[urgent]Planned Order generated before Purchase Order

hello to all,
Good day.
I currently have an issue with Planned order being generated before a Purchase Order.This is visible via MD04. Can you explain why this is happening? Normally the Planned Order should be generated after a Purchase Order.
Thanks.

Hi Vishal,
I think you did not get my point.
There was a PO created today - this PO will be on January 2008 (example). Then after the MRP runs, a planned order was created having to be executed on December of 2007. How is this possible? And into MD04, I can see Exception number 30 for the Planned Order entry.
Thanks.

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