Upgrading OES2sp2/SLES10sp3.. done at the same time how?

I was reading through the inst-oes-lnx.pdf doc (for OES2sp3) to upgrade our OES2sp2 server, and section 5.2.2 clearly states, "You must upgrade SLES 10 and OES 2 at the same time". This line is confusing me badly.
The problem is, following along the online(rug) upgrade section (Section 5.4.5), I see it says only to download the move-to-oes2-sp3 patch, after which there are more rug commands, some configuring, and at least one reboot. It doesn't explicitly say anything about a move-to-sles10-sp4 patch (except that it cannot be used to upgrrade OES2 SP3) until Section 7.4.1, Updating the Server Base form SLES 10SP3 to SLES10 SP4.
So... they're done sequentially, OES, then SLES? Or am I off here? That would mean for a time, the server is running as OES2sp3/SLES10sp3. That doesn't seem to meet the "same time" requirement.
But if they are to be done simultaneously, which is what "same time" means to me, then I'm at a loss.
Does the move-to-oes2-sp3 patch automatically add the move-to-sles10-sp4 patch? That seems to be hinted at by line 5 of Section 5.4.5 Performing the Upgrade: " Install the recommended patches that are in the channels using rug up -t patch -g recommended && rug ping -a." (But why then have Section 7.4.1?)
I don't have the luxury of development or test servers to play around on, being tight budgeted, our servers are in production- I have to get this right.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by smflood
lpphiggp wrote:
> I was reading through the inst-oes-lnx.pdf doc (for OES2sp3) to upgrade
> our OES2sp2 server, and section 5.2.2 clearly states, "You must upgrade
> SLES 10 and OES 2 -at the same time-". This line is confusing me
> badly.
>
> The problem is, following along the online(rug) upgrade section
> (Section 5.4.5), I see it says only to download the -move-to-oes2-sp3-
> patch, after which there are more rug commands, some configuring, and at
> least one reboot. It doesn't explicitly say anything about a
> -move-to-sles10-sp4- patch (except that it cannot be used to upgrrade
> OES2 SP3) until Section 7.4.1, Updating the Server Base form SLES 10SP3
> to SLES10 SP4.
>
> So... they're done sequentially, OES, then SLES? Or am I off here? That
> would mean for a time, the server is running as OES2sp3/SLES10sp3. That
> doesn't seem to meet the "same time" requirement.
>
> But if they are to be done simultaneously, which is what "same time"
> means to me, then I'm at a loss.
> Does the move-to-oes2-sp3 patch automatically add the
> -move-to-sles10-sp4- patch? That seems to be hinted at by line 5 of
> Section 5.4.5 Performing the Upgrade: " Install the recommended patches
> that are in the channels using rug up -t patch -g recommended && rug
> ping -a." (But why then have Section 7.4.1?)
>
> I don't have the luxury of development or test servers to play around
> on, being tight budgeted, our servers are in production- I have to get
> this right.
The "move-to-oes2-sp3" patch will take care of upgrading the underlying
SLES10 SP3 to SLES10 SP4 at the same time as upgrading OES2 SP2 to OES2
SP3.
Do NOT try applying the "move-to-sles10-sp4" patch on your OES2 server
unless your server is already at OES2 SP3 but on SLES10 SP3 - there was an
oddity with OES2 SP3 where it didn't fit the "OES2 SPn is only supported on
SLES10 SPn+1" rule as was originally supported on SLES10 SP3.
If you're unsure, please post the output from "cat /etc/*release" and we
can advise which patch you need to install.
HTH.
Simon
Novell/SUSE/NetIQ Knowledge Partner
And I strongly suggest making sure you have the ability to do the offline media upgrade in case something goes wrong. We had horrible luck with the online/channel method from OES2 SP2 to OES2 SP3 upgrades getting stuck sometime after the "move to" script executing and not completing.
Never had the media method not work, however.

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