Upgrading BPS solution to Integrated Planning

Hi all,
We are at the moment upgrading a web solution for profit center planning from BPS to Integrated Planning.
In that context we have two issues:
1) In BPS we used a user specific variables to specify which profit centers the users had access to. This solution worked well, and it was easy to maintain with the upload functionality specified in one of the "How to .. documents".
Does anyone have an idea about how we can get the functionality above in IP ?
2) In BPS we implemented the document "how to display all comments for a planning package". This functionality we used to get an overview of all the comments created during planning.
Does anyone know how to get a similar functionality in IP ? In this context it is important that we are also able to make a nice print of the documents.
Hope to hear from you.
Kind regards,
Mikkel

Hello Mikkel,
1) User specific variables are replaced by personalization of variables in BI-IP.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/01/42c73c13b0ce5be10000000a114084/frameset.htm
2) Documents can be displayed using standard functionality:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/45/e65c54f83356dde10000000a114a6b/frameset.htm
Regards,
Marc
SAP NetWeaver RIG

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