Upgrading to L7.1/Tiger: Pitfalls and advice?

Hi guys,
Been away all Summer. Left Tiger boxed on the studio floor. Running 7.1 on a dual 2.5 on 10.3.9
I don't especially want to erase hard-drive. Too many codes to reinstall. Better to stick with 10.3.9 or choose the UPGRADE path?
I know clean installs are generally recommended but to be honest, I'd sooner stick with 10.3 than erase everything, so...are UPGRADES really so bad?
Thanks all.

Hi DBX.
I strongly advise you to get another drive(FW), clone your existing system (make bootable). You can then do whatever you want, upgrade/clean install, safe in the knowlege that if all goes pear shaped you`ve got a working system to go back to. Believe me this will make you sleep better at night.
As an inveterate fiddler ( I can`t restist system updates and other glittering prizes promised by software co`s) I`ve lost count of the number of times I`ve trashed my system.
Once you have your system cloned you take your time doing a clean install and getting things just how you like them. Also I think you`ll be surprised at how quickly you can get your system up and running after a clean install.The thought of doing it is often more daunting than actually doing it. Bear in mind
that a lot of apps (Logic NOT included) can simply be dragged to the new system, no installation required.
Of course it goes without saying that if your serious about your studio you should already have a system clone.
IMHO
cheers Parky

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