Upgrading WCS to Prime

I'm in the process of upgrading a customer's WCS server to Prime. I know before I can upgrade the WCS server to Prime. I must first upgrade the WCS sever to NCS. My problem is the customer's WCS server is running software version 7.0.230 and I need to upgrade it to 7.0.240 before I can extract the WSC database. My question is, if I upgrade the WCS server from 7.0.230 to 7.0.240 will that cause the customer's Wireless Lan Controllers that are being managed by WLC server to also upgrade?

Maurice, I had a devil of a time upgrading WCS to NCS to Prime.
Long story short, I found the time taken on a very unsuccessful WCS->NCS->Prime migration was 4-8 times longer than the time it took to just install Prime, add the WLCs, and manually rebuild the maps.
YMMV.
PS, Cisco Prime LMS is probably replacing their wired management software (often LMS, Cisco Works+ RME, etc). I believe every best-practice guide I've seen from Cisco says to have one Prime for wireless, and one Prime for wired... even though Prime looks like it could handle both.

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Upgrade WCS to Prime

Hi Can anyone please advise if a current working Cisco WCS systems can be upgraded to Cisco Prime. Also is there a requirment to upgrade the license or is it just a case of upgrading the software.

Yes, you can upgrade WCS 7.x to Prime Infrastructure. I'm not sure if you can go straight to 1.2 but definitely you can go WCS 7 - NCS 1.1 (PI 1.1) - PI 1.2. See this guide.
A new license is required. See this reference (Table 7) for details.

Upgrading WCS 7 to Cisco Prime (CPI) 2

Hello,
I have read a few article and posts about upgrading WCS 7 to CPI 1.2 via NCS. However now with Prime 2.0 I was hopping I didn't have to use NCS.
I can't find any migration guides or documents about migrating to 2.0 instead of 1.x.
Can anyone point me in the right direction.

Direct migration from WCS 7.x to Cisco Prime Infrastructure 2.0 is NOT possible.
in my work I had this problem.
the only solution was to first install the NCS 1.1, after the patch 1.1.1.24 and then migrate to 2.0
Backup WCS data , upgrade to NCS 1.1 and restore de data...
install patch 1.1.1.24 , only then you can do the upgrade to version 2
CISCO:
"We strongly recommend upgrading your WCS to 7.0.230.0 (for data integrity) or higher before attempting to migrate to NCS.
Users will first need to do an intermediary migration to NCS 1.1.1.24, and then do an inline upgrade (or migration) to Cisco Prime Infrastructure 2.0"

Upgrade WCS 7.0 to PI 1.2 via NCS 1.1

Hello all,
we have started to do the upgrade from WCS 7.0 to PI12. In order to do that we first need to upgrade to NCS 1.1. We have ordered the following from Cisco:
R-W-PI12-M-K9
WCS 7.0 to Cisco Prime   Infrastructure 1.2 Migration
N/A
14 days
No
N/A
1
1.995,00
1.995,00
0
1.995,00
R-PI12-BASE-K9
Prime Infrastructure 1.2 Base   License and Software
N/A
14 days
Yes
N/A
1
0,00
0,00
0
0,00
L-PI12-LF-500-LIC
Prime Infrastructure 1.2 -   Lifecycle - 500 Device Lic PAK
N/A
14 days
Yes
N/A
1
0,00
0,00
0
0,00
L-PILMS42-500-M
Prime Infrastructure LMS 4.2 -   500 Device Upgrade Lic
N/A
14 days
Yes
N/A
1
0,00
0,00
0
0,00
L-PI12-LF-100-LIC
Prime Infrastructure 1.2 -   Lifecycle - 100 Device Lic PAK
N/A
14 days
Yes
N/A
3
0,00
0,00
0
0,00
L-PILMS42-100-M
Prime Infrastructure LMS 4.2 -   100 Device Upgrade Lic
N/A
14 days
Yes
N/A
3
0,00
0,00
0
0,00
L-W-PI12-500-M
WCS to Prime Infrastructure 1.2   Migration 500 Device
N/A
14 days
No
N/A
1
0,00
0,00
0
0,00
L-W-PI12-100-M
WCS to Prime Infrastructure 1.2   Migration 100 Device
N/A
14 days
No
N/A
3
0,00
0,00
0
0,00
I have done the upload of the XML File from our WCS 7.0 installation to get the License File. But on the NCS 1.1 installation the following License is needed first (Cisco Prime Network Control System 1.1 Config Guide):
NoteBefore adding the licenses that are migrated from your WCS installation, apply the L-WCS-NCS1-M-K9 license. The licenses migrated from WCS are generated as “ADD” licenses, and you cannot apply them unless you apply the L-WCS-NCS1-M-K9 license.
L-WCS-NCS1-M-K9 is the Product Number to do the upgrade from WCS 7.0 to NCS 1.0, R-WCS-PI11-M-K9 is the product number to dothe upgrade from WCS 7.0 to NCS/PI 1.1.
If I try to install just the License File I get from Cisco using the XML file from our WCS 7.0 installation, I get the error "Unable to add any license without an NCS (L-NCS-1.0-K9) license.".
But how do a get this license if I ordered R-W-PI12-M-K9 (WCS 7.0 to PI1.2 Upgrade License)? What is the step to get the right License?
Many thanks in advance for any help on that issue.
Best regards,
Hans

Hello Joe,
no. The information in the deployment Guide (the link i proveded before) is wrong.
You still need to follow the upgrade path WCS 7.0 -> NCS 1.1 (here you have to use for example 1.1.1.24, because 1.1.2.12 cannot be upgraded to PI 1.2), then you can upgrade NCS 1.1 to PI 1.2 (if you upgraded the WCS to NCS 1.1.1.24 you need to install a patch ncs_patch-1.1.1.24-upgrade-12.gz, for other 1.1 releases you need a different patch).
The major problem was the licensing. Because with the order of the Upgrade Licenses from WCS 7.0 to PI 1.2 I got "normal licenses", for PI 1.2, a Base License and Lifecycle Licenses (the number of Lifecycle Licenses matches the number from the order).
Because we ordered the WCS 7.0 to PI 1.2 Upgrade Licenses I also ordered the NCS Appliance with the PI 1.2 (before I thought a direct upgrade from WCS 7.0 to PI 1.2 should be possibel, why not, if you can order the licenses with the description Upgrade License WCS 7.0 to PI 1.2 :-)). So I had to downgrade the NCS Appliance to NCS 1.1. After the downgrade the NCS Appliance came up without any licenses. So the major porblem was that I could not use the PI 1.2 licenses (they are not installable on NCS 1.1). So I got a demo/temporary license from Cisco for NCS 1.1 to do just the migration. After the final upgrade to PI 1.2 I installed the base and the lifecycle licenses and now everything is fine.
Best regards,
Hans

WCS to Prime 1.2 licensing

Hi
I am doing a migration from WCS 7.x to Prime 1.2
There is a WCS 7 to Prime 1.2 migration license pack that we have obtained.
However, as I understand it, we need to install NCS 1.1.1.24 first, import the WCS database and then carry on to do the NCS to Prime upgrade. So we have the licenses for the final Prime 1.2 deployment.
When we get to NCS 1.1.1.24 we cannot migrate off of the main login page until we apply an appropriate NCS license. We were told by Cisco Sales that a temporary license can be generated for NCS 1.1.1.24 by sending licensing the license XML file taken from WCS along with the VUDI and our license order info. We have followed this path successfully once. We sent the XML file to Cisco along with some other info and they returned a license we could use on NCS. We then moved to Prime 1.2. However on this occasion Cisco insist we need an NCS license.
I have moved from NCS 1.x to Prime 1.2 before and all the licenses have been retained.
So are Cisco telling me that to migrate from WCS 7 to Prime 1.2 I should license the NCS server and simply upgrade it to Prime 1.2 with no further licensing needing purchased ? If so why is there a WCS to Prime 1.2 license pack ?
Or are Cisco saying we need the NCS license AND the Prime 1.2 licenses ?
Thanks for any input, St.

Thanks for this too Scott.
I see that you could license NCS 1.1.1.24 then move to Prime 1.2 without applying further licenses. I have done this in a NCS to Prime upgrade. Prime maintains the NCS licenses. However there is a WCS to Prime 1.2 License SKU which we have ordered because we are starting from WCS on this occasion. The licenses generated from these PAKs do not work on NCS 1.1.1.24
So it would seem that the WCS to Prime migration SKU does not include the necessary license to allow us to pass through NCS 1.1.1.24 during the migration.
I think if we had ordered a WCS to NCS migration SKU we would have got the necessary NCS license. We could then install that and carry on to Prime 1.2 with no further license requirements. If that is the case why is there a WCS to Prime 1.2 migration SKU ?
We did resolve this issue before by following the advice of Cisco Sales. We logged a call with licensing, supplied the exported WCS license XML file and the NCS VUDI and they gave us an NCS license. However, on this occasion licensing are not so forthcoming. They suggest we need a NCS 1.x licence.
So either they are implying we need a NCS 1.x AND a Prime 1.2 license. Or we should have bought a WCS to NCS migration license and the NCS to Prime migration license is useless because it does not allow us to pass through NCS as part of the migration process.
Thanks for any help on this, St.

Upgrade from Cisco Prime infrastructure verion 2.0 to 2.1

Request you all to please let me know if i have to install point patch before upgrading the cisco prime infrastructure 2.0 to 2.1.

After moving to 2.1, there is a 2.1.1 point patch currently available.
You should install that and the latest device package (4.0 as of this posting).
As always, the Release Notes are the best place to check the current available updates.

How to upgrade WCS Plus 500 to 700?

To upgrade WCS Plus 500 lic to support 200 more APs, which one is the correct choice?
1. Add WCS Plus 100 lic x 2; or
2. Add WCS Enterprise 1000 lic
Refer to ordering guide
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5755/ps6301/ps6305/product_data_sheet0900aecd804b4646.html
Cisco WCS is licensed as either a single server or enterprise deployment.
Single Server License Overview
• Licenses: WCS-STANDARD-K9, WCS-PLUS-UPG-K9, and WCS-WLSE-UPG-K9
• License increments: 50, 100, 500 (Up to 1500 for WLSE-to-WCS conversion only)
• Single server deployment
• Suitable for customers deploying up to 500 (Up to 1500 for WLSE-to-WCS conversion) Cisco Aironet lightweight access points
• One license file per Product Authorization Key (PAK) certificate
• Available in WCS Base and WCS PLUS configurations
Enterprise Server License (Multiple Servers) Overview (release 4.1 or later)
• License: WCS-ENT-PLUS-K9
• License increments: 1000, 2500, 10000, 50000
• Single or multiple server deployment (Cisco WCS Navigator included in 10000, and 50000 licenses)
• Suitable for customers deploying 500 or more Cisco Aironet lightweight access points
• Multiple license files linked to a single PAK certificate
• Server decrements available number of access points as licenses are allocated within the network
BUT
All Cisco WCS licenses of the same option (Base or PLUS) are additive. Cisco WCS licenses can be combined to support an incremental number of access points (such as 300, 700, 900) beyond the distinct license increments (such as 50, 100, 500) offered.
Example 1: To purchase a new single server license for 800 access points
Purchase: WCS-STANDARD-K9, (1) WCS-APBASE-500, and (3) WCS-APBASE-100
contradiction in the doc.

Existing
1
x
WCS-PLUS-500
Cisco WCS with PLUS License for 500 APs, Windows/Linux
Target upgrade to monitor
700 APs

Upgrading WCS 7.0.164.0 to 7.0.172.0

I'm trying to upgrade my WCS from 7.0.164.0 to 7.0.172.0 but it keeps throwing me into the manual process because it detects multiple versions. Seems a previous upgrade from 6.0.132 to 7.0.164 did dot remove the 6.0.132 directory or files.
Am I safe to delete the 6.0.132 directory/files and trying again?
Thanks!

Surendra,
Thanks for the reply. By "clean upgrade" I presume you mean "manual upgrade" because the automated upgrade does not work?
Cisco Wireless Control System Configuration
Guide
Manually Upgrading WCS on Windows
Follow these steps to manually upgrade WCS on a Windows server. This type of upgrade is not recommended.
Step 1 If possible, stop all WCS user interfaces to stabilize the database.
Step 2 Back up the WCS database by following the instructions in the "Backing Up the WCS Database (for Windows)" section.
Step 3 Uninstall the WCS application by following the instructions in the "Uninstalling WCS on Windows" section.
Step 4 Install the new version of WCS by following the instructions in the "Installing WCS for Windows" section on page 2-6.
Step 5 Restore the WCS database by following the instructions in the "Restoring the WCS Database (for Windows)" section.
Going from 7.0.164.0 to 7.0.164.3 didn't work either.

Upgrading WCS to v7.0

I plan on upgrading WCS from version 6.0.181.0 to 7.0230.0
Is there any reason not to or concerns?

As Steve pointed out you should be fine. Here is a WLC and WCS software matrix if you want that warm and fuzzy ..
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/5500/tech_notes/Wireless_Software_Compatibility_Matrix.html

Upgrading to Cisco Prime 2.1

Hello;
I am trying to upgrade my Prime 1.3 to Cisco Prime 2.1, I have the patch "PI_1_3_0_20-Update.4-16.tar.gz" installed but when I try and upgrade to Cisco Prime 2.1, I recieve this message:
********-****NCS-****/****# application upgrade PI-Upgrade-2.1.0.0.87.tar.gz defaultRepo
Save the current ADE-OS running configuration? (yes/no) [yes] ? yes
Generating configuration...
Saved the ADE-OS running configuration to startup successfully
Initiating Application Upgrade...
Stage 1 of 7: Transferring file ...
-- complete.
Stage 2 of 7: Unpacking file ...
-- complete.
Stage 3 of 7: Executing pre-install ...
[ERROR] Upgrade from version 1.3.0.20 to Prime Infrastructure 2.1 is not supported.
Aborting application upgrade ...
% Pre-install step failed. Please check the logs for more details.
When I then try and install 1.3 patch:
********-****NCS-****/****# application upgrade PI_1_3_0_20-Update.4-16.tar.gz defaultRepo
Save the current ADE-OS running configuration? (yes/no) [yes] ? yes
Generating configuration...
Saved the ADE-OS running configuration to startup successfully
Initiating Application Upgrade...
Stage 1 of 7: Transferring file ...
-- complete.
Stage 2 of 7: Unpacking file ...
-- complete.
% This version of the application is already installed. Remove first if reinstall is desired.
********-****NCS-****/****#
Any ideas would be much appreciated.

Hi John,
Please check this post:
http://rscciew.wordpress.com/2014/08/23/prime-infrastructure-1-3-to-2-1-upgrade/
Regards
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WCS to prime infrastructure 1.2

Hello,
I need to know how to do the upgrade from WCS 7.0 to Prime Infrastructure 1.2.
I was reading and i need to upgrade to the NCS 1.1 before to go to prime infrastructure 1.2.
I will need license to NCS 1.1 before upgrade to infraesctructure 1.2 ?
Will i have some problem with this upgrade ?
Can someone pass me the correct process for not have any problem with this upgrade ?
Thank You.

Just to add...
Leo like to tease people with new stuff
That is the correct path though. You will have to be first on 7.0.220.0 if your planning on exporting and importing the day from WCS to NCS 1.1. From there you will upgrade to Prime 1.2 and then you can upgrade to Prime 2.0 whenever it comes out. I would build the NCS server with the specs for Prime though.
Just follow the configuration guide for WCS to NCS and then follow this for NCS to Prime
https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-26972
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Migration WCS to Prime 2.2

Hi,
A Customer of mine has three instances of WCS he wants to upgrade to Prime 2.2.
Regarding the upgrade path there are several steps. If we have to follow this path three times
this takes at least three days of work.
I wonder if there is a way to rehost the WCS licenses to Prime 2.2.
Another question is, if the maps exported out of WCS contain the AP positions and if they
can be imported into Prime 2.2.
Regards,
Urs

Hi,tsgruu2000.
Sorry to say that you cannot rehost the WCS licences to Prime 2.2. You need to purchase new license for the Prime once you upgrade it. For further assistance kindly email me directly at ([email protected])
Happy to Serve!
Barry

Upgrade questions about Prime Infrastructure 1.1.1.24 to 1.3

               My existing NCS is installed with the small deployment and I'll have a total of 94 AP's but we are installing a new data center and replacing the existing 2 WISM blades for 2 new 5508 WLCs and added 20 more AP'S which will total 114 AP's and 4 controllers. The old WISMs blades and new 5508s will be up together until we migrate exisitng AP's to the new 5508s, so do I need to install the medium deployment since Table for Scaling Prime Infrastructure states:
Medium: 500 Total. The mix of devices may included up to:
     Wired devices: 300
     Controllers: 5
     Autonomous AP's: 300
     Unified AP's: 300
Small Deployments are for a total of 250 devices "with up to" 100 Unified AP's and 2 controllers??
Also as part of the download of software for PI 1.3 it   includes Automated Deployment Gateway is this a required piece to install for PI?? We don't use Cisco works so I'm not installing the LMS piece.
thank you,
Sandra

Isn't it rediculous the message says:::
Error(s): You must correct the following error(s) before proceeding:
Error:Unknown Exception Occurred. If the problem persists send logs to Tech Support.
And the fix is to use a different browser?
BTW:: Good Idea to try a different browser. By the looks of the Error Msg, it just didn't look like a browser issue to me so I didn't think to do that but certainly will next time on this and probably many, many, many other issues I see-
We only spent about an hour chasing our tails around to see what the issue was.
Again good catch!
I was speaking w/ another customer today who mentioned if the application were re-written to use HTML 5 these type problems would go away.
Oh well.
Glad I could help you get all the way upgraded and all the way up and running and able to push templates to your lightweight APs.
Cya

LMS 4.1 (Windows) & NCS 1.1 (VM) Upgrade to Cisco Prime Infrastructure 1.2

Hi All,
Im getting a bit confused about the whole upgrade migration process for the following config to Cisco Prime Infrastructure:
LMS - Version 4.1 , 500 devices. Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard SP1
NCS – version 1.1 , 50 devices Red Hat Linux ( 64 Bit) (Installation software - NCS-VA-1.0.1.4-small.ova)
I want to be able to backup databases and migrate licensing from LMS and NCS to one platform. Does anyone have experience of this and could possible guide me thorugh this process. LMS has SAS and NCS has SAU.
Help will be very much appreciated!!

It's a couple of steps but can be done. You may want to reconsider getting off of LMS since the latest Prime Infrastructure (PI 1.2) does not have full feature compatibility with the latest LMS (4.2.3). Have a look here for the comparison.
If you still want to do it:
1. Upgrade your NCS to PI 1.2 (instructions). If you're going with a total of 550 devices on a combined license you should use the medium ova file to get the correct server resource allocation. You will need to get the new license from the TAC or via the licensing portal. I'm not sure if you can get the PI license for your LMS upgrade directly via the portal but you do have the entitlement for LMS 4.2 and PI 1.2 (combined licenses not to exceed the original LMS number) if your SAS is current. You may need to contact the TAC and ask for the licensing team.
2. Upgrade your LMS to 4.2 and patch it to 4.2.2 (instructions). Once you've done that, there is a simple menu command to export your device credentials to Prime (Admin, System, Export Data to PI in LMS and then Operation, Device Work Center, Bulk Import in PI - instruction on Page 18 here). Do that and then in the new PI installation import the devices.
Verify everything is working and you can decommission the LMS server.

Upgrading WCS with RH5.x - do I have the correct files

Hi All,
My supplier seems to be just as ignorant as me regarding the following:
I have a disc labelled 'WCS-WLSEU-RH5-Upgrade.iso' - will I be able to upgrade my WCS' OS (running on RH4 on a WLSE appliance) with this disc, or is it actually for converting a WLSE to WCS (and our supplier has given me the wrong thing- which is what I am afraid of)?
Many Thanks for any help you can give,
Scott

Hi
The image that you have will upgrade the operating system to red hat 5.0. This version is a requeriment if you want to use WCS 5.0 and higher.
You have to burn the image in a CD and boot with this CD in order to perform the upgrade.
Where do you find this image, I have been searching it in the cisco web site but i can`t find it.
Would you mind telling me , where is located this iso file?
Thanks in advanced

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