Uploaded jpegs Lose White Balance on website

I just shot a bunch of real estate house photos and uploaded them to our web site and some of the white balance settings seem to have gotten lost. All the other edits are fine.
Olympus E330 shot in RAW and most used the auto white balance button in LR. They all look fine, even the thumbnail in the upload page.
"Kitchen" at the end is the worst, I tried uploading several times and made sure it was at the final size too:
http://www.bevwaring.com/Listing/ViewListingPhotos.aspx?ListingID=1070576&ShowCompact=Fals e&Preview=False&zoom=22
I have basic Spyder 2 on an LCD.

Compared to the FLikr one I do see a green cast to the Web gallery one. Not nowing that the laminate wasn't greenish original would have helped.
But then my laptop is un color managed.
Don
Don Ricklin, MacBook 1.83Ghz Duo 2 Core running 10.4.9 & Win XP, Pentax *ist D
http://donricklin.blogspot.com/

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JPEG and White Balance

When Aperture imports JPEGs it offers the same white balance options as it does for RAW files.
My understandiing from using Lightroom which does not use temperature in it's white balance Develop module for JPEGs, is that there is no data associated with a JPEG that tells the program where to start with white balance.
I'm curious as to what assumptions Aperture makes with regard to white balance when importing JPEGs and what goes on in the background as you change the temperature with a JPEG.
Thank you.

Aperture assigns a temperature of 5000k to all jpg and tif files.
I don't know what goes on in the background but the temperature changes are useful, if not correct.
Cheers,
Terry

How to apply white balance from jpeg to raw version

I always shoot in RAW + jpeg format. Many times the jpeg will work fine and I still have the RAW if I want to take the time to tweak things a bit more.
But sometimes the jpeg stumbles on a white balance that works well for a particular image. If I want to apply that same balance to the RAW version, I would like to be able to read what that color balance setting (in K degrees I assume) is so I can copy it.
Is there a way to find that info somewhere? The exif will only give you the name of the setting (Flash, Auto, Cloudy, whatever...) but not the numerical info needed to apply it in Aperture's White balance adjustment.
I use a Nikon D600.
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Bo

OK, progress!
I found out from Iliah Borg on the dpreview.com forum that the utility ExifTool (or its GUI version pyExifToolGUI) will provide the R, B, G1 and G2 values for the white balance setting. They are provided as multipliers or absolute vaules. Example:
WB RB Levels : 1.51953125 1.8515625 1 1
WB GRBG Levels : 256 389 474 256
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Canon EOS 550D JPEGs don't show white balance EXIF info in Aperture

I have 23,000 photos in my iPhoto library which I would eventually like to transfer to Aperture. I've experimented with importing just a few photos from iPhoto so that I can practise using Aperture before I go over to it completely, but have a problem in that the white balance info for JPEGs is not copying over with the rest of the metadata. The white balance column in the Info pane is empty and there are no 'cloud' or 'sun' symbols at the top right of the Info pane beside the word JPEG. The white balance info for RAW photos, however, copies over fine.
I have performed Aperture Library First Aid (repaired permissions and database, and rebuilt database) but the problem still exists. I have also created a new Aperture library and then imported some original photos from iPhoto which I exported to the desktop and then into the new Aperture library. I had the same problem, with no white balance information showing.
This question is being re-posted in a slightly different form from a similar one I asked yesterday, because it has been suggested to me that it may be a problem peculiar to Canon EOS 550D users. Has any other Canon EOS 550D user come across this problem, or can anyone suggest a remedy please? I am using the latest versions of Aperture 3 and iPhoto '11.

Hello Ernie
I think you've pinpointed the nub of the problem. As I was only trying out Aperture, I thought the best thing to do would be to import just a few photos from iPhoto and have a play, so I went to the Import button in the Toolbar and imported them from my iPhoto library individually. After reading your advice I have just changed libraries and opened the iPhoto library in Aperture and the white balance information is now showing. I can't really see what the difference is between the two, I would have thought the white balance information would show whichever way I looked at the photos but I don't care, because you have solved it for me. Thank you so much for your time. So many people have tried to help me and I'm most grateful to the Apple Support community!

Bridge CS5 applies wrong white balance during thumbnail extraction (raw files only)

Hello to all Adobe Wizards,
Hobbiest photographer here. I use a Canon T2i and I have been shooting raw with auto white balance.
After I upload the CR2 files to Bridge, Bridge begins thumbnail extraction. This is when the problem begins: I watch Bridge extracting thumbnail photo after photo, turning them into wrong white balance one by one. After Bridge is done, I open one of these photos in Camera Raw, it shows the photo in "custom white balance". I was able to change it back to "As Shot". But every photo in Bridge now has custom white balance and is difficult to view in Bridge. This screenshot shows what my Bridge looks like after thumbnail extraction....
Yesterday, just out of curiosity, I took some photos with different white balance settings on the camera. I uploaded them to Bridge and Bridge over-wrote all the white balance settings. I then imported the same photos (from the same files) to iPhoto, they show up with correct write balance. Please see the second screenshot.
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Again, this only happens to CR2 files. All tif, jpeg files are fine.
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Any ideas?
First of all, shooting Raw has the benefit of changing the color temperature (Whit Balance) to what ever you like from whatever you shot in camera.
To me it seems you once have saved a custom white balance as default setting and this is been applied to every new file because you told Bridge to do so. The easiest way to get out of this is open a raw file in ACR and in the basic tab at the right side you see a small icon for sub menu (next to the word basic). Click on it and from the row choose 'Reset Camera Raw defaults' at the bottom.
Also decide whether you want to stay in 16 bit mode (as you are now as shown in the blue line under the preview). If you want to chance it back to 8 bit just click on that blue line and choose your options from that menu. You only have to do this once for the files from that same camera, ACR remembers the settings for you.
Using 16 bit mode has advantages when using critical color corrections (but then you also should change the color mode to ProPhoto in my opinion). The disadvantage is that 16 bit doubles the file size compared to 8 bit
Having set the ACR defaults should effect your thumbs immediately by building new thumbs and previews but if not you must choose purge cache for folder from the menu tools / cache/ purge cache for folder. Now the new settings will be applied.
It may take some time so let Bridge do its work properly before starting other jobs in Bridge (see the activity bar bottom left to check if Bridge is still caching).

How can I turn off Automatic White Balance/Correction?

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Hal,
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Losing Custom White Balance

I wasn't sure where to post this, so I'm starting here.
I've been having an issue with RAW (actually Nikon .NEF) files containing custom white balances and software on my Mac. I shoot Infrared images with the white balance set to make the green foliage go white, making the sky go kind of coppery. When I look at the thumbnails of these files in either the Finder, Photoshop (CS2, CS3), iPhoto (07 and 08), Nikon View, or Adobe Lightroom they look correct. As soon as I want to edit them, they lose the white balance I set in favor of looking black and red (what the camera actually "saw") and there's no way I've found to get the custom white balance back.
I tried it on a friend's PC laptop using the free version of Nikon View and it worked like it should. I was able to save the images as TIFFs and open them on my Mac.
Anyone else ever seen this occur or have any suggestions?

What you're seeing in the thumbnails are actually jpeg previews of the files based on what the finder imagines the file ought to look like not the contents of the files themselves.
When you open the file for the first time you see the RAW file without any adjustments. Depending on what software you use the settings may or may not be maintained on subsequent opens.
You need to make your RAW adjustments and then export the file as a TIFF/JPEG or just keep it RAW.
Check out the Aperture and iPhoto forums for more info.
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I was in Rome this weekend snapping photographs in JPEG format. I then changed my camera settings to snap in RAW format whilst trying to capture the Pantheon at night, knowing I would be able to play about with the white balance and exposure in Lr upon returning. I have uploaded the photograph into Lr 5, but when I click on the Lr White Balance drop down menu it only gives me three options: 'As Shot', 'Auto' & 'Custom'. Can anyone tell me why I do not get the extended drop down menu containing White Balance settings such as 'Daylight', 'Cloudy', 'Shade'...ect.?
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I have the new Nokia Lumia 1020. Unfortunately, every time I take a photo with the flash, it gives a yellow tint; the white balance is WAY off. I called support and Nokia Support said to swap the phone, which I did at AT&T. The 2nd phone has the same issue. I searched online, and several others are having the same problem.
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yep suffering from this too and there are quite a few threads popping up on the net about the issue too
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3522759
http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-1020/243559-not-so-happy-my-purchase.html
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/08/14/lumia-1020-white-balance-issues-bring-yellow-tinged-photos-t...
these are just the top hits on google and this is without the threads on your wn discussion board on this very website :-/
now i love my 1020 just like i loved my nokia 808 but there is defo something wrong with the settings and jpeg processing on the 1020
on one of the forums i use a users examined the exif data of a yellow tinted image and the shutter speed was really slow and the iso really high , i think this is where the problem lies , on an xenon flash shot why is the phone choosing a very high iso and very slow shutter speed surely this will lead to polloution of the picture from other light sources hence the orange/yellow glow/tint to many pictures taken under ''fake'' lighting
In auto mode even with flash on, shutter speed is always 1/30 and ISO is pretty high (1000 or above). I don't know why these settings are this way with flash in Auto, but that seems to be the reason for the yellow tint.
a user has come up with a fix which is
Try this: force flash on and then either set ISO to 400 or a fixed shutter speed of 1/100 or even faster. I noticed that the flash fires shorter and brighter that way. Surprise: yellow tint is gone.
so as you can see the camera is simply selecting the wrong settings for the scene , why an earth is the camera selecting such a high iso and slow shutter speed for an xenon lit shot , surely thats ridiculous , it seems it to me
nokia please can you look into this asap
according to your response in this thread you have been aware of this for a while now and i know software can be very complex but this is something that needs to be fixed and is causing a lot of people hassle with the ''best camera phone'' the world has seen
i am sure it can be fixed easily via software and i look forwards to an update or resapinse from nokia about the issue
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White balance field to metadata panel

There's a lot of info available in the metadata/EXIF panel but the preset/program used for white balance is missing, eg. Auto, Cloudy, Tungsten, Custom, etc. Interestingly though, LR can read the actual values in the Develop module, unless I'm wrong and it is actually working it out, not reading it.

Is there any way to get detailed info of White Balance setting in Bridge Metadata ? I'm getting only "custom" ; my instructor in College needs more detailed data in my contact sheets.
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You can't get this info in a contact sheet, neither is it easy to get other then look at the camera setting you have used to shoot the files. Maybe it is somewhere hidden deep down in the exif data but I can't find it with exact numbers.
Shooting Raw those WB figures are irrelevant because you can set color temperature and tint to whatever you like. Shooting jpeg your options are limited because of the fact the Raw data is already processed and changing temperature and tint effects the whole image.
Try shoot a Raw and jpeg together from the same scene. One with daylight and one with artificial light conditions. (personally I have set my WB in camera fixed at 5500 but with auto settings you can also see the difference) Try to correct the jpeg and the Raw file in ACR and see what I mean.
And to be honest, if your instructor at College would like to have this he also should tell you why he wants it and how you can deliver it...

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Is there any way to get detailed info of White Balance setting in Bridge Metadata ? I'm getting only "custom" ; my instructor in College needs more detailed data in my contact sheets.
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Is there any way to get detailed info of White Balance setting in Bridge Metadata ? I'm getting only "custom" ; my instructor in College needs more detailed data in my contact sheets.
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You can't get this info in a contact sheet, neither is it easy to get other then look at the camera setting you have used to shoot the files. Maybe it is somewhere hidden deep down in the exif data but I can't find it with exact numbers.
Shooting Raw those WB figures are irrelevant because you can set color temperature and tint to whatever you like. Shooting jpeg your options are limited because of the fact the Raw data is already processed and changing temperature and tint effects the whole image.
Try shoot a Raw and jpeg together from the same scene. One with daylight and one with artificial light conditions. (personally I have set my WB in camera fixed at 5500 but with auto settings you can also see the difference) Try to correct the jpeg and the Raw file in ACR and see what I mean.
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White balance settings always display 5000K 0 Tint

Been searching on this, found a few things, but nothing helpful.
In the past few weeks, it appears that Aperture is no longer interpreting my cameras white balance settings properly. The colors themselves are fine, however, the adjustment applet always shows 5000k with 0 tint. I'm not quite sure when this started, but it's quite frustrating. This appears to be happening on everything newly imported. (I can only verify JPG at the moment, as I'm seeing this on a Canon S95 and 60D, which both don't have RAW support yet in Aperture).
Anyone ever see this happen, or no of a solution? I'm using Aperture 3, latest updates etc. on OS X 10.6.4. My older files all appear fine, it's just these recents, from these two cameras. Unfortunately, I've sold my other gear, and don't have an older cam around to test. Either way, other products, Adobe, seem to be reading things properly.
Thanks for any input.

So all these files are JPEGs?
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I thought I was doing everything right with the holiday family shots: shot RAW, then corrected white balance as needed (often, cool them down slightly) in LR3.3 Develop. A test print (color managed by LR) on my home inkjet looked just like on-screen, color-temp wise. Then, to crank out a stack of 4x6s for family, I Exported jpgs (sharpened for glossy), and uploaded to Shutterfly (actually, Published them using a 3rd-party add-on). The resulting prints from the lab are MUCH warmer than the test prints or screen.
OK, ok, you get what you pay for. But...before I blame one vendor and start trying others: is this Shutterfly et al applying their own corrections? Or is there something I'm overlooking in the Export/Publish stage? TIFF vs JPGs?
This is NOT another "why aren't my prints like the screen" thread -- stuff is calibrated and my prints at home DO look like the on-screen image, thank you.
TIA

Short answer: click lift tool, click photo to transfer from, uncheck adjustments you don't want stamped, click photo to transfer to.
Longer answer:
1. Click the lift tool
2. Hover over a shot you want to copy anything from, and the cursor changes to an upward arrow. Click on the shot.
3. The cursor now changes to a down arrow when over any picture, indicating that Stamp is active. Uncheck any adjustments or other info you do NOT want to stamp, and click on the photo. Checked adjustments will be stamped.
Make sure you choose Add or Replace in the popup to add or replace the adjustments you're stamping (this setting is usually only relevant to metadata for me).
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I have the plugin for RAW to use with Photoshop Elements 5.0 but there doesn't seem to be a way to correct a whole group of photos in raw for white balance or some other correction in a batch. Maybe I'm missing something or maybe this can't be done in Elements.

Elements doesn't have the ability to Batch Process RAW files like you want.
You could make a Batch Conversion to JPEGS, PSD or TIF but each image gets the same default adjustments. I think you could save a new default with your adjustments and then this would get applied in the process. You'd need to remember to go back the Camera Defaults afterwards.
The only other thing available is the Previous Conversion feature but this still means processing the images one by one.
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Hi folks. Wonder if someone has had a similar issue and/or has any insights.
Here's the background:
- Aperture 2.1.2 on OS 10.4.11
- Downloaded/installed Raw Update 2.3
- Imported ~800 NEFs from a D90
- On ~15-20 NEFs, pictures show up blue (white balance at ~2500)
- The affected NEFs are semi-randomly distributed among the ~800
Here's why it's weird:
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If I delete the NEFs from Aperture, close down, and repeat I get the exact same problem on the exact same NEFs. This leads me to believe that there's something specific to the NEFs but it must also be linked to Aperture and more specifically, it's thumbnail/preview process since they show up fine in Nikon View, the finder and Aperture before the thumbnail/preview processing takes place.
Obviously I can't downgrade to Raw Converter 2.1 or 2.2 since my files are from a D90, and I shoot in raw (not raw + jpeg) only so have been limping along with Nikon's software.
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Hi,
I simply can't see the NEFs.
OS X 10.5.5
Aperture 2.1.2
Nikon D90
Import runs fine, and the thumbs are there, but when opening a NEF a big thumb (7x4.5cm on the 24" screen) is displayed in the middle for a second, and then it turns into a dark red message "Unsupported Image Format".
It's general - no NEFs work for me.
I import directly into Aperture - do you import via the Nikon Software?
Previously I had an Olympus E400 - the RAWs worked fine in Aperture (directly imported).
My strange observations are:
With the Olympus E400 (10MB) the size of the JPG files were 6-7MB and the RAW files (called .ORF) were 21MB.
With the Nikon D90 (12.3MB) the size of the JPGs are around 6.5MB (4288x2848 pixels), but the size of the NEFs are just around 11MB (I did expect over 21MB) and the pixels are 256x170 (although the picture says 4288x2848 on the camera itself).
I'm new to this support site - do Apple supporters take time to read our questions and join these discussions?

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