URGENT - New business group

I created a new BG, and LE,SOB ETC...., but my operating unit is still under old BG.
CAN anyone help me out , how to c new BG

Hi,
Once you define the Business Group, you have to assign the Business Group to system profile values.
Profile values are:
1. HR: Business Group
2. HR: Security Profile
Then come back to HRMS responsibility and define the Operating unit. Now you can see your Operating Unit under your BG.
Please go through the 'Multi-Org Structure' document to get the clear idea about it.
Regards
Jhansi

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How to create a new business group in production instance?

Hi All
How can I create a new Business Group in Oracle Apps in a production Instance where there wont be any HRMS responsibility. Do I need to create a new Business Group through Inventory responsibility ? Any documents about this issue?
Thanks and Regards
M.A.Rahman

why do you need to create a new business group? To implement HR? If so, linking a HR responsibility to your user, is one of the few steps to go anyway.
How you did it on the test environment?
Why not link a hr resp to your user temporarily, and disable it later.
I'm always afraid to answer this kind of questions, since the real requirement is not described.

Define a new business group

My company has been divided into two so i would like to define a new business group for the sister company.
My question is in what ways will the defining of the new business group affect the creating of the new payroll and elements for the sister company.
Is it possible to use the same elements that were defined for the company initially or is it that i will have to define all the elements all over again for the sister company?
The reason why i am asking is because there will be no change in the allowance and/or deductions that will be performed on the emps that are in sister company and the actual company.
all comments are highly appreciated!

Hi,
Is your business already decided that you should go for a new BG for your sister company??
If you are planning to go for a new BG, then you have to do setup/implementation for your sister company from scratch.. You have to define all the elements all over again for the sister company.. It's to be treated as a different entity now as it is detached from Parent..and this is required for better reporting purpose..
Since you informed that your sister company is going to follow the same set of rules /approach like parent company, then why don't you keep both business in same umbrella ..I mean BG..
In this case your sister company implementation is going to be treated as a rollout or an extension to parent...
Now choice is yours to decide where you want to stand.. :)
It's indeed a nice question, please wait for few more suggestions from other Business Gurus.. :)
Regards,
S.P DASH

New Business Group in HR 11.5.7 FP.G.

New Business Group in HR 11.5.7 FP.G.
Hi all,
We have Oracle HR 11.5.7 (Family Pack G), SSHR 5.2, WorkFlow 2.6.0.
We currently have two different Business Groups for Country A (Main Banking Operations) and Country B (Banking Operations Abroad).The Human Resources Dept wants to create a New Business Group to hold information for an Insurance Company that belongs to the Group (base at Country A) but whose employees'(currently they are not held in Oracle HR) have different collective agreements and reporting structures.Also users of Insurance not to be able to see data from banking Operations, but some users in banking to be able to see all data.
Firstly, can anyone help us regarding the pros/flexibility and cons/limitations of creating a New Business Group for the purpose described above?
From the way I see it if we create a New Business Group we will have more overhead even if the Flexfield Structures will remain the same.If we use the existing Country A BG to hold this info we will have to change all responsibilities/users/ profiles to restrict access based on less clearly defined lines as opposed to a New BG.
If we will proceed with the creation of a New Business Group (Users requested for a new BG to be created) does anyone knows or have an implementation/priority step guide/plan for a new BG not limited just to the creation of the Organization details?
Does anyone have an indication as to the average time required to setup a new BG as described above with all related information completed(security/ responsibilities/Organizations/positions/jobs/locations/grades/ elements/element links/special info/etc)?
Lastly, we recently setup SSHR 5.2 for the purposes of Online Appraisal System for the BG of Country A-Main Banking Opreations. Is there any impact that we have to consider, regarding the new BG?
I hope someone can give me some feedback!
Thanking you in advance for your much appreciated help.
Best regards,
Elena

Dear 'thierry' and 'HCMgaclark'
Thanks a lot for your replies.
In case I convince Key Business users to use the existing BG is there an easy way to exclude these new employees from showing in all reporting unless we want to display them?
One reason that will cause us difficulties to do that is the fact that we are not using the Position/Organization Hierachies of the HR. instead we use an additional Organization Flexfield to hold a code that represents our organizational structure due to our Payroll links.
We use Discoverer 4.1.41.05 for reporting purposes. We created our own EUL and have 2 BUsiness Areas, one for each BG.Users connect as Super Users (Responsibility). If we add these employees in the existing BG, what worries me is that we have to specifically exclude from each report the new employees and structures while in some cases a user should be able to see both.
is there an easy way out of these problems?
If we eventually decide to use a separate BG does anyone knows or have an implementation/priority step guide/plan for a new BG not limited just to the creation of the Organization details?
Thanks a lot for your time and help.
Best regards,
Elena

Creating a NEW Business Group, NO Security Profile generated

Platform : R12 running on Linux86 --> FRESH install ( NOT Vision db )
Resp : Global HRMS Super User
Problem : No Security Profile generated for NEWLY created Business Group
After creating a NEW business group ( ie. BG1 )
I am able to see both BG1 and Setup Business Group ( I an view both Business Groups via Organization screen)
When I access the Security Profile screen using the same resp "Global HRMS Super User"...
I can ONLY see the default security profile ( Setup Business Group )...
I am NOT able to view the default security profile ( BG1 ) that should have been created when I created my new business group earlier.
NOTE : If I use the VISION db, and do the exact same thing... I can see both Security Profiles.. and both Business Groups.
If I use the FRESH db, I can see both Business Groups... BUT... only 1 Security Profile... ( Setup Business Group )
WHY ??
Someone please HELP !!
Thank-you
Charlie :)

hi charlie i tried the same in my vision instance, i am able to view my BG at the security profile level,
when you query the system profiles,have you enabled the display checkbox at the responsibility level and try, or create an new responsibility and try... let me know the navigation you done clearly,
Raj

ERROR :APP-PER-289381 While Creating New Business Group

Hello,
When i am creating new business group in new fresh implementation i am find this error.
APP-PER-289381: A business group with this name exists. Please enter a different name.
I have only Default business group: 'Setup Business group'
Please can any provide a solution for this.. Your early response will highly appreciated.
Thanks
Mohsin

Hi Mohsin,
whatever name you are trying just run the below query to check if it already exists or not.
select * from apps.per_business_groups where name = 'Give here the name you are tyring'
If this returns any row means name already exist in deed. You can rename the existing business group and then create new on. However, if name doesnt exist, wait for any other reply in the forum.
Thanks,
Avinash

How to go for multiple business group

Dear All.
This is a very common and perhaps very old question now. But I just want to check what is the common process to go through to achieve multiple business groups. We are in oracle 12.1.XX and have single business group but now looking to implement more business group for other countries in same instance. I understand most of the objects would be same and they can be reused like DFF, Locations, Lookups, Value set etc but need to focus more on RICEW components. May I request you to please share your experience on this and let me what are the mandatory steps we need to follow, like running some seeded programs, restructuring other objects, creating seprate DFF, Valueset etc.
Thank you in advance (But that dosent mean I will not thank you later on )
Avinash

Hi Vignesh,
Thanks again for your quick response..
We are not migrating employee records.. we have one business group already and we want to create new business group for newly aquired company which is in other legislation. So just want to know what would be impact on existing BG and what are the objects we can reuse. For example we need to create New responsibilities, Menu, functions, job, position, person type etc.. Similarly we can use existing location, valuesets from existing BG in our new BG. Like this we want to create a list first so that we can plan our implimanation and come up with timeline..
I hope it is clear now.
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Changing Owner & Business Group of ASD Custom Resource

So this is a bit of an expansion of this discussion: https://communities.vmware.com/thread/500669?start=0&tstart=0
You will see that pizzle85 managed to solve his challenge of BG object ownership by using an ASD Service Catalog Request located in each Business Group's Entitlements so a member of the business group can just run the Provision required to bring the BG item under management in the business group. This is quite an effective method to solve the need. He then has a Resource Action that allows for re-"Provision" which changes owner within the business group: a necessary task because managers tend to move around a lot so they can look busy. (just kidding, I love managers--who have a sense of humor) So to change owner... just perform a "provision" again.
Apparently this is one of the best kept secrets in vRA because it has been hard to figure out, and nobody is writing about it. (I can only assume that there is some SE out there who has worked with the developers to get this capability going and it hasn't been shared widely.)
Note: I think Business Groups as a Service is something I need to plan for (vs centrally managed Business Groups) even though their future implementation might vary, so my examples here are related to that effort because I am too lazy to demonstrate a generic example. BUT... the idea is... ownership of ASD Inventory Objects (representing ANY Custom Resource) can be modified using this method. Ownership includes both the owner represented by "ME" in the Items list... and the Business Group (subtenant Reference & Label) where the item resides in inventory.
In 6.2.x, I have not found any method in the vRO plugin for vRA to be able to change ownership and business group of an ASD Custom Resource Inventory Item, but it can be accomplished via a combination of (1) ASD Service Catalog or Resource Action "Provision" capabilities and (2) REST calls through the vRA plugin service channels. (the latter uses the plugin service account authorizations/entitlements)
Consider this image...
This could represent a central management point for many business groups: where I can assign a set of resource actions allowing for automation of various business group needs, an anchor point for actions. Those in the sktest business group Support User or Manager Role would be able to see all the business groups globally if they were all provisioned in sktest. (a bucket to manage from)
This also could represent a starting point where business groups are created as real objects, returned as custom resources, and "provisioned" as inventory object items. But once there...maybe you want to move it?
Let's say we later decided, seantesting doesn't belong in sktest because we wanted to change from the "we manage it for you" model to the "manage it yourself" model. How do you move it?
Like this...
And it moves now owned by the vRA plugin service account... (which an entitled user could run Take Ownership and own it in that business group)
The service account obviously needs to be part of the destination business group and as it ends up, has to have an entitlement to any "provision" action in the business group even though the object doesn't exist there.
This is a tricky hack and this is how it works...
1. vRO workflow calls the Take Ownership Action in vRA via REST (front door process). As noted before, this has a provision attribute to the action which we know changes the owner. So we would expect that the owner would change to the user that is making the request: which is the service account. The service account becomes the owner, but this wouldn't change the Business Group.
2. So we change subtentantRef and subtenantLabel in the REST call to the business group we want to target, even though the object isn't in inventory in that business group. And Voila! The business group item representation re-provisions as a new owner in a new business group. Effectively changing the owner and moving the object from one BG to another BG using the management-method vs the self-service-method (the latter as pizzle85 did).
Again... maybe you care less about Business Groups. Maybe you would prefer self-service. It is the capability of moving a custom resource inventory representation that matters.
Here is an example of the REST call to run the "Take Ownership" action. I have a script before this that pulls in all the variables for the "Resource" I am targeting (from the BusinessGroup object ID), the action I am running (Take Ownership ID), the business group Ref and Label) and some of the properties I need for the Take Ownership action like bgName... but those are actually not necessary. (all of the "entries" are what is required per the Take Ownership request... if that request didn't require any inputs, there would be no entries... it is the top change of subtenant that allows for the BG move)
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System.log("resourceActionRef: " + resourceActionRef);
System.log("targetRef: " + targetRef);
System.log("targetLabel: " + targetLabel);
System.log("bgName: " + bgName);
var payload ={
"@type":"ResourceActionRequest",
"resourceRef":{"id":resourceRef},
"resourceActionRef":{"id":resourceActionRef},
"organization":{"tenantRef":"vsphere.local","tenantLabel":"vsphere.local","subtenantRef":targetRef,"subtenantLabel":targetLabel},
"state":"SUBMITTED",
"requestNumber":0,
"requestData":
{"entries":[
{"key": "provider-rYouSure","value":{"type":"boolean","value":"true"}},
{"key": "provider-bgName","value": {"type": "string","value":bgName}}]}
payload = System.getModule("org.dojotoolkit.dojo.json").serialize(payload);
System.log(payload);
Server.log(payload);
var catalogRest = cafeHost.createRestClient(vCACCAFEServicesEnum.CATALOG_SERVICE);
var response = catalogRest.post("consumer/requests",payload);
Best of luck in your Automation Efforts!
Sean

Turns out... it is likely not required as part of the request data.

How to create a new security group and assignments of rigths?

Hi,
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Is there any place that I can read or view examples on how the setup can be done? I would like to have it in the way that everyone has their personal user account and use this to logon the administration-web page instead of an account that everyone uses.
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Carl-Marius

why do you need to create a new business group? To implement HR? If so, linking a HR responsibility to your user, is one of the few steps to go anyway.
How you did it on the test environment?
Why not link a hr resp to your user temporarily, and disable it later.
I'm always afraid to answer this kind of questions, since the real requirement is not described.

Multiple Business Groups setup

Hi experts
I am looking for an example for setting up multiple BG's (word document, ppt).
Thanks in advance

Please let us know if you are facing any particular problem. Setting up multiple business groups is similar to setting up Single business group.
If you have created a new business group in your instance, you will already have two business groups
1. Setup Business Group
2. Your own business group.
So you are already in a multiple business group scenario in your instance.
Create different security profiles for each business group.
The HR: Business Group profile has to be set at the responsibility level for each responsibility.
Hope this helps.
-Debojyoty

Single business group Vs. multiple business groups

Hi,
I have a case where the user wants to implement Oracle HRMS (Core HR, Payroll, Self Service) in 4 countries. All countries have common procedures but there is some procedures like end of service, Taxation differ from country to another.
There is some employees have managers in different country. How this will handle in the self service?
Should I choose a single business group or go with the multiple business groups.

HI
If you are going live with one BG and latter you need to convert to a multi Business Group then you need to migrate these data in the current BG to the new BG. this is similar to the Shared HR to Full HR conversion Project
The thing to be noted if you are live with one BG and trying to convert to Multi BG
Before you run the Legislation patches for the new BG, you need to create the New Business and complete the Data migration to the new business group and latter you Run the New Legislation patch which will help you reduce the work
Also you should take care of the Audit, when you migrate the employee to the new BG then the Old records has to be maintained for the Audit
Also The Legal Entity, Operating Unit and the Inv Org has to be aligned to the New BG
Since you are implementing now you think of going multi BG now itself..If you need to build the New BG after go live.. you need to come up with solution design Doc and it will be a separate project
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Ramesh Kumar S

Business group decision

My company has been divided in to two parts as of 2010.
Now i am suppose to create the same setups for the separated company as the cost for purchasing the software was shared.
So are we suppose to do the setups again on different business group. what about the payroll part are we suppose to do all the setups again for the new business group?
plz help...!

Hi
It didnt work?
define a new business group
still unable to decide what to do.
Just Do It

Business group

Hi,
Cany any one tell me what acutally is a business group in HRMS module.How to create new business group.
Kindly suggest me how to implement simple HRMS module.
Thanks,
Mannu

Dear Mannu
Oracle Define the Business Group as a Complete Set of HR data for operations and processing.
By default we get one BG with ORacle Apps. If you want to have a Business Group of your own then you need to set up your own BG.
Go through the Implementation Guide of any Legislation for more details and clear steps of implementing HRMS.
Regards
Srujana

Hiding some fields in the Business Group Info

Hi All
I want to hide the Minimum Working Age and Maximum Working Age from the Business Group Info while defining a new business group.
I tried form personalizations but not able to find the text item related to this neither I am able to find any attributes related to these items.
I tried to check the attributes of the DFF Additional Organization Information without any success.
What are fields assoicated with these items and how can i hide these items?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Regards
Rahman

You are not supposed to unfreeze and modify any of the segments here. You just need to get the column names where minimum and maximum working hours are stored. Get the column names from here and then go to the Organization screen. Here create a personalization and user these column names to hide the data by setting up their property 'CONCEAL_DATA' to be true.

2 business group and 2 position flexfield structure

Dear Group
i create another business group so i have 2 business group now and i create a new position flexfield structure but i can't see it with the new business group.
when i go to the new business group and try to create position the old position flexfield appear not the new one
so i need to know how i make the new position flexfield appear when i go to the new business group
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Essam Essmat

You ll have to change the Business Group Value in System PRofile for that particular responsibility to see it. In one responsibility yu cannot view two business groups.
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