URGENT -NTSC DVD to PAL DVD

Dear Friends
I have a specific question regarding the creation of a
PAL DVD. I am using DVD STudio Pro 1.5 and my editing program is Final Cut 3.0.
Do I need to recreate my (NTSC) video in Final Cut Pro for PAL?
Or can I change it to PAL in DVD Studio Pro?
The reason that I 'm asking is that sometimes my DVDs don't play overseas. This has happened to
me in France as well as Wales.
Thanks so much.
Mary

Hi Mary,
If you need DVD's that ALWAYS play you need to convert your source material to PAL. You also need to create menu's etc. that are the correct size.
However if you just need 80% or 90% compatibility ALL standalone PAL DVD players will play NTSC discs (region coding aside). They output a signal with PAL color space and NTSC frame rate and resolution. Most PAL TV's manufactured since about mid 1990 can play that signal.
Mitch

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x

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1) Best option - only available if you have the source material - Convert source material from PAL to NTSC using the Nattress standards converter.
http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/standardsconversion.htm
or the JES deinterlacer:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html
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http://www.squared5.com/
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Henrik Skak Pedersen wrote:
.. The frame rate is 30 which is a surprise because I recorded it at 24.
no surprise.. the ccd of you device is read-out 24p, but the camera records upsampled in 30i ..
24p on consumer devices is mostly marketing blabla..
in Europe, a 25p more is more interesting..
you have a NTSC device. full stop.
in iDVD, set prefs to 25fps (=PAL), relaunch iDVD, import iM project..
so, you record in 24p, got 30i on tape, anc convert again in 25i (=PAL) ... happy landing..
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I have a couple of .avi files, some are in PAL and others in NTSC, I wanna make a DVD in NTSC mode, How can I convert the files?

Hi
This is not easy and You need other programs to do this.
.avi.
You can use MPEG-Streamclip to convert the AVI files so that QuickTime can play them
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*PAL to NTSC or other way*
A. Commersial DVDs - No Not at all - Not even legal to discuss.
B. Home made DVDs (without copy protection)
NTSC ---> PAL.
• Most often not necessary - Most stand alone PAL-DVD players playback NTSC
(if TV is old in BL/W)
PAL ---> NTSC.
• If played on Mac - not necessary AT ALL
• If on NTSC-DVD-player - CONVERSION IS NEEDED - nearly no Stand alone NTSC-DVD-players
playback PAL at all.
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• Set up an NTSC project (29.97fps or 30) in iDVD and import then burn
I burn to
• Verbatim DVD-R
• Set down burn speed in iDVD to x1 or x4 recommended by many
• Secure a minimum of 25Gb free space on internal boot hard disk before burning (IMPORTANT)
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