.
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Windows 7 Upgrade Guide for dv6000/dv9000 models

Statement:
You are using this guide at your own risk. I don't take any responsibility for any problems.
Things which you should know and do before upgrade:
   1. HP may demand you to reinstall back Vista if you will have any hardware problems to troubleshoot them.
     2. HP will not help you if you will have any software problems because this models are not officially supported
          with Windows 7.
     3. Before you will upgrade to Windows 7 please make Vista Recovery CD/DVD. How to do it all informations here.
     4. All Vista drivers and pre-installed software by HP for your model are in C:\swsetup folder.
      If you still have it on your HDD then copy this folder to CD/DVD. You may need them someday.
   5. Users with nVidia graphic card should check temperature of this device before upgrade.
        This way you will know is it working ok in Windows 7 too.
         How you may check your notebook CPU (processor), GPU (graphic card), motherboard or HDD temperature?
         To do that use HWMonitor (free and recommended) or Aida64.
How to find out which model you've got and specifications for it:
      1. Click on Support & Drivers link. (Upper part of this page.)
      2. In search box type your laptop product number (p/n).
          Resource:
          How to Locate the Notebook p/n
      3. Under notebook picture you will find your notebook model name (example: HP Pavilion dv6205eu Notebook PC).
      4. On the same page click on Product Information -> Product Specifications and you will find all informations about
           your notebook hardaware.
How to install Windows 7 and what you should know while upgrading:
      1. Guide: How to Do a Clean Installation with Windows 7
      2. All Windows 7 drivers you will find in next post below.
      3. Some drivers have comment then they are originaly made for Vista system.
      When normal installation will fail, then try to run unsuccessfully installed file in Compatibility Mode (Windows Vista,
          Windows Vista Service Pack 1 and Windows Vista Service Pack 2).
          Resources:
          Make older programs run in this version of Windows
          How to Run a Program in Compatibility Mode in Windows 7
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CHIPSET DRIVERS
Solution on COPROCESSOR with yellow exclamation mark ()
If you have Intel processor:
Intel Chipset (Install and reboot before other drivers) here (ver 9.1.1.1025 for 32/64 bit Win7)
Intel Rapid Storage Technology here (ver 10.1.2.1004 for 32/64 bit Win7)
If you have AMD processor:
For dv60xx, dv61xx, dv62xx, dv63xx, dv64xx, dv90xx, dv91xx, dv92xx, dv93xx and dv94xx models (example: dv6367am means that your model is dvx3xx, dv9421xw means that your model is dv94xx):
nVidia Chipset (Install and reboot before other drivers) here (Vista)
For dv65xx, dv66xx, dv67xx, dv68xx, dv69xx, dv95xx, dv96xx, dv97xx, dv98xx and dv99xx models (example: dv6981tu means that your model is dv69xx, dv9721tu means that your model is dv97xx):
nVidia Chipset (Install and reboot before other drivers) here   (Vista)
Important information for users with nVidia chipset!
If you have 4GB of RAM or more then check Microsoft knowledge base article about solution on some problems which you may have here.
GRAPHIC DRIVERS
Intel Graphic:
    Intel 950 and Intel X3100 here (ver 15.12.75.4.1930 for Win7 32 bit) or here (ver 15.12.75.4.1930 for Win7 64 bit)
nVidia Graphic:
Important information!
   If you have installed any nVidia drivers for graphic card then before you will install other version you will
   need to remove old drivers first. Check below guide how to do it (this is not standard uninstallation
   process):
   How to remove nVidia graphic drivers from Windows system.
   Drivers:
    nVidia GeForce 8400M GS and nVidia GeForce 8600M GS:
         OPTION 1
   Version 267.76 here for Windows 7 32 bit or here for Windows 7 64 bit.
         OPTION 2
         Version 197.16 here for Windows 7 32 bit or here for Windows 7 64 bit.
         Note:
         Remember to uninstall previous graphic card driver first.
    nVidia GeForce GO 6150M, 7150M, 7200M, 7400M or 7600M:
          OPTION 1
        First try to install original Vista drivers for your model.
          Resource:
          How to find all Vista audio and graphic drivers for specific model on HP sites?
           OPTION 2
     If original drivers will not work then try modded drivers ver 195.81.
        Note:
        Remember to uninstall previous graphic card driver first.
How to install them under Windows 7?
   1. Download driver here (for Win7 32 bit) or here (for Win7 64 bit) double click and select extract,
   2. Download from this site with drivers also INF Modified and replace original INF in extracted folder,
   3. Install & reboot.
     OPTION 3
           Last thing which you may do is installing graphic driver from Windows Update.
        Note:
        Remember to uninstall previous graphic card driver first.
     1.Open Windows Update by clicking the Start button , clicking ' All Programs ', and then clicking '
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AUDIO DRIVERS
Conexant HD Audio
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         Resource:
         How to find all Vista audio and graphic drivers for specific model on HP sites?
Realtek HD Audio
     Use original Vista drivers for your model.
         Resource:
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MODEM DRIVERS
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Motorola SM56 Modemhere (ver6.12.6.0 A)   (Vista) - If you have Realtek audio card
HP QUICK PLAY
HP QuickPlay here (ver 3.7 v.6112 for 32/64 bit Win7)
Notes:
It must be installed before HP Quick Launch Buttons.
You've installed this software and it hangs while using?
      Uninstall your current HP QUICK PLAY version and install this which you had in Vista.
      Resource:
      Uninstalling Software in Windows 7
      Uninstall or change a program in Windows 7
      If you burned CD/DVD with C:\swsetup folder as suggested in guide then you will find it there.
HP Quick Launch Buttons
Solution onKEYBOARD FILTER with yellow exclamation mark ()
HP Quick Launch Buttons here (ver 6.50.13.1 for 32/64 bit Win7)
WIRELESS DRIVERS
Intel Wireless here (ver 13.0.0.107 for 32/64 bit Win7)
Broadcom Wireless here (ver 5.60.48.35 for 32/64 bit Win7)
Atheros Wireless here (ver 8.0.0.316 for 32/64 bit Win7)
HP Wireless Assistant here (ver 3.50.12.1 for 32/64 bit Win7)
Bluetooth Wireless here (ver 6.5.0.2000 for 32/64 bit Win7) Only for models with Bluetooth.
Note:
How to install Bluetooth driver?
Check the link below:
How to install HP Bluetooth driver in Windows 7.
ETHERNET DRIVERS
Realtek RTL8101 Lan here (for 32/64 bit Win7) Only for models with Intel processor.
Models with AMD processors don't need to install any extra file for ethernet., because drivers for it are in chipset package.
CARD READER
Solution on BASE SYSTEM DEVICE with yellow exclamation mark ()
Ricoh 5-1 Card Reader Driver here (ver 6.10.01.03 for 32/64 bit Win7)
TOUCHPAD DRIVER
Synaptics TouchPad here (ver 16.0.1.0 for 32/64 bit Win7)
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ONLY IF YOUR MODEL HAS: WEBCAM
Cyberlink YouCam here (ver 2.0.3115 for 32/64 bit Win7)
Note:
If you have any problem with your webcam then check below links to HP documents:
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Testing a Webcam using Your Favorite Instant Messenger
3VRX (optional software)
on-screen visuals and associated sounds that are displayed and heard when adjusting volume
3VRX here (ver 2.5 for 32/64 bit Win7)
Note:
Here is YouTube video which shows what can be done with this software.
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     How to uninstall AuthenTec fingerprint software and driver
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       AuthenTec TrueSuite, AuthenTec fingerprint and Windows 7
     DigitalPersona Personal, AuthenTec fingerprint and Windows 7
ONLY IF YOUR MODEL HAS: DVD DRIVE WITH LIGHTSCRIBE
How can you check is your DVD drive with Lightscribe?
On DVD panel there will be Lightscribe logo.
LightScribe Host Software here (ver 1.18.22.2 for 32/64 bit Win7)
Report of the changes which were made in the guide
Edited 16-01-2010 Updated Synaptics TouchPad driver to ver 14.0.3.1, Updated Broadcom driver to ver 5.60.18.41
Edited 18-01-2010 Updated nVidia Graphic section. Added drivers for nVidia GeForce 8400M GS and nVidia GeForce 8600M GS (ver 195.62)
Edited 19-01-2010 Updated LightScribe Host Software to ver 1.18.10.2
Edited 05-02-2010 Updated fingerprint drivers, software and added fingerprint guides.
Edited 27-02-2010 Updated LightScribe Host Software to ver 1.18.11.1
Edited 03-03-2010 Updated HP Quick Launch Buttons to ver 6.50.13.1
Edited 20-03-2010 Updated Synaptics TouchPad to ver 15.0.9.0 (this version enables multitouch gestures)
Edited 21-03-2010 Added two guides. How to remove nVidia graphic drivers from Windows system and How to install HP Bluetooth driver in
                                Windows 7.
Edited 25-03-2010 Updated LightScribe Host Software to ver 1.18.12.1
Edited 26-03-2010 Changed Intel Matrix Storage Manager name to Intel Rapid Storage Technology, added Intel Rapid Storage Technology
                                to ver 9.6.0.1014
Edited 31-03-2010 Updated nVidia Graphic section with uninstallation guide, Updated drivers for nVidia GeForce 8400M GS and 8600M GS
                                to ver 197.16
Edited 10-04-2010 Updated LightScribe Host Software to ver 1.18.13.1
Edited 04-05-2010 Updated LightScribe Host Software to ver 1.18.14.1
Edited 05-05-2010 Updated Synaptics TouchPad driver to ver 15.0.13.0, Updated HP QuickPlay to ver 3.7 v.6112
Edited 21-05-2010 Updated Bradcom wireless to ver 5.60.48.35, Updated Atheros wireless to ver 8.0.0.316, Updated Synaptics touchpad
                                to ver 15.0.13.3
Edited 24-05-2010 Updated HP Wireless Assistant to ver 3.50.11.2
Edited 24-06-2010 Updated Synaptics TouchPad to ver 15.0.17.4
Edited 30-07-2010 Updated Broadcom wireless - the same version but with some improvements, Updated HP Wireless Assistant to ver 3.50.12.1
Edited 01-04-2011 Added drivers for nVidia GeForce 8400M GS and nVidia GeForce 8600M GS (ver 267.76)
Edited 02-04-2011 Updated LightScribe Host Software to ver 1.18.22.2, Added one guide: How to change Two - Finger Scrolling on One - Finger
                                Scrolling in Synaptics TouchPad software.
Edited 14-12-2011 Updated driver for Intel® Rapid Storage Technology
Edited 07-05-2012 Updated driver for HP Bluetooth to ver 6.5.0.2000, Synaptics TouchPad driver to ver 16.0.1.0, Updated guide: How to install
                                HP Bluetooth driver in Windows 7
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Dear all,
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Hi everyone..this is my first post here on the forum..and i need some help..
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Hey Man,
I actually looked into your question since it was my question too. Firstly, I'm an A+ Technician with exactly 20 years of experience in the field - that and a cup of tea will get you a cheap geek date at best.
In regards to the BIOS, on the N586 system, there is no new release of the BIOS (guess they consider it perfect and not needed.)
Stated, that particular motherboard works best with either a A6-4400M Dual Core or a A8-4500M Quadcore. There are some slight upgrade benefits to the A8-4500M, but from the looks of it, the benefits are negligible considering the quadcore runs at 1.9 Ghz over the dual core's 2.7. However, some folks really like the quadcore for gaming and 3D modeling. A guy was even running Assassin's Creed on his N586 with the A8-4500M chip.
Some folks are also recommending the a10-4600m as a possible alternative to either - and it also works with that motherboard from what I gather. Someone sold a n586 with that particular processor on eBay recently.
Still, my understanding from what I read is that the A8-5550M may not work without changing out the motherboard or cooling system - but I truly don't know for sure. People 'say' it can be done, along with the A8-5750M, but I've not seen any examples in the wild. Hoping someone out there can prove that wrong though - would be nice to see.
You can check out the chip tests here:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-A8-4500M-vs-AMD-A6-4400M
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-A8-4500M-vs-AMD-A10-4600M
http://cpuboss.com/cpu/AMD-A10-4600M
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-A8-4500M-vs-AMD-A6-4400M

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Hi athensguy,
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1029rjmenvy17t wrote:
Hi! Sorry To Say No You Can Not Upgrade The GPU In A NotebookHowever If You Are Trying To Upgrade The Intel HD Graphics? Then It Can Be Done By Putting A Bigger Processor In There What is this? Saying no then yes? You can't upgrade a laptop with onboard video by upgrade the processor? Consumer Laptop video comes "AS IS" not upgrades that only comes with board swap with a higher graphics chipset if available for that particular model. What info are you getting this from? This line of statement is total confusion to the Poster. Stop making double talk that contradicates itself here.

No Standalone Upgrade Pathway For CS6 Apps

As many of you who are regular in the forums know, I am a supporter and early adopter of Creative Cloud.
However as few you are ready to admit, I'm not a blind sheep drinking the red Adobe Koolaid...
There are in fact glaring flaws in Adobe Creative Cloud, both in terms of the business model and some the Applications methods.
One of these is the overall upgrade pathway which has changed dramatically...
On top of limiting the Upgrade Pathway to 2 versions back (CS5 and 5.5), Standalone products have been elimintated from the upgrade pathway.
As many of you know the standalone upgrade pathway has been a beneift Adobe has provided since CS was first introduced over 10 years ago.
Now only Bundle users of these previouis versions can upgrade. Anyone else has to buy new Bundles outright meaning that their older standalone license provides no addtional value or upgrade opportunity/savings as it had in the past.
I pesronally don't understand this from a business point of view as announcing this change and allowing 6 months before closing the standalone upgrade would have been financially beneficial. See unlike most people who are complaining about Creative Cloud subscription model, I don't believe Adobe is doing it to "rake in the cash" or because its a "scam".
If that were true, announcing the upgrade pathway for Standalone products would be ending and putting a countdown clock would have made them huge revenue as I anticipate the following would have taken place:
Standalone users of Products like InDesign, Illustrator, After Effects and Flash, would have upgraded to Design Standard, Design Premium, Production Premium or Web Premium to get the most out of their Standalone product in terms of savings without moving to Creative Cloud, and to be able to leverage those other products without moving from the box model if they plan to expand their business in the future.
Studios and Agencies with older individual boxed products would have upgraded to take advantage of savings and still be able to stay out of Creative Cloud.
Freelancers using any one of the three "Trinity Products" (Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator) would have upgrade for the $500 difference as this is less than a year of Creative Cloud and would allow them to keep a box product if they plan expanding their services within the scope of the Trinity.
While I don't appreciate this as I was looking at getting some value and savings out of some old standalone products I have on various machines throughout the years, it tells me for certain that there is more to this than money (which I realized early and have been trying to point out).
It may be a STRONG ARM and forceful tactic, but Adobe is trying to move as many people as possible on to a SINGLE CODE BASE and they anticipate they will be able to do it within 3-5 years using their current aggressive strategy.
Why some of you may not care, those of you who are either into technology, do alot of collaboration or are intruiged by some Adobe's business decisions will want to read on about what I'm seeing here.
Those of you who have ever had to manage a large website without the benefit of a CMS know that when you have to update something "minor" it can have major implecations. Especially if certain indivual pages or functionality were "inherited" from how someone else coded the site before you and changing too many things to be more efficient would require a complete tear down and overall. Adobe CC was that tear down and overall as they scrapped much of the legacy code that was still around in CS6 (which also had huge coding overhauls). For example, there was a lot of junk code in the Mac version of InDesign even in CS6 and they upgraded that product to a 64bit version, which is a huge deal when you are doing 1000 page technical manuals in InDesign...
Now imagine that you have to manage maintaining for all OS versions for the forseeable future all 12 of the main Applications in versions CS3- CS6 and CC that is over 70 Applications to maintain the codebase for. Imagine being told you have to maintain that many websites, all with their own indiviudal logic, quirks and standards with huge gaps of inconsistency in between.
Now imagine you could make the decision to only have to maintain 24 and eventually just 12...
Now if your in video production or print production, imagine you never have to export or package your files to accomodate for the fact you and someone else may be on a different Adobe version.
Now you can see why these tactics are being enforced even though in the short term they actually cost Adobe money and potentially even customers. Its a long end game based in the logistics of support, management and reallocating those resources to moving forward and eventually only ever building around a singular code base. Instead of Adobe dividing resources and attention across the legacy products everything will laser focused on maintaining what I refer to as "Adobe Solid (CS6-CC)" vs "Adobe Legacy (CS1-CS5.5)". Even just supporting "Modern Adobe (CS3-CS5.5)" would be (and has been) very labor intensive.
Microsoft made a similar attempt to reduce their burden by abandoning support of all Windows versions prior to Vista.
When you detach from the emotional sense of shock, betrayal or what have you and put yourself in the position of making a productivity based decision that reduces your own overhead and cost, its hard not understand where Adobe is coming from here. In their situation I think most of us would make the same choices. Companies who make decisions based on customer reactions, shock value etc. instead of figuring out what is and is not sustainable.
Also if you look at the long term in 3-5 years most Adobe users will be on either CS6 or CC. Eventually Adobe will not support CS6 on new operating systems which means 5-8 years from now we can expect the majority of Adobe users will be on Creative Cloud, consolidating the ecosystem ( a very Apple like idea actually). Eliminating several problems in terms of compatibility within the Creative Services Industry and reducing Adobe's burden in managing Adobe Legacy and thus internal cost, which will ideally translate eventually to reduced cost to customers or added value to the Creative Cloud product library.
I can be optimistic in this way because of Adobe's track record in adding value and services, discounts etc in the past, and the fact they have not raised rates. Since CS was introduced over 10 years ago if anything the rates have gotten cheaper even while the software continues to improve. For all of what Photoshop did for the price 10 years ago, the price today is the same and its is so much more than a mere image editing progam, now capable of Video, Animation/Motion Graphics, 3D modeling, Some Web Design, it really is the swiss army knife of the Creative Services Industry.
So am I annoyed at the Upgrade pathway being narrowed down to nothing. Absolutely. Do I think it was done purely for greed. No. It doesn't make sense, I would literally be trying to give me money and they are not giving me a way to do it, because they aggressively are on a path that is about a larger goal than taking that money from me today. Do I feel alienated, yes on the surface. Do I still understand and support the decision, Absolutely.
When something is the right choice, its the right choice, regardless of whether it is right for you. I can't argue with practicallity even when I'm screwed by it, so all I can do is try to be on the right side of it, and get over it when I'm not. It's not something I recommend taking personally.
There were people who couldn't appreciate this when the transition from film to digital was taking place. Where are they now. The times they are a changing.

I have to respectfully disagree with you.... Adobe has changed to a company all about profit. For me profit is not a dirty word. we all need it to stay in business...
However... I purchased my CS6 collection completely online... I can update it when I choose... and I own it... last year we had the choice to own or rent..
I chose to own.... I dont begrudge the renters I merely want choice... Adobe removed choice because it realized it could turn us into digital addicts... stop renting
and yes your files dont vanish but you cant use them... .... dont confuse software evolution with monopolisation and Digital Racketeering. ..Adobe made almost a Billion
dollar NET profit last year...I think they deserved it... but gouging users is not the way to go....
The answer I normally get here is well stay on CS6... and I will..... the out pouring of hate with the cloud is because so many users actually love adobe products.. I know
I do... There will be a gap in the market for about two years as other companies replace Adobes products... but it will happen.. I like many others will wait it out...
For me the ones I feel sorry for are Adobe employees who are left with the fallout of this horrendous decisicion... I salute you from afar....

GeForce 7300 GT Upgrade Kit for Mac Pro?? G5?

Hi,
Just found this on the apple store:
http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=1643C421&nplm=M A567
"NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT Graphics Upgrade Kit for Mac Pro"
Why is it only for mac pro? its PCI express & my g5 is one of the late 2005 models and it has PCI Express so am i wrong in thinking that this should work fine or is it something to do with the new intel architecture?
If i remember correctly i could have chosen this card or a very similar one when i configured my G5.
Thanks

That card is only for the Mac Pro, as it says.
When you ordered your G5, you had the choice of the nVidia 6600 (or 6600LE), nVidia 7800GT, or the Quadro FX 4500.
The 7800GT that you could have ordered with your G5 is close in performance to the ATi X1900XT that is an option on the Mac Pro. The 7300GT that you're looking at is an entry level card, which the 7800GT definitely is not.
The 7300GT and the X1900XT are both Mac Pro only due to the ROM on the card, which is designed to work with the EFI booting hardware that the Mac Pro uses. The G5s used Open Firmware, which requires a different ROM on the video card. So, even though both your G5 and the Mac Pro are PCI-Express based, these video cards are not compatible.
Now, most PCI-Express cards that you look at for, say, external SATA, will probably work in both the G5 and the Mac Pro. You'd still want to check the specs to be sure, however.
If you're looking for a new video card to replace your (presumably) nVidia 6600, your only real option is the ATi X1900 G5 edition. This is a different card than the X1900XT that's offered for the Mac Pro.

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