Usage of Sampling Procedure with Inspection Points

Hi Experts,
Does any one have an idea whether we can use sampling procedure with free inspection points apart from In-Process Quality Inspection (Inspection Type 03)?
Thanks in Advance,
Arun
Edited by: Arun Mann on Dec 11, 2008 11:11 AM

hi
check the links canhelp you
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/b5/c4db38a91b11d1bd610000e829fdb3/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/2d/350c26448c11d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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my business process study reveels the following scenario
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i given paddy to the miller as a subcontarcting
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ie while processing from paddy to rice i will made timely inspection points and want to capture the result
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For my proposal you use 04 inspection lot with early creation of the inspection lot.
Create an inspection plan with the proper usage for inspection type 04.
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Create and release your order. You should find an 04 inspection lot for it.
Select the lot, most work list will give a pop-up showing the two operations. Double click on the first one. Then you should get a pop-up asking for the inspection point identification. Enter in what ever you've set it up to require.
Record the results. Repeat previous step as often as you need to.
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i need to do goods receipt insection with inspection points
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Hi guys,
i have a case i tried on IDES and i need an explanation for it if you can.
@ the beginning we have an in-process inspection with inspection points and non-destructive MICs, the interval of 10 mins (of the inspection point) generated 3 inspections, and my sampling procedure led to a sample size of 1 PC, in the inspection lot display the sample size is "1", which is normal and i understand this.
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we will change one of the MICs and make it destructive. Now we have our 3 inspections. The normal logic says that I'm having 3 inspections and there is on of the MICs DESTRUCTIVE, therefore I'm must get 3 samples, one for each inspection, which means that when we check the sample size in the inspection lot we must get a size of 3, but when i tried this i got a size of 1 again....and this is not logical because my sample will be destructed in the first inspection so how can I carry on the remaining 2 inspections ???
so i need to know how come I'm getting a size of 1 and is that right or wrong ???
i hope i made it clear and wish you can help
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Hi Amol,
i'm sorry i don't understand what do you mean by operation confirmation quality ???
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Discussion: The usage of Inspection Points

Hi Experts,
Talking about the INSPECTION POINTS, what kind of usage could it be ?
In some occasions, it can be used as an sign that distinguish each delivery from the production line to the QM dept.
How about any other way to use it?

An inspection point is an identifiable record of inspection results that is assigned to a work or inspection operation. Several inspection points can be assigned to an inspection operation.
With inspection points, you can have several inspections and can record multiple sets of characteristic results for an operation.
Inspection Points for Inspections During Production
If you inspect during production using routings, rate routings or master recipes and you want to record inspection results in specific intervals, choose the inspection point type Free inspection points in production. You can define your own field combinations for this inspection type in Customizing.
Inspection Points in Goods Receipt
If you carry out goods receipt inspections with inspection points, choose the inspection point type Free inspection points in production. You can create your own field combinations for this inspection type in Customizing.
Inspection Points in Plant Maintenance
If you carry out calibration inspections and want to record inspection results for equipment or functional locations, choose the inspection point type for Equipment or Functional location. You can create your own field combinations for these inspection types in Customizing. However, the field Equipment or Functional location must exist in the field combination.
Inspection Points in Sample Management
If you use the sample management functions in a goods receipt inspection, or inspection during production with planned physical samples, each sample number is uniquely identified by an inspection point. Choose the inspection point type Physical sample. You can create your own field combinations for this inspection type in Customizing. However, the field Sample must exist in the field combination.

Sample management with in-process inspection

i need to know why must we assign inspection points when we use sample management in an in-process inspection ?

Hi,
[Kindly refer the link herewith|Inspection point] wherein the importance of inspection point is mentioned.
In simple words, inspection point determines what system should do to proceed the inspection.
I mean if you will enter 100 (STD SAP), system will plan the inspection, UD , Quality score procedure etc etc according to the freely defined inspection points.
Now say if you enter 200 (STD SAP) there, then system will go in the direction of Samples, means will generate Physical Sample (Numbers), Samples size, will fetch these data to UD and stock posting screen also, then calculate the Quality score, etc etc.
If you will enter it time based inspection point then system will drive the entire inspection lot accordingly.
Now these is the straight and written explanation to your answer.
Means If there is inspection point as 200--->there will be need of SDP, Sampling procedure, etc
But in same manner it is applicable in reverse order also, i.e. If you wanna go with SDP,Sampling procedure (SAMPLE Mgmt) then,inspection point there must be maintained accordingly.
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I have to map the following scenario. Please advise the config & master data.
1) My sample size should change if my acceptance & rejecetion level changes.
2) If rejection increases then the sample size in the next lot should increase & the vice versa.
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Hello Sir,
Thanks for your valuable reply. I have progressed on this. I need some more help.
Let us park DMR for a while. DMR is working fine. But I have some issues in results recording.
Let us only work only with sampling procedure with sampling scheme.
I have taken one inspection characteristic. It is quantitavie characteristic. It has lower limit as 10% & upper limit as 15%.
what I have done
1)
I have created one sampling scheme = ABC
Valuation parameter = variable inspection by S method
sampling table = severity/AQL
For normal inpsection (4) I have taken AQL as 2.
Lot size = 100
Sample size = 15
K-Factor = 3
2)
I created one sampling procedure = XYZ
Sampling type = Use sampling scheme
Valuation mode = Variable inpscetion S - Method (two limits)
without inpsection points
assigned sampling scheme = ABC
No multiple samples
Inspection severity 4
AQL value 2.000
3)
I assigned the sampling procedure in the plan with the characteristic.
4)
I did GR for 100 & sample of 15 generated.
why I have done
1)
In sampling scheme
valuation parameter = variable inspection by S method (because my characteristic is quantitative)
2)
In sampling procedure
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My issues:
1) Is my settings for a quantitative characteristic with lower & upper limit correct?
2) During results recording system is asking to enter StdDev. What is standard deviation?
3) How characteristic is accepted & rejected? I am not getting any pop up to select accept or reject?
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Pop-up screen does not appear for inspection point- In-process inspection

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Release the samples in QPR4.
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Reg: Sampling procedure .

Dear friends,
Currently we are implementing QM for process industry.
I need your valuable inputs on Sampling procedure. what exactly meant by sampling procedure.
How to configure for sampling procedure.
Thanks in Advance.

You acn get many threads & Input if you go through the sdn but I will try to explaain you & give you some input for sampling procedure for process industry............
Sampling procedure simply means how samples are going to determine the a char & a Inspction lot.......
sampling procedure has sampling type like "percentage ,100% ,fixed sampling or with sampling procedure......which has valuation type like manual ,attribute or variable depending upon the mic used.
In Process industry sampling procedure can be used with Inspection point or without inspection points.
QPV1 is t code for sampling procedure. Mianly customization related to sampling procedure is by default available in SAP QM.
Explore SAP help &
Also refer :
Re: Sampling Procedure
Assign the sampling procedure aginst each MIC & chek using some manual inspection lot in QA01 to see the effect of sampling ype & valuation type.........

100% Sampling Procedure is not functioning for Prod. Order - Insp.Type:03

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We have a number of material as SPARE PARTS.
We are creating Production Order for these Spare Parts.
Inspection Type 03 is used for it.
Customization -> Define Default Values for Inspection Type
Sample  100 % Inspection Check Box is activated
Skips Allowed Check Box is activated.
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QM View
Inspection Type 03 is assigned
100 % Inspection Check box is activated (By Customization Setting)
Skips Allowed Check Box is activated (By Customization Setting)
Routing is created for this material .
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The result recording screen the u201CINSPECT FIELD  SOLLSTPUMF IS 1 ONLY.
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I am able to enter the result for the specified MIC 80 times.
 It is working fine for manual Insp. Type  89.
With Best Regards,
Raghu Sharma

Hi Rajaram,
Thanks for your prompt reply.
The issue is solved.
This is the requirement of Inprocess Inspection.
I am assigning the MIC in Routing.
Hence I need the Inspection lot as soon as Production Order is released.
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I have deactivated the 100% Inspection Check Box.
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With Best Regards,
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QM Inspection Points

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I require that inspection points should be created automatically for inspection lots when i view QA32
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Have have to assigned inspection characteristics in routing that will be your in process inspection
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Inspection Point table

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QAMV Characteristic specifications for inspection processing
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No Sampling Procedures in In-Process Quality Inspection (origin 03, insp. points 100)

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I am facing a problem while attaching master inspection characteristics etc. in a master recipe (C202). I first specify inspection points as 100 in the recipe header (quality data section) and then I go to the operations section, select a phase and go into the area where I can attach MICs, methods and procedures. Now, no matter what kind of MICs I add there ( ones that require a sampling procedure, of course, as it is my need) it does not let me browse (F4) on the mandatory sampling procedure field. I have created all kinds of sampling procedures (freely defined inspection points, without inspection points, manual valuation, spc, fixed, 100% - all combinations) but the mandatory sampling procedure field does not let me browse for sampling procedures. If I directly type a name, it says that the procedure is not suitable for inspection points (100 that I defined) despite the sampling procedure being a freely defined inspection points one or any other. This is only in the case of inspection points/in-process/master recipe. otherwise normal GR usage 5 plans are working fine. Any help? It's urgent. Thank you!
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