Upscaling question. 720p to 1080p

ok guys i never upscale because i normally always shoot at 1080p
but i have to upscale some 720p to 1080 now and whats the best way to do it - what software? im guessing its not a case of just importing 720p footage into a 1080p timeline and scaling it up? what software or plugin or settings in after effects do people use to keep the quality okay on upscaling?
cheers
Andy

RedGiant's Instant HD does a good job at upscaling. See http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/magic-bullet-instant-hd/

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720p to 1080p

Hey Final Cut Pronines,
I shot a few videos using Panasonic AGHVX 200...I used two different formats: DVCPRO HD 720p60 and DVCPRO HD 1080i60..... My client wants the output in 1080p24....
Now I have two questions to ask:
1. Which out of the two formats will give a better quality output when converted to 1080p24?
2. What is the quality loss when we res up 720p to 1080p?
Thanks a lot!

RedGiant's Instant HD does a good job at upscaling. See http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/magic-bullet-instant-hd/

Choosing between 720p and 1080p on Mini connected to Sony HDTV (1920x1080)

I have a late 2009 Mac Mini and a SONY HDTV and had no difficulties at all in hooking them up. I just connected the Mini Display Port to DVI connector which ships with the MAC Mini to a Belkin DVI to HDMI cable (also available from Apple Store) and connected the HDMI to my TV. I switched on the TV, selected the correct HDMI input, then switched on the Mac Mini and could see the picture immediately. I was missing the menu bar at the top so went to SYSTEM PREFERENCES and then DISPLAYS and the OPTIONS tab, and unselected OVERSCAN, and that gave me a perfect picture (slightly smaller than full screen but perfectly adequate as far as I'm concerned).
By default my resoluton was set at 1080p (presumably the Mac detected that the native resolution of my TV is 1080p). The DISPLAYS box shows a number of resolution with a little TV screen icon beside them, as if suggesting those resolutions for use with the Sony. It shows 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p. There are also lots of others without TV icons beside them.
The only problem I found is that 1080p made it quite difficult to read text on my screen, even though it's not very far away from the sofa. My eyesight is very good but I couldn't read the screen comfortably when surfing the net or even when changing settings etc. I swiiched, therefore, to 720p and this produces a very comfortable size of text for using the MAC.
My question is whether it really makes such a big difference whether one chooses 720p or 1080p, as I really can't see much difference for playback of video from Hulu or other streaming websites. Even when I played a DVD movie from the Mac Mini superdrive, the difference in quality was hard to detect. I guess if I tried viewing Full 1080p HD material, there would be some difference, but how much of such material is available on the net anyway? I take it that switching between 720p and 1080p wouldn't cause any harm, if I chose to do so occasionally for watching any Full HD movies that I rip?
Look forward to hearing views!

Hi- I also picked up a mini a week ago, and have it hooked up to my Sony HDTV via HDMI, just as you. The same thing happened the first time I connected the mini to my tv- with overscan on, the top and bottom of the screen were cut off.
The solution is to pick up your Sony remote, go to the onscreen menus, and make sure that 'full pixels' option is selected. When you do, the screen will be absolutely perfectly aligned.
I mention this because while in overscan mode, I find that the Sony makes an absolutely beautiful screen, and text is quite easy to read, albeit a bit small.

Is hardware upscaling 480i SD to 1080p too much of an upscale?

Is upscaling from 480i to 1080p way too much of an upscale?
I tried upscaling some old newsreel footage from 480i to 1080p, and the upscaled footage looks more more interlaced than the original SD footage. I notice I did not have this problem when upconverting to 720p.
Please see these (720p and 1080p MXO2 upscaled versions) of 480i SD footage taken from my FCP viewer window:
http://gallery.me.com/nicholasnatteau#100339
I wanted to upconvert from 480 to 1080 for a 720 timeline for the following reason:
I was told that if I wanted to scale up my 4:3 footage to fit into a 16:9 frame (without distorting the image horizontally), it would be better to upconvert all the way to 1080 via my Matrox MXO2 and then downsize the 1080 4:3 upscaled footage to 67% which would make it fit into a 720p 16:9 timeline without having to use FCP to upscale.

But here's my problem. I plan to use a good number of animated charts and maps and many graphics in my film as well. I thought my graphics and animated maps would look even better in 1080p than in 720p.
OK...but what is your final sequence going to be? 720? You seem to be alluding to that as you talk about upconverting to 1080 then down to 720. So if your sequence is 720, how on earth will your graphics look better at 1080? Sure, they might, but then you are putting them in a 720p sequence? So your logic there escapes me.
Pardon...I'm getting snarky. But if your goal is 720p, why are you even THINKING about 1080? Put it out of your mind unless you want to deliver 1080. If you are going to 1080, why did you mention 720? You are really confusing me.
What I don't understand is my upconverted 480i footage looks so much worse when upconverted to 1080p than to 720p.
YOu don't? You don't understand that going to 720p is less of a blow up than going to 1080? You are blowing it up another 50% or more...so it will look a tad worse. But what gets me is that you aren't viewing ANY of this on an external broadcast HD monitor, or even a good HDTV. You are judging the quality of the blow up on your COMPUTER monitors, which is the LAST place you judge quality. Absolute last.
That's why I was very interested to know how things worked out for you when you upscaled your footage from SD to HD for Nat Geo? Did you upscale to 1080p or 1080i?
1080i, because our delivery spec required a 1080i 29.97 HDCAM SR master. So going from 480i to 1080i was easy.
since 1080p is progressive like 720p. Why am I seeing terrible interlacing on my computer monitor when I upscale to 1080p but not when I upscale to 720p?
Because you aren't viewing the footage properly...judging on a proper monitor. Without that you can't make any critical assessment of your footage.
But I understand that a computer monitor cannot be used to judge the picture.
You understand that, yet keep doing it...I find that a tad baffling.
If my destination is 1080p, why is there interlacing going on?
The source footage is interlaced. Unless you DE-INTERLACE it, it will be interlaced. There is a filter for that. You need to also make sure that your FIELD ORDER is set to NONE in the sequence settings.
OK...BACK UP. Start from the beginning. The bulk of your footage...what is it? 1080p? 720p? What codec? What is the FINAL HD OUTPUT MASTER that you are trying to achieve? 1080? 720? Output to what? What settings are you trying to work in? Because you are throwing out 1080p as a master, but then also 720p...so you are confusing not only yourself, but me as well.
Shane

Are you seeing a colour shift in 720p and 1080p h.264 slideshow exports?

When I export video from Lightroom 3 (or 3.2), I see that 720p and 1080p output can be very different in colour from other resolutions. It's as if my display profile were being ignored when playing back those particular resolutions.
Playback client: Apple's QuickTime Player X on Mac OS X 10.6.4. If I use VLC or QuickTime Player 7, colour is consistent across all export resolutions but is consistently wrong compared with the original photographs. (Again, it's as if the ICC display profile is being ignored.)
Display profile: my display is profiled and the profile is an ICC v4 file but I can reproduce the issue with some v2 profiles, as well.
AVC vs h.264
One oddity (that might be a peculiarity of QuickTime Player) is that when I view the 720p and 1080p movies, and ask for information about codecs (command-i), QuickTime Player X tells me that these two movies use AVC encoding. For all the other sizes, it says claims h.264. My understanding is that these two are effectively the same thing; on the other hand, it's curious that the two sizes showing different colour from the rest are identified differently. And QuickTime Player 7 claims AVC for all resolutions and always gets the colour wrong.
Is this just a QuickTime Player X bug? It gets colour right for all resolutions except 720p and 1080p, and provides a clue by saying the movie uses the AVC codec? Or is this an encoding issue?
Other sizes are fine
Exporting and playing back any other h.264 movie size, from 320 pixels right up to 960 pixels, provides perfectly acceptable colour in QuickTime Player X .There's a slight shift compared with the originals but nothing dramatic, and it's consistent across different sizes.
Any thoughts? Can you reproduce the problem?
I've tested this on a bunch of different Macs but they're all running 10.6.4. Can anyone see this problem? Would anyone like to test on Windows and report back? The results seem to vary wildly depending on your display profile and how far it is from a canned profile so if you really want to be sure of seeing the differences, switch your display to "Wide Gamut RGB" for the playback test, then compare the 720p/1080p files with the rest, including the sRGB reference.
Would anyone like to tell me I'm being a complete idiot and overlooking something blindingly obvious? I won't be upset.
I was just about to post a note on the blog but thought I'd better post something here first. I'll probably ask readers to provide feedback here rather than on the site. I get the feeling that this issue won't be a big deal for most people.
Some examples for download
I have a zipped collection of single-image slideshows generated by Lightroom at each available resolution, together with a 960-pixel JPEG (sRGB) of that same image to act as a reference. You can download it here (5.9MB). For the moment, you'll probably have to ignore the URL that you see in the slideshows and in the Read Me file—it points to the blog post that I was preparing but which I haven't yet published. I'll do that next so anyone reading the blog will come here and post.
Thanks in advance, and apologies if I'm being dumb about something.
Update
I've added a 720x480 file that shows the same problem and updated the URLs shown in the movies and the Read Me file.
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Bahi,
just to illustrate what mess this is, I tested for you on Leopard (10.5) and Snow Leopard (10.6) using the same wide gamut monitor. Here are two screenshots from that experiment. I converted the screenshots from my display profile to sRGB to show you what I see and scaled down 50% (this is a 30" behemoth). First Leopard.
You see they are all the same, but different from the sRGB export you provided. The GB sticker is too blue and the tint on the car is wrong. I doubt anybody but a photographer would notice though.
Next is Snow Leopard:
Here the 320 pixel, the 480 pixel and the 960 pixel image are different from the 720 pixel, the 720p and the 1080p ones. Neither is strictly correct as they are all different from the sRGB display. This is consistent with their being no real color management, just gamma corrections and color space transforms (video is usually not stored as RGB but as YUV, necessitating a transform for display). Annoying, but not much you can do about it.
Just doing some quick googling I came across many mentions of issues such as this. It clearly is just a big mess.

I can't export my video in 720p or 1080p.

It only allows for 480p. I used a Canon 60D camera and Sony HD Camcorder.. It allows me to export my videos in iMovie ok. If I were to export a part of my video in the event library it works. When I try and export the entire project, it doesn't. See the pictures.In this picture I have a part of the movie slected in the "EVENT LIBRARY"
I go to "SHARE" it and it does indeed allow for 1080p. (1920x1080)
But when I click on my project I edited, and only allows it to be "SHARED" at 480p (960x540)

And I cant "SHARE" in 720p nor 1080p. I can't even click on it.

I want to buy Tron:Legacy on the iTunes store, what I'm wondering is what HD resolution am I buying (I.e 720p or 1080p)

Is my download 720P or 1080P? I'd really like a 1080P download.

The Apple Support said that we can request this item to the Apple iTunes team. If they like our feedback/comments, then they will approach the studio and hopefully then the 1080p would be made available for download. However, I still do not know if purchasing the movie now, whether or not, the 1080p download would have to be repurchased again.

I make videos using my go pro hd camera, but when i export it only half of my 3 min video shows up with the audio playing in the background, plus when i try to select the quality in the export options it won't let me select 720p or 1080p?????? help!!!

i make videos using my go pro hd camera, but when i export it only half of my 3 min video shows up with the audio playing in the background, plus when i try to select the quality in the export options it won't let me select 720p or 1080p?????? help!!!

What you could do now is break up your video into smaller parts and render them out, then assemble them again as a whole.
I know this is not the best fix, but it might work.
You can duplicate an edit in the main screen, then delete the last bits and export,
do the same for the other half.
Then import the two bits (or more if you need) in a new edit.
Out of curiosity, can you post what format the video is in?
Copy a video straight from the camera to your computer.
Open it in Quicktime player, and with out playing type Apple + i
or Control + i for PCs
It should tell you lots of info about the video, and might help us to see what is wrong.
This is what it looks like:

Is it possible to download both 720p and 1080p versions of a movie?

Is it possible to download both 720p and 1080p versions of a movie purchased from iTunes and keep them both in your iTunes library? I want to watch the 1080p version on my 3rd gen Apple TV and the 720p version on my 4th gen iPod Touch?
So far, I have downloaded 720p versions and the only way I can get 1080p is to delete the 720p version I have and then redownload the 1080p from the cloud. I want to keep the 720p version and also have the 1080p version.

I ended up getting the proper response from iTunes Support. I forgot to share it with everyone else. Here is how you download both versions of the videos:
iTunes only lets you download one version of a video at a time. As a work around, I would like you to try the following:
- Download the 1080p version of the video first
- Then remove the 1080p version of the video from your iTunes library and save it somewhere else on your computer.
- Now that you have removed the 1080p version go to the iTunes > Preferences > Store
- Change the HD version "when downloading HD videos, prefer." to 720p
- Go to purchase page, the 720p version should download.

720p vs 1080p

I have an digital AV adaptor to connect ipad2 to TV and using it to watch videos stored in ipad2 on the fullHD TV. How to know if it is playing 720p or 1080p?
Some of the videos are shot using ipad2 itself and some of them are shot using sony full HD camera.

Movies always play at 720p according to the specifications of the AV Adapter: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC953ZM/A
Most TVs will show you on-screen what resolution the display is set at by pressing a button on the remote. Have a look in the TV manual for such a button.

Downloading HD 720p or 1080p?

I notice in iTunes that there is an option to download HD at 720p or 1080p. The default is 720p. I tried changing it to 1080p for the following reason: I almost never get HD anyway but when I do I want it to have the best possible quality. However, I got a warning that 1080p might not play on my iMac. I don't really care about the HD on my iMac anyway but I also play movies on a large flat panel TV connected to my iPad and I want that to have the highest possible quality. Usually I download to my iMac first and then synch to my iPad (iPad 1 running 5.1.1) but I'm worried that when I buy HD I may not be getting the best possible picture for the iPad/Flat Panel TV configuration.
Here is the info from my System Profiler Graphics/Displays on my iMac in case that is relevant:
ATI Radeon X1600:
Chipset Model:          ATY,RadeonX1600
Type:          GPU
Bus:          PCIe
PCIe Lane Width:          x16
VRAM (Total):          128 MB
Vendor:          ATI (0x1002)
Device ID:          0x71c5
Revision ID:          0x0000
EFI Driver Version:          01.00.068
Displays:
iMac:
Resolution:          1680 x 1050
Pixel Depth:          32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display:          Yes
Mirror:          Off
Online:          Yes
Built-In:          Yes

I would assume that the HD version is 720 only. Normally on shows with 720 and 1080, it will state that both versions are offered.

Why are Lightroom 4.1 Slideshow Module Export Video 720p and 1080p ending up as Interlaced Video?

In Lightroom 4.1 (Windows 7 64 bit) when I create a slideshow in the Slideshow Module, use Export Video 720p or 1080p, the properties of the export do not agree with the name of the preset suggesting a fundamental discrepancy in what is stated and what is.
The MediaInfo properties readout for this type of export is showing Scan Type = Interlaced and Scan Order = Top Field First. How is this possible for 720p and 1080p which are designations for progressive video (no Fields)? However, the readout will show the expected frame rates, 1280 x 720 or 1920 x 1080 for 720p and 1080p respectively.
I suspect that this is not a misread by MediaInfo since a Mac user shows the same "interlaced" & "upper field first" information using a Mac Video Specs application for the properties readout for the Slideshow Module Export Video 1080p.
ATR

The LR slideshow module has had problems since its initial introduction and the issues have not been fixed in LR4.1. There is also an issue of resample artifacts (jaggies) when using portrait orientaion images in a slideshow on Windows platforms.. See this thread:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3793720#3793720
Here's an excerpt from the above thread link:
LR has at least three different implementation versions, concerning this LR Slideshow Module behavior:
                         Stroke Border           Portrait Images
Mac OS:            Causes softness         OK (no resample artifacts)
Windows Vista: No issues                    Resample artifacts (jaggies)
Windows 7:        Causes softness         Resample artifacts (jaggies)

HD Version = 720p or 1080p

I'm about to purchase Grimm Season 1. I noticed that it mentions HD version but did not specify whether 720p or 1080p. For Game of Thrones, it did mention HD: Includes 720p, 1080p.
Any idea what definition is available for the HD version?

I would assume that the HD version is 720 only. Normally on shows with 720 and 1080, it will state that both versions are offered.

Video Upscaling Question

Before I decide to purchase the new aTV2 (I have an aTV1) I have a question about its use with a Marantz receiver that upscales all video sources to 1080p. Are there any known issues or problems using the aTV2 with its 720p output with this type of AV receiver? My Samsung HDTV is capable of managing all SD or HD inputs (altho the manual isn't clear as to how or when it upscales or downconverts, so this might be a separate problem I guess).

If your Marantz accepts 720p over HDMI and has HDCP, then any further upscaling is really down to the Marantz not the AppleTV 2.
If you have an AppleTV 1 and set the video output to 720p and that works via the Marantz I'd expect the 2nd generation to work similarly.
Remember no component video or analogue audio out on ATV 2.

EOS 5D MARK II, Best Codec, 720p or 1080p

Hello all
I am beginning to use my 5D Mark II not only for pictures but also for movies. I have gone and purchased a copy of FCE4.
Now I have a question, since the file that comes out of the camera is not very good for editing, which codec should I use to convert it?
Is it a good idea to stay in 720p instead of trying to go up to 1080p?
Is 1080p feasible in FCE as I only see 1080i?
Thanks for the help
Regards from Barcelona, Spain

Hello, and thank you for your reply
I am an amateur and I can not afford Final Cut Pro.
Answering your questions (the best I can) the 5D Mark II shoots in 1080p, 30fps, H.264 1920x1080
36,38 MBbit/s
I wonder which codec I should use and if the difference between 1080p and 720p is worth it.
I understand, maybe wrongly, that it is better 720p than 1080i.
Could you help me in this, please?

Upscaling question. 720p to 1080p

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