Upgrading Graphics Card and Processor

I'm wanting to upgrade my graphics card and processor. Now I don't play many games, but I would like to max out LOTRO and maybe some games on steam like portal/doom3/etc...
My motherboard is an
Manufacturer: Foxconn H-RS880-uATX
HP: Aloe-GL8E
I've already decided I'm upgrading my processor to the Phenom II X4-830. Right now I have the AMD Athlong dual core 3.0ghz.
And I'm upgrading my RAM from 4GB to 8GB this week.
The only thing I'm having a hard time finding is what the best graphics card I can get for my motherboard. I've checked all the FPS benchmarks for the ones HP recommends, but they don't seem better than what I have now which is the ATI Radeon HD 5450 512MB.

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I'm wanting to upgrade my graphics card and processor. Now I don't play many games, but I would like to max out LOTRO and maybe some games on steam like portal/doom3/etc...
My motherboard is an
Manufacturer: Foxconn H-RS880-uATX
HP: Aloe-GL8E
I've already decided I'm upgrading my processor to the Phenom II X4-830. Right now I have the AMD Athlong dual core 3.0ghz.
And I'm upgrading my RAM from 4GB to 8GB this week.
The only thing I'm having a hard time finding is what the best graphics card I can get for my motherboard. I've checked all the FPS benchmarks for the ones HP recommends, but they don't seem better than what I have now which is the ATI Radeon HD 5450 512MB.
Please identify your HP desktop with its product name. Is it a Pavilion p6230y desktop?
In the HD 5000 series  the 5750 is definitely better than a HD5450. 
The HD6850 would definitely do the trick, but you would also have to upgrade your PSU to something beefier.
The Phenom II X4-830 will have to be a Deneb core for it to work with your motherboard.
If your operating system is a 64-bit one then upgrading RAM to 8GB  will be worthwhile.
If the OS is 32-bit then you will be wasting your hard-earned money since the OS was designed to use only @3.25 GB of RAM.
Kind regards,
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