Upgrading OS on G4 mirrored door version

will my hardware/processor sustain an upgrade to tiger OS 10.4, or the new leopard OS 10.5? can i upgrade without fear of the OS being faster/smarter than my system's hardware and causing crashes? or am i stuck with an antiquated OS forever?
anyone...?
anyone...?

As everyone has said, it'll work like a charm. You'll fall in love with Tiger, and look forward to Leopard. have the same G4 as you. I haven't maxed out my RAM due to not have any intense application like Photoshop. Have all 4 interal bays filled with drives for backups, tunes, etc.

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I am considering upgrading my G4 PowerMac Mirror Door mac. Specifically the graphics card in hopes of better performance. I was considering the ATI Radeon 9600 XT or Pro. However, I have noticed that some cards work only in the G5. Anyone have any idea what card, if any, is the fastest, best performing card I can place into this machine? I should mention that currently, I have the stock ATI Radeon 9000 Pro, that came with the machine. The procs are twin 1.25 Ghz Power PC, 1 MB L3 Cache per Proc. 2 GB DDR SDRAM. Thanks in advance for any help on this topic!
PowerMac G4 Mirror Door Mac OS X (10.4.6)
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Hello.
I am running a nearly identical MDD as yours and would highly recommend the 9800 Pro. It supports all there is to offer with Tiger, and is the best card you can buy for your current model.
I've read some problems with the 9600, and the 9800 is considerably faster, of course at a price, but if your looking for the best, there really is no other option.
Good Luck.
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Highest OS upgrade for G4 Mirror door-1.25Mhz?

Hi Mac friends...
Up to what Mac OS can support my old G4 Mirror door-1.25Mhz, 1.25GB ram and 80GB HDD? Is it 10.5.6? Plz help me knowing that.

Welcome,
Part of how well Leopard performs on your MDD depends on whether the video card supports Core Image. Run System Profiler (in Applications > Utilities) and select "Graphics/Displays" from the left-hand pane and your video card info including which video technologies are supported will appear in the main pane.
Sounds like plenty of people are running Leo without Core Image support, so that's not a show-stopper. It would be nice to have.

Power Mac Mirror Door DVI or ADC to SINGLE RCA VIDEO OUT to a TV...adapter?

I have a Mirror Door G4 tower that I would like to use as a media center, with an old(er) Magnavox 19" television that only has the single yellow VIDEO IN jack, and the red and white audio L and R. Is there a converter cable that is similar to the one I used to use with my old G4 Powerbook which took the mini DVI and turned it into either composite video out? (I think it was Mini DVI, maybe ADC, whatever that little square video out on the Powerbook G4). I am prepared for low-res results, mostly just want to look at the itunes window and occasionally view utube clips or DVDs.
Also, does the G4 take the original Airport card (not the extreme), and if so does it need a separate antenna the way some G5s do?
And finally should I get good results with a Bluetooth dongle plugged into a USB port on the rear of the G4 when connecting a white Apple wireless keyboard?
Some of these answers will of course sort themselves out with experimentation, but any tips or experience in doing these things would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, m.

I expect the weasel-words in Apple's description are there to be sure that whatever Video card you choose, the card does actually provide the signals needed. These are the VGA-equivalent signals around the Bar at one end of the connector. That gets you Red, Blue, Green+Luminosity, H-Sync and V-Sync. Those signals in combination are all that is needed to build S-Video or Yellow-RCA composite video On-the-Fly (not buffered).
The signals can be sliced and diced to get slightly different versions of Analog Video using adapters built around the SKART interface. There is a cheap one-chip wonder converter used in lots of converters, also loosely called SKART.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKART
This does NOT do conversion to Digital Video, DVI, or HDMI when starting from VGA. That kind of converter has memory and scanning hardware that pushes the cost up higher than the price of an display card.
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Mirrored doors G4/ great computer, but some questions --- keep or retire?

Would appreciate anyone who could give me some advice here. I still have the Power Mac Mirrored Door G4/1.0 GHz Dual Processor running (purchased in 2002). It's not my only mac, but I still use this one for some tasks. It's running 10.2.9. As is, will leopard make this run even slower than necessary? (512K ram)
Just saw a warning notice that I'm about to have a drive failure. (the one hard drive/ ata). The warning (either from tech tools pro or disk warrior) may be true-- don't know. The computer still runs great.. no signs of failure, except that I probably need to get rid of 10.2.9.
If/when the drive does fail, is it worth replacing the hard drive? If yes, what's the maximum size to replace it with? Can you tell me the exact specs to look for? The original is a seagate...use that brand again?
I only have 512K ram in there. Upgrade at the same time I do the hard drive?
As is, 512K RAM, if I install leopard is it going to be VERY VERY slow?

Hi! Your machine can handle large ata drives probably up to 750gb without any problems. It has 4 ram slots so sticking 4 512mb sticks of ram brings you to 2 gigs and it won't be too slow on Leopard. It won't be as fast a a G5 or MacPro but it will run Leo just fine. 4 sticks of RAM will cost about 65 bucks and a new 500 gig hard drive will cost 80 bucks or so. So for about 150 bucks you can move up in the world. I often buy new hard drives off eBay for less money for projects myself. Tom

Beefing Up a Dual 867 Mirrored Door

Hi Gang
I just picked up a used G4 Dual 867 Mirrored Door. I'd like to have it around as a backup for my G5 Single 1.8 - I'm about to get a new Hard Drive for it. Was wondering about the Seagate 500 Gig below. After I successfully install the new drive, was wondering if I should add some other features?
Think it might make sense to get the OWC Processor upgrade? With this upgrade, even though it might be faster than my old G5 single, it still can't go above 2 Gigs of RAM.
G4 Dual Specifications;
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP63
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 Ultra ATA/100
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Seagate/ST3500630A/
Sonnet Encore/MDX G4 Duet Dual 1.8GHz Processor Upgrade
http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?sort=pop&model=169&type=Processor&T I=3140&shoupgrds=Show+Upgrades
ATI Technologies RADEON 9800 PRO MAC EDITION
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/ATI%20Technologies/100435068/
Thanx for your opinions
Mike

Hey Kenichi - ole wise one
Restraint is a great idea especially when your're broke. I really didn't want that processor upgrade when I saw how much it was. I will however pick up that Seagate 500 Gig HD, and maybe I'll spring for the Radeon 9200. That's a reasonable upgrade for still under $200.
I also have a G4 733 Quicksilver with this upgraded processor;
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MEG42M1200/
It works great, but I think the Dual 867 I just picked up may still beat out the Quicksilver even in it's current configuration?
I never cared for the iMac design, (with it's hardware built into the screen housing)
Thanx
Mike

G4 Mirror Door Video card

We have an older G4 Power Mac that we use for Video editing. Recently upgraded to FC Studio, Motion 3 wil not run on this machine due to Video card not supporting open GL. Our IT depart purchased a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro PC/Mac edition, they were told it would work.
The machine will boot, but ther is no display visable.
Is this machine capable of running this software? IF so which Video card do we need to purchase?
Info:
G4 1.42 mhz Mirror door
OSX 10.4.10
Motion 3
Curent vid card AGP ATI Radeon 9000 pro
New Vid card ATI Radeon 9600 PC/Mac (no display)
TIA
Bob

ATI does have a 256 meg VRam 9800 card built specifically for the 2x/4x agp PowerMac G4's like yours and I bought mine through OWC, although I don't see it currently listed for sale. It would be a better choice than the 128 meg vram card, if you can find it.
That being said, I wouldn't bother to even load FC Studio 2 on this powermac of yours. Motion 3 will barely operate and FCP will launch and then laugh in your face. It's not a pleasant experience; I know firsthand as I loaded Studio 2 on my Quicksilver G4 dualie as a test while awaiting delivery of my Mac Pro last summer. You desperately need to update/upgrade your hardware.

PowerMac G4 (Mirror door drive) shuts down automatically when starting up.

I use a PowerMac G4 (Mirror door drive) 1.25 Ghz processor with1.25 GB ram, 80GB HDD. OS 10.2.7
Recently I could not start the machine as it automaticallyshuts down during starting when the log in dialog box appears. It also creates excessivesounds (hopefully from the processor fan) during starting up.
What is the possible cause for it? Upgrading the OS (10.5.8) could solve it? Or suggestions from exparts like you? Plz Help.

Thanks BDAqua. Sorry, no actionsworked. I think, the possible cause might be, the processor heats up more andthe fan start rotate more to cool down the processors and it makes the sound.But processor becomes hotter and the CPU automatically shuts down.
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I Have a silver w/Mirror doors dual 867 running OSX10.2. I try to install OS9.2.1 I get "THIS PROGRAM CAN NOT RUN ON YOUR COMPUTER" Message I need to be able to run Classic.

I have a powermac Silver with mirror doors 867 dual processors running OSX 10.2 no problem there but I need to run Classic but when I try to install OS 9.2.1 I get a "THIS PROGRAM CAN NOT RUN ON YOUR COMPUTER" message.

Your G4 (MDD) dual 867MHz model Mac requires the model-specific version of OS 9.2.2 which originally came with that machine. It can not use any other version of OS 9.
The model-specific version of OS 9.2.2 can be installed using the original disk set which came with that machine; that disk set boots to OS X 10.2, but the installer on it can install OS 9.2.2 (Classic) as an option.
There is no stand-alone install disk (such as a retail, i.e. white-label, CD) which can be used to install Classic on that model G4.

Need recommendations on improving my G4 mirror door

Machine has been running great since I bought it, but I've about cleaned up all I can to my original 80GB HD and now am running about 6GB free space. Things aren't as snappy as it was before as booting I get the blank desktop for awhile while the beachball spins till all the icons show up. Rather annoying having to wait for a simple system really...sooo, I want to do what I can to speed it up.
1. I'd like a larger HD. I haven't shopped in ages, so I'm a bit rusty on my technologies like SATA and such. I know this is pre-SATA, so am I still able to find a compatible drive for this machine? If so, which one is a recommended fast one? I've never been able to really play with Final Cut Express so I want something that would be fast and better. Can I get SATA on this if possible?
2. I have a WD external "Book" drive. It takes a good few minutes before the d%mn thing shows up on my desktop, which is another annoyance. My work PowerMac G5 externals are always on right away. Is it just the age of my machine? It shouldn't take more than a minute but sometimes, it doesn't even show up even after connecting/disconnecting the USB 2 cable. I am using a USB 2 PCI card (got it at the now defunct CompUSA, but mac dude at the store said this was compatible w/ all the macs he sold...CompUSA brand though). I notice my System Profiler will beachball for a long time then when it stops, then I am able to view my "Contents > Hardware > USB" and see the ports.
3. The beachballs are driving me nuts. The machine is old so I don't want to really spend too much more money, but I want to be able to survive wait times and speed things up till I can afford a new machine. Is it better just to get a Core Duo 2 Mini and forget this one? I find I use external drives now anyways, but I can't really stretch the $1K mark for a low end iMac. But the speed difference is much better on the base iMac than a Mini, but then again, if I'm "getting by" with this old G4, a Mini is light years ahead right? Any advice? $799 is a big stretch, so I'm looking at these cheap tweaks for my machine now. My main thing is to get a bigger HD and stop the beachball spinning.
Let me know which hardware I need, as I don't know what is still "compatible" with this older box.
Also, are there any good hardware upgrades for this? I notice for the older PMG4s but mirrored door seems to have no CPU upgrades. I only own a single one, is there a dual one for this, or even an Intel for it?
Thanks for any help offered!
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How much RAM do you have? You should max it out.
*How Big a Hard Drive Can I Put in My iMac, eMac, or Power Mac?*
http://lowendmac.com/macdan/05/1024.html
Look at these links
Mac Tune-up: 34 Software Speedups
http://www.macworld.com/article/49489/2006/02/softwarespeed.html
52 Ways to Speed Up OS X
http://www.imafish.co.uk/articles/post/articles/130/52-ways-to-speed-up-os-x/
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http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/performance.html
11 Ways to Optimize Your Mac's Performance
http://lowendmac.com/eubanks/07/0312.html
The Top 7 Free Utilities To Maintain A Mac.
http://mac360.com/index.php/mac360/comments/thetop_7_free_utilities_to_maintain_amac/
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 Cheers, Tom

Can I install Final Cut Pro on a G4 Mirror Door?

I want to know if it's possible to install FCP on a 2002/2003 G4 Mirror Door. Which version would work on this setup, and is the minimum processor requirements stated just a guideline -eg will it install and work, or just not run at all?Thanks in advance.

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/specs/
If your system does not meet the reqiurements it will not install at all.

Would a HP dvd 940 w/lightscribe work on a mirrored door G4 w/patchburn?

Hi. I was wondering if I could make a HP dvd 940 w/lightscribe work on a mirrored door G4 using Patchburn for general use including and, most importantly iDVD? It is an IDE drive and I would like to use it to burn some of my iMovies.
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The program functions the same way, regardless of whether the drive is internal or external. PatchBurn provides a list of connected drives and you select the drive for which you need the profile created. I'd try the drive first and determine if it has native OS 10.4.x support, before I'd use PatchBurn. The final release for Tiger is version 4.0.5 and can be found here. Further development of the program ceased, when the need for it was lessened by OS X's expanding support for third-party drives.

Dual 1.25 mirror door G4 door stop

Dunno if anyone can help, offer advice or share a similar bad experience with me..
I bought a lovely new mirror door G4 a couple of years ago, upgrading from my trusty old beige G3 so that I could really get the most out my recently purchased Logic Pro setup.
I was new to OS X and wasnt sure what to expect, so when I started getting occasional kernel panics I wasnt too worried, thought it was just one of those things.
But fairly quickly they started to become quite tiresome, and after chatting to other friends with similar machines I learnt that this wasnt normal behaviour.
I did a bit of research and discovered various things that could be triggering it, and systematically went through my list.
External devices - gone. P-Ram - Zapped. Disc doctor - Run. Ram removed and changed - Done. Powersupplies - changed. system rebuilt - done. HD erased and reinstalled - done.
nothing.. the kernel panics continued.
I even got them reinstalling the basic OS!
After 5 months of this and not much joy from the original reseller, they reluctantly took it back for a check up.
"We checked it, reinstalled the system and it all seems fine now"
Day one.. kernel panic..
Reinstalling Logic and all my other apps.. kernel panics..
Back onto the reseller..
"but it seemed fine here... "
I suggested the Ram again, so some more was sent out. (after a couple of months of waiting)
Same problem. Kernel panics galore.
Ok, so we're a year in now, and my warranty has run out.
Apple kindly extend it and the machine is eventually taken in by another reseller who seem to thoroughly go over it and find problems with the logic board which they replace.
Im slightly more optimistic with these guys who seem wholly more professional, but unfortunately the problems continue.
approaching 15 months now..
I do more research. Swap the Ram with my work machines and whammo, they kernel panic! I'm sure I've sussed it this time and speak to Apple who extend the warranty again.
I speak to the original resellers and explain the problem and specify the top end Kingston Ram as being the only brand that I have read that works 100% with the Power Mac G4's which they agree to replace my old ram with and so another long wait begins..
This takes almost 3 months to arrive.
I set it up, fire up the machine and start reinstalling software...
kernel panic.
I am gutted. Nothing left to try.
I speak to Apple again and they really strike the final nail into the coffin this time by telling me, Im sorry, your warranty has run out, theres nothing more we can do.
This goes on for a few calls with me getting more and more irate, until I manage to get the details of a physical customer relations department that I can actually write to.
So, October 2005 and I write a lengthy letter and include 2 years worth of email correspondance between me and various resellers outlining the problems I have been having.
No reply, so November I write again...
No reply, so December I write again...
No reply, so I call them up to find out whats going on, only to be told that they have no record of recieving anything, the mail must have been lost, oh and you're out of warranty?! But I will not take this as closure on the case, so they suggest to fax them.
So, I fax over all the letters and sit back waiting for the swift reply I am promised.
No reply! So, a week and a half later, today, I call again and guess what..
Yes, we are still waiting for your fax to arrive?!
I explained that fax's where generally a fairly instant device and that it wouldnt take a week and half to get there (this is technical support?)
Oh yeah, one bit of priceless support that I got was after returning from holiday last year and continuing with my enquiries, and I was told that sometimes electrical devices stop working if they arent turned on for a couple of weeks?!!! I had to ignore that one. Are they mental?!
So now here I am, on hold, for an hour so far, waiting to be put through to an imaginary senior representative who will no doubt just tell me what Ive already been told a dozen times..
anyone experience anything similar?
Should I drop it off the roof and go to pc world and buy a dell?
aghhh...
Thanks for listening.. needed a vent for my rant!
M

Hey
Yeah, it was more of a rant than anything.
I'd been on hold for an hour to the customer support line and whilst waiting browsed onto the site and felt the need to relieve some pent up anger.
I've used the Apple disk utility to run the hardware and disk checks.
I used one other system profiler app when I first got it, but to no avail, and was warned away from Norton very early on so havent touched that.
It turns out after talking to support that absolutely everything was replaced, so Ive basically got a new machine, apart from the casing and electrics, so maybe the problem lies within the construction.
I did try running the mac with OS X, and I did indeed still get the panics, I also experienced panics whilst trying to install OS X onto an erased drive with no extra ram, peripheral devices, pci boards.... nothing...
Hopefully now apple will see that Ive actually been trying to revive a lemon and it is beyond repair and help me out.
To really rub my face in it, my monitor is now on the way out too!!
I think in 2 years, I must have got about 2 months use out of the machine and it is determined to either send me grey or turn me to PC.
Every time I power it up, I have to half prepare myself for the grey screen to slowly descend across my desktop revealing the oh so familiar restart message.
Will it ever end?!!
M

I am trying to upgrade to yosemite (for imac) from version 10.6.8 but even though i have 70gb available on my hard drive it wont let me upgrade because it says i dont have enough memory!! what can i do??

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