Upgrading OSX -- To Tiger or Leopard?

I need to upgrade OSX if I want to run Adobe Lightroom. My computer is currently running Panther, and I need at least Tiger to make things work. The question is, Leopard is coming out in "spring 2007", which seems to me to be now. Is there any more info on when that will be?
Second question, is there any situation where I would be able to buy Tiger now and then upgrade free to Leopard, given that Leopard will hopefully be available any day now?
I need a better photo system asap (baby was due two days ago). Should I find something that doesn't depend on OSX? I really don't want to get stuck with an outdated version just because of the timing of the Leopard release.

Hello Elizabeth,
" Is there any more info on when that will be? "
No one here knows. If they did know they would never say here. That would be speculation and speculation is not allowed in here.
" Second question, is there any situation where I would be able to buy Tiger now and then upgrade free to Leopard, given that Leopard will hopefully be available any day now? "
Very doubtful. I suppose you may have a case if you bought on Monday and Leopard was released on Tuesday.
" Should I find something that doesn't depend on OSX? "
Only you can decide that one Elizabeth! There are many many options for alternate applications. Everything gets outdated at some point.
Regards
Ian

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Hi Again bluemoondream!
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Dear gentleman
i have  doubt and i would like to have  your experienced point of  view><
if i upgrade from my PANTHER 10.3.9 to either Tiger or Leopard><
will i have same background failures i am having ><
or the new
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is that truth????????????
what  you think ??????????
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gio,
If you PowerBook G4 meets the Tiger System Requirements, or the Leopard System Requirements, and your Hard Drive is not failing, then you can perform an Erase & Install of either system.
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But if the Kernel Panics are being caused by incompatible peripherals, Hardware, or Third-Party applications or programs, once you reintroduce those items, you will once again have Kernel Panics.
If you do an Erase & Install of your original operating system, or Panther 10.3.x, the same would be true.
Member cornelius, has posted a guide to Erase & Install here Formatting, Partitioning Zeroing a Hard Disk Drive, authored by cornelius
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Hello and good afternoon guys. I'm on the brink of killing my Mac PPC. Here are my specs before i start to blabber:
G5 2.7ghz Duo PPC with 2gb Ram currently running 10.4.11 OSX
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Hi SaintPrado, and welcome to the forums!
At this point I think you should get Applejack...
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/19596
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/15667
After installing, Reboot holding down CMD+s, (+s), then when the DOS like prompt shows, type in...
applejack AUTO
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Correct any Disk problems.
Repair Permissions.
Clear out Cache Files.
Repair/check several plist files.
Dump the VM files for a fresh start.
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Also, Get Temperature Monitor - 4.51 to see if it's heat related...
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/19994
"This software OSX cannot be installed on this computer" error.
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Before doing a clean install please make sure you've back-up all your Songs,
then test to see if they work,
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and type Logic-Pro 8 in seconds the installed Files will appear highlight all the Files you want that comes up saying Logic-Pro 8
Right-Click onto them then select Trash or Manually Drag them to the Trash.
As to whether you want to use Leo or Tiger its up to you,
I would love to use Leo however at this time it isn't fully supported by Digi Design Pro-Tools LE oo2R, so i'll have to wait before i jump in,
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I know I have read conflicting posts but have never seen anything concrete from say barefeats or macworld regarding AUDIO benchmarks.
Would appreciate reading track (virtual instruments) and plug-in count with TIGER vs LEOPARD.
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What will I lose when upgrading from Tiger to Leopard

I am relatively new to Macs and am concerned about what I will lost if we upgrade out Mac mini server from Tiger to leopard. There was a time when new Apple computers were not backward compatible, certainly Microsoft upgrades always have issues. Thus I have fear for performing an upgrade from Tiger to Leopard on our server without knowing what we are in for.
I looked at some of the discussion threads here and elsewhere. I see a lot of minutiae but none that would be an issue to me. Then again, no one seems to put out a publication (including/especially Apple) that say here are the possible drawbacks.
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I guess our biggest concern in our existing data. Are there any types of >>document formats that we will no longer be able to read?
Only if the applications which open those documents run in Classic.
And only if you do not have another program that can open them.
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Lost access to all those files.
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The issue in photoshop, from what I understand, is saving to a network drive.
(possible file corruption)
Save locally, then copy to a network drive, and pshop should work fine.
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OK. A quick update.
After waiting for about 10 minutes for the rotating circle in the bottom right corner to stop, I was able to click on the "Connect As..." button. It took another 10 minutes, but the Connect As window eventual popped up. I entered the Userid and Password (saving to Keychain) and was able to see all the sharepoints on the the server. I browsed all the connected drives and folders without issue.
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I then tried to reconnect to the server, and again another 10 minutes wait, although this time the Leopard client eventually connected automatically with the proper User, as per the AFP logs confirms.
Although, the client can now connect to the server, for it to take 10 minutes will be unacceptable to management, not to mention the end user. Tiger clients can connect in a couple seconds!
Is there a way to reduce the Leopard login time to, say, a couple seconds, like it does with the Tiger clients?
Again, any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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I upgraded my iBook G4 from 384MBytes to 640Mbytes and upgraded from Tiger to Leopard.
After a few weeks the HDD failed. I bought a new disk, installed it and trued to install Leopard, but the install fails reporting "insufficient memory".
I assume the installation requires more memory than the OS actually needs to be able to run.
I need Tiger install CD/DVD so I can install Tiger first and then upgrade to Leopard.

Call Apple Customer Support 1-800-767-2775, provide the Serial Number and specifications of the Mac, and for a reasonable fee, they will supply a replacement set of system discs (if available).
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You need much more RAM than that.
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http://support.apple.com/kb/SP517

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I tried all suggestions I found in this forum (see list below) to no avail.
It seems Mac OS cannot index the system disk.
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Only if your data has any value to you.
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