Upgrading SATA drives on Dual 2G G5

I have a standard configuration Dual 2G G5. I have added a 250GB drive. Now I would like to replace those drives with larger capacity drives - perhaps 750 GB or 1T drives. Will the machine allow me to do that?

Hi Greg Smith10-
Yes you can do this, and since you have added a drive before I am guessing you know what is involved and what you need to do to physically accomplish the task.
Luck-
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Upgrading SATA drives & putting old drives into firewire enclosure

I just ran out of space on my two 250GB internal drives on my G5. These were the BTO units, Maxtor 6Y250M0 and I understand they have a 8MB buffer and 9.3ms seek time.
I am planning on purchasing two 500GB drives to replace them. I have a few performance questions and would like to solicit some opinions on some drives.
First, I understand jumping to 500GB would really slow things down, is this true? What about 750GB?
Second, what brand/model would be recommended? I store music, videos, and lots of pictures plus I play heavy processor load games.
Third, SATA 300? My machine is only 150 but I do plan on upgrading one day to a Mac Pro... Will the slowdown be worse than just buying a 150?
Forth, I am planning on purchasing a firewire enclosure for the two older drives, preferably a dual unit, any recommendations there. (For aesthetic purposes I would like something that looks great). I thought about USB but my machine is only USB 1.0 and I just can't bring myself to that slowdown.
Any recommendations and responses are greatly appreciated. I used to sell this stuff for years but have been out of the loop for sometime now...
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Thank you japamac, The hatter and tobszanski for your ideas and help. Here is what I ended up doing.
I purchased the OWC Mercury Elite-AL FireWire 800/400 + USB2 Pro Dual SATA drive enclosure to hold both of the Maxtor drives that came with my machine:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MEFW924AL2K/
This enclosure is great, looks like the G5 and has all the connectivity I was looking for. I then purchased two Maxtor MaXLine Pro 500 SATA II drives:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Maxtor/7H500F0/
I used SuperDuper! to copy on the new 500GB and now I am in business, with plenty of space to spare. SuperDuper is a great app: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/13803
I was going to use Carbon Copy Cloner but I was reading somewhere that they haven't updated it to run with 10.4 but I am more than satisfied using SuperDuper.
Thank you all for your help....
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Upgrade SATA drive for macbook late 2008

Hello!!
I am here to ask for help. Let me tell you a bit more about my Mac:
Late 2008 silver 13" MacBook 250GB 2GB RAM 2.4GHz IntelCore2Duo DDR3 MB467LL/A, currently at 10.5.8 OSx system (yes I know I need to update the software as well!)
I currently bought 4GB kit (2x2GB) RAM to upgrade on my silver MacBook (late 2008), and would also like to update my hard drive.
I have looked around on online shops for 2.5" 9mm SATA drive, and came across to 1TB for not too bad a price (between £85 to £100).
Anyone know whether if this is ok for my laptop?
Samsung, WD Scorpio Blue and Toshiba, all are at 5400rpm for 1TB. (However there is 750GB Seagate 7200rpm 16MB - recommended???)
Large memory/drive are usually much needed with me as I do use a lot of design work e.g. Adobe InDesign/Illustrator/Photoshop...you get the drift .
Any advice would be much appreciated!
Looking forward to hear from you soon!
Thanks again,
ejburton.

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I have to say that I'm very pleased with the Hitachi 200GB 7200rpm drive.

Urgent - No 64bit Promise SATA driver (not RAID)

I'd already installed XP64 on an old PATA drive without problems, so today I decided to use the new VIA SATA drive to dual-boot it off my SATA drive, along with my main XP32 installation. Unfortunately, although it found the VIA driver at F6 and got to the GUI install it locked solid at Devices. Worse than that it's totally screwed all the boot files so I now can't get to anything on either the SATA or PATA drives, and blue screen on any attempt to boot either drive. That's 4 OS installs gone.
I moved the SATA over to the Promise controller thinking I'd seen 64bit Promise drivers for weeks, but it seems these are only RAID drivers and are called "Promise FastTrak 378 (tm) Controller". Needless to say they don't find a single SATA drive. What I need would be the driver called "Promise SATA378 (tm) Controller" but I can't find it. Have Promise really released a RAID driver but no single SATA driver for the same controller???
If I don't find it I guess I'm looking at 4 days spent formatting and reinstalling.

Hi Jocko
OK, I'll try explain (and remember!)
First I installed XP32 on the lone SATA drive. No problem as it was the only drive.
Then I added an old PATA drive, which BIOS and Windows Setup always sees as Disk 0 and the SATA as Disk 1.
I then installed XP32 onto the PATA drive. No problem, I think it was because Windows saw it as Disk 0 as it put the MBR in the right place.
I then put Server64 and XP64 on the PATA drive to test them (leaving by day-to-day install safe on the SATA drive. Again, no problems, it updated the MBR correctly to let me multiboot between the 3 OSes on the PATA drive.
I then tried to add an install of XP64 to the SATA drive, but because I left the PATA drive connected, Windows setup updated the MBR of the PATA drive instead. On subsequent reboot it failed because it was pointing to the wrong drive (I think). So I had half an install on the SATA drive, and a boot.ini on the PATA which pointed to a non-existent half installation. Even with BIOS listing the SATA drive as the boot device, each time the PC restarted it tried to carry on the installation and of course failed.
That's when I had to refer to my book on Recovery Console...
So it seems that if multiple drives are installed, it will update the MBR on the lowest ID drive, which is not necessarily the drive the installation is actually going on to! I think!

After upgrading from Win 8 to 8.1 my DVD RAM GT80N SATA Drive is no longer working

After upgrading from Win 8 to 8.1 my DVD RAM GT80N SATA Drive is no longer recognizing discs. When I first put a disc in the drive runs for a bit and then stops. I've tried updating the driver but it says it has the most current driver. Under manage, it does not show any error codes and it says it is working correctly. I've looked at the regedit and it does not have any of upper and lower filters. I've tried disabling, rebooting, and reenabling. What am I missing? Another issue I've had since upgrading is that my network adapter needs reset several times a day in order to remain connected to wifi.

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Internal SATA drives on G5 Dual 2ghz?

Is there any difference at all between drive bay "A" and bay "B?"
I know that we can make boot drives for either, but is there any advantage to having the primary drive be in bay "A" -vs- "B?"
Additionally, if both are loaded with bootable systems, can the drives be swapped without any consequences? I guess I'm wondering whether there is any reason Apple puts the stock drive in bay "A." Thoughts?
much obliged,
Mick

Oops! I forgot to ask one more related thing.
These new giant 750 SATA drives, the Barracudas. Are there any limitations installing these in an "old" G5 dual 2ghz?... In other words, is my G5 still up to date enough to take advantage of the latest SATA technology? I'm having trouble sorting through the various model numbers and just wanted to know if my older hardware could still enjoy the ride.
Anybody put in a 10,000 rpm Western Digital SATA? Is there a big speed boost? A Windows guy was suggesting a system with a small 10,000 rpm drive like that in bay A with just the system on it, and then storing applications and such on a larger SATA in Bay B. Can that be done? Is it a good idea?
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Pretty much any of the SATA 3.0 Gbps drives.
Western Digital Black and Blue and Hitachi 7K drives are all good choices.
If you try a SATA 6.0 Gbps drive, it will need to be jumped to limit to SATA 3.0 Gbps.

How to connect a SATA Drive in a G4 MDD Desktop Mac?

Due to much more needed harddisk space for music production on my G4 1.25 GHz Dual PC, I ordered and just received a SATA 500 GB internal Harddiskdrive.
Under "About This Mac" in the System Profiler I get a list of all my internally already connected ATA Drives. But there is also a (empty) category available, named "Serial-ATA" which I strongly assume stands for SATA. I further think once such a category is existing I should be able to connect a SATA drive.
Now:
1. Can I connect the new SATA HD internally in my Dual G4 or must I use the Drive as an external Firewire Drive (of course in a special housing)?
2. If it is possible to built in a SATA drive, must I buy an adapter in any form, because the interface on the SATA drive is different from the cable endings in my Mac?
3. If so, what is such an Adapter be called (from Inerface A name to Interface B name) and do I get it at an electronic store?
4. Is there anything crucial I do need to know regarding this matter (maybe voltage compatibility, adjustments on SATA drive or in my Macintosh G4, etc.)?
5. And if it should not be possible to use the HD internally (as in question 1.), are there housings with Firewire 800 connectors available for SATA drives which I can use?
I would be very glad for your specialist help! Thank you!
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Thank you all (Malcolm Rayfield · The hatter · Rodney Culling) so very much. I thought I would be lost and stuck - on contrary I got your huge help.
Unfortunately I bought already the SATA 7200.10 and it had been delivered. But I am very happy to hear that there are PCI SATA cards available and I preferably would like this solution to have the Drive as an internal drive. It is for me easier to tame the noise not having an additional drive in my Mini recording studio.
I will investigate into the prices of those cards and only do hope that the price for such PCI SATA cards are not to expensive otherwise my bread deliverer (boss) will refuse. He was already not excited to hear I ordered a SATA drive but there was no ATA anymore available at my usual source and if I later upgrade to a G5 I can take the drive with me. I only will have then the reverse situation using some of my older ATA drives in a new G5.
Thanks a million again for your kind and unexpected fast help. Thanks!
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Windows 7 Clean Install won't detect SATA Drive

I'm trying to install Windows 7 on my desktop that is currently running Vista and XP on a dual boot. I want to eliminate the dual boot and do a clean install with Windows 7. I have a Western Digital SATA drive WD2500KS. If I try to install "custom" it will not detect the drive and wants to load drivers. If I try to upgrade it shows the drive and both partitions and want's to know which partition. I ran the Windows 7 compatibility program and it shows the drive and no issues pertaining to installation. How do I get a clean install to recognize the hard drive? Processor is Intel Core2 Quad CPU 2.4 Ghz.

What machine is this? homebuilt or OEM?
Do you have a Dell computer? It appears that the built-in Dell SATA drivers aren't recognized during the Windows 7 extraction portion of setup (when your BIOS is set with RAID Autodetect / AHCI). Might also work for a non-Dell PC:
note: you should install the latest BIOS update from Dell's support.dell.com website first, or your manufacturers website for a non-Dell computer.
1. Boot into the BIOS (press F2 while the Dell splash screen is showing, will be different for a non-Dell).
2. Go to Drives > SATA Operation. (will be different for a non-Dell)
3. Change from "RAID Autodetect / AHCI" to "RAID Autodetect / ATA".
4. Press escape, choose Save / Exit.
Also, play it safe, shut down your PC and disconnect all USB devices (except the keyboard / mouse, they do not need to be disconnected) before trying to reinstall.
Also check this thread for help http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-CA/w7itproinstall/thread/41e2fec7-b214-486b-9f29-89a3ecc7520f
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WD 74GB SATA Raptor into Dual 1.42- Howzit work?!

Hi, I'm a bit confused about this, any help gratefully received...
I've just picked up a Dual 1.42 FW800 G4.
It has 2 ATA drives in it already, both in the back bays.
I'm looking at putting a WD 74GB Raptor Drive into it as an audio drive, but I'm confused about SATA- can I install a SATA drive into this G4, or not? I've read/heard many different versions of what's possible and not.
Can anyone tell me what I need to do?
Thanks in advance....
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Hi to A Brody and The Hatter,
Thanks for your replies, that's really helped me out.
SATA can not be installed on a G4 without a PCI to SATA adapter.<< </div>
I would really prefer this Raptor to go inside the G4, as I've got plenty of other stuff going in on firewire.
Re PCI cards-Do you know if I have any options here in the UK besides the Seritek ones (I haven't yet found any!). Of their range, would I be best off getting the 2 + 2 version (I'm thinking of extra SATAs in the future, as I guess I'll be upgrading to a MacPro in a year or two. Well ok, two!)... or is there a simpler, cheaper one lurking somewhere?
Qu. for The Hatter -
... be aware of the need for 270º or 90º SATA cable connection.<< </div>
I don't understand this at all!.... could you simplify it for my overtaxed brain?!
Also- do you think I'm better off using the Raptor as a boot drive rather than as an Audio drive? I assumed that I'd get better performance from having the Raptor doing the audio work..?
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Which 1TB (or bigger) SATA drive is the coolest/quietest/least power-hungry

I have a Power Mac G4 Dual 1.25 GHz MDD (it's this model here) which (as it's unmodified) runs very hot & noisy much of the time.
What doesn't help is that I have 3 hard drives installed. 2 of these (including the boot drive) are IDE (80 GB & 120 GB), and are attached to the cables at the front of the machine (am I right in thinking that this is the ATA-66 bus?). The third is a SATA drive (250 GB) connected to one of the sets of cables at the back of the machine (the ATA-100 bus?) via an IDE -> SATA adapter (not a PCI card).
This adapter took me many weeks of research to track down (& order online from the USA) as there didn't appear to be (at the time - a few years ago) anyone here in the UK that made or sold these adapters. (The opposite adapter - IDE drive to SATA cable - was freely available ironically, even in my local electronics shop). The physical size of the adapter means that I can't sit one of the other drives in the empty drive bay at the back of the machine.
A few months ago, as I was almost out of hard drive space, I decided to get a new (SATA) drive to replace the existing 3 drives. As well as giving me lots of capacity, one drive is going to use less power than 3, give off much less heat than 3, and hopefully reduce the fan noise.
Incidentally, I've found many good articles on reducing heat/power consumption/noise in MDD Macs - see here, here, here, here & here.
At the time, 1TB was the largest size available. After much research, along with some forum postings - see here & here - I decided to go for the Samsung Spinpoint F1 drive, which is currently quite cheap - see here.
However, I recently discovered that Seagate now makes a 1.5 TB drive, which would obviously be preferable - see here & here although it is much more expensive - see here.
However, there are many reports of problems with the Seagate drive - see here, here & here.
What I'm wondering is if there are any drives that are bigger than 1TB apart from the Seagate?
If not, would people recommend that I chance going for the Seagate, and hope that I don't have the problems, or that I'll be able to flash the firmware at some future point to sort the problem if it occurs (I have Virtual PC 7.0.2 installed, running Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 - would this enable internal hard drives to have their firmware updated?) or should I just play safe and go for the Samsung, even though it's "only" 1TB?
The largest capacity money can buy is my primary concern, followed by low power usage, low heat output & low noise.
Many thanks.

Thanks for the info.
I don't really see the point in the expense of a PCI card when the IDE -> SATA adaptor works fine, and if I bought a PCI card, I'd then feel obliged to go through the hassle of selling the adaptor on eBay to try to recoup part of the cost of the PCI card.
I should have mentioned before that I want to format my new drive as a single partition, in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format, and to boot from it. I only want the new drive in the Mac - I don't want any other drives in there. Apart from increased capacity & performance, and reduced power consumption, heat & noise - the main point of getting the new drive is so that there is only one drive in my Mac. Having more than one is a complete pain for me.
At the moment, despite having "Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible" unchecked in the Energy Saver pane of System Preferences, all 3 drives spin down very soon after they stop being accessed, which means an infuriating delay (& spinning beach ball) when they spin up again. One or more of them spinning up even interrupts music playing sometimes, and when I go to shut down the computer, if they are spun down but mounted on the desktop, they spin up again before they spin down as part of the shutdown procedure! Also, with more than one drive, I can't tell which drive a file/folder is on just by looking at it, if it's on the desktop.
As far as Other World Computing goes, they may ship to the UK, but by the time the international shipping charges are added, I very much doubt if the total cost of a new drive would work out cheaper than ordering from a UK supplier & getting free shipping.
Another potential problem I've discovered with the Seagate drive is actually a quote from the Other World Computing website that's reproduced in comment number 66 (on page 3) of the MacRumors Forums thread that I gave the link to in my initial post. Basically it says that if you format the Seagate drive as a single partition on a Mac, the performance isn't acceptable. It's apparently fine though if it's partitioned in 2 equal size volumes, or if you format it as an NTFS or FAT32 drive. Neither of these work-arounds are any use to me though.
Everything so far suggests that I should just go for the Samsung 1 TB drive, but I'm hesitant to do so until it's confirmed to me that there aren't any other drives out there that are bigger than 1 TB apart from the Seagate, and also, knowing my luck, the day after I buy the Samsung, Western Digital or Hitachi or someone will bring out a flawless 1.5 TB drive for not a lot more money, and I'll be kicking myself for ending up with only 2 thirds of the capacity than I could have had...

Hp pavilion g7 notebook - DVD RAM GT80N SATA Drive

After upgrading from Win 8 to 8.1 my DVD RAM GT80N SATA Drive is no longer recognized by my laptop.
Any ideas how to resolve this issue?
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Open windows Control Panel, open Device Manager, expand DVD/CD-ROM Drives, right click the drive and select Uninstall - when this has completed, restart the notebook and let Windows fully load for a couple of minutes before checking if it's now listed correctly.
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His grieving wife wants pictures extracted from the drives. There is no known back up and the G5 tower cannot be found.
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Yes, if and when the tower can be located and retrieved.   In one communication it was described as a G4, in another, a G5.
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Anyone have any experience with this?
Thanks for the help!
Dave

Running Windows XP on sata drive

I'm just waiting for my new macpro to arrive and trying to get my ducks in a row for installing Windows XP onto a WD Raptor sata drive.
Can I install XP onto the sata drive using Boot Camp, I read somewhere that SL didn't give you that option but Leapard did. I haven't upgraded my version of BC yet to 3.1, still at 3.0.1 due to some problems I've heard about with version 3.1.
I would think the Raptor drive should be formatted for NTFS, does that get done with Boot Camp during the installation.
If choosing the sata drive is not an option with Boot Camp is there a work around.
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Hi Daleslad,
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The formatting of the destination disk/partition is done during the Windows installation.
See the BootCamp Installation Guide pages 8 to 10 to be found here http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/
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