Upgrading harddrive and using Carbon Copy Cloner

Hi I'm planning to replace my internal harddrive on my old MacBook Pro (August 2007) running Leopard with the following harddrive:
Seagate Momentus 7200.4 ST9500420ASG - Hard drive - 500 GB - internal - 2.5" - SATA-300 - 7200 rpm - buffer: 16 MB
Is it fully compatible? Also, this ST9500420AS "G" model is said to have its own G-Force sensor. How does it all work out with MacBook Pro's sudden motion sensor?
Finally, if I use Carbon Copy Cloner to clone my old harddrive onto my new harddrive, how can I solve the problem of the "etc", "tmp" and "var" recurring folder problem without the use of the Mac OS X Installation Disc (since I've lost it)?
Thanks very much.
P.S.: Anything else special that I need to take note of when using Carbon Copy Cloner?

The Random Sniper wrote:
Thanks very much. So it is recommended that I should rather for the ST9500420AS non-"G" model for my MacBook Pro to avoid conflict with the existing Sudden Motion Sensor?
If you want to stay with a Seagate, yes.
However, I've also heard that Apple has released a firmware in the past to deal with the G-Force sensor / SMS conflict issue for the MacBook Pro (while nVidia didn't)? Is that true?
Which firmware update are you referring to?
On the other hand, would Western Digital Scorpio Blue's WD5000BEVT be a good alternative? I have heard that although it is only 5400rpm, it's performance is as good as 7200rpm harddrives.
Take a look at a site which has reviews, such as newegg, tomshardware, xlr8yourmac.com. In my mind, Seagates seem to have gone downhill and quite a few people have posted here with compatibility issues.The WD 640GB also seems to have more than its fair share of problems, although I don't believe the 500 shares those issues. After reviewing tests at tomshardware, I chose a 7200 Hitachi 500GB, which was at or near the top in nearly all categories, and has very good user reviews at newegg. I've yet to choose a 2.5" SATA external enclosure (with the number of enclosures around the house, it's hard to believe I don't have one yet, but I guess not), so have not run it yet.

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Thanks for replying!
I've done it several times. The only thing that I'm
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and you know that its clean and uncorrupted.
Nothing is corupted now, that I know of. That isn't really the problem.
But you
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have a problem with it.
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