Urgent: Concurrent employment: Central Person VS Person ID

Hi gurus,
I need you help urgently. I have one question.
I am using concurrent employment.
To get the groups of PERNRs is it different to use Central Person (IT0001) or Person ID (IT0709)?
Or may I group the employees by both of them n the same manner?
Thank you a lot.
Vasco

Hi Vasco,
You need to enable CP through customizing in IMG and then it will creaate a CP for every Person ID in PA0709, so you only need to create the Person ID (and link PERNR's to it). You need Concurrent Employment enabled for this, although you probably know that if you know about PA0709.
Best regards,
Luke

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