Upgrading OSX.1 to Tiger but retaining OS9

I can run OS9 and OSX simultaneously, but I want to upgrade the OSX.1.5 to OSX.4 because my new digital camera software needs OSX.2 or later. However I still want to use classic environment for some OS9 applications.
When I install OSX.4, I am unsure whether it is going to wipe the whole hard drive or just the previous OSX.1?
I suspect the answer lies with hard drive partitions, but how do I check if the hard drive is partitioned?
If so, will a new OSX.4 installation leave the OS9 as it is? Will i have to re-install the OS9 applications as well?
Any help appreciated
Thanks
Rupert
Imac G3/600 snow Mac OS X (10.1.x) 40GB 786RAM
Imac G3/600 snow Mac OS X (10.1.x) 40GB 786RAM

Rupes, Welcome to the discussion area!
Normally the installation does not erase any files.
You have to select an option to erase the hard drive and then install.
There is no need for partitioning your hard drive. If your hard drive is already partitioned that is not a problem either.
If so, will a new OSX.4 installation leave the OS9 as it is?
Yes

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It looks that it is not a bad idea to stay with 10.4.11, and upgrade only the FCS.
I will do this on my clone disk, and check if everything works fine.
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